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Would you like to see OF-40 ingame?

  1. Yes (8 votes [72.73%])

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  2. No (3 votes [27.27%])

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Draco90 #1 Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:22 AM

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Hi all, 

regarding the italian line (which is absolutely fabulous), most people that searched about italian tank post-war history, nows that was developed a modified Leopard 1 (by OTO-Melara), known as OF-40, named after OTO-Melara FIAT (companies that developed the project and built the tank) 40 tons (weight empty).

I am curious if there is some chance to see the OF-40 ingame, like a split Tier X, a reward of some sort, or a Tier VIII prem. Just not willing to see some "historical accuracy" just love the model and the idea of a Leopard 1 with improved armor (specially in the turret).

 

What do you think?

 



Oldewolfe #2 Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:29 AM

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Well, it's essentially a Leopard I, I wouldn't throw it Out of my Garage.... 

 

I have the Entire Line Conpletes as is, and MOST of them still in my Garage minus the Tier 2 Medium, the Tier 5 P43, and the Tier 6 P43 Bis...      Some still in need of Crews, but the P26/40, Pantera, Standard B, and the Prog's see regular Use, occasionally I throw my Standard B Crew into the P43 Ter and just Drive it....

 

But I'd definately not Complain....      lol



DuncaN_101 #3 Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:38 AM

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In all fairness... Don't really care. Sorry.

It looks like a copy paste really and let's face it we got enough of that already.

Draco90 #4 Posted 09 April 2019 - 10:58 AM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 09 April 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

In all fairness... Don't really care. Sorry.

It looks like a copy paste really and let's face it we got enough of that already.

 

I like your honesty, i was just looking what other ppl think about it. 
Yes its really true that many tanks are kind of doubled because of copypasting, but i have in mind the M48A5 Patton / M60 situation. And they are of the same nation. (Also, kind a same thing with VK-K and Pz VII, more or less same model, different gun, same nation again). I am aware of the differences of the tanks i brought as example, so i will not dig in it (and it's not needed to replay to those). Nevertheless i would be interested if they will put the OF-40 as reward tank: Leo variant (or copycat if you prefer) but italian. Also, considered that Italian line has an autoreloader, could be possible to make the OF-40 with a "standard" gun for variety (still better than M48-M60 situation IMHO). 

Balc0ra #5 Posted 09 April 2019 - 11:43 AM

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It entered service way outside the focus era for this game. Even the design work started right outside it. As early 70 is the lastest WG goes for. 81 is a bit late.

 

Then again... going by the info I found. It was not even used by the Italians. UAN was the only nation to order any "36" and used it for a brief time before going for Heavy IFV.



Draco90 #6 Posted 09 April 2019 - 12:41 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 09 April 2019 - 11:43 AM, said:

It entered service way outside the focus era for this game. Even the design work started right outside it. As early 70 is the lastest WG goes for. 81 is a bit late.

 

Then again... going by the info I found. It was not even used by the Italians. UAN was the only nation to order any "36" and used it for a brief time before going for Heavy IFV.

 

Yea that is all correct (actually UAN ordered 18, than OF-40 was upgraded and was ordered other 18 plus an update on the previous 18. So yea, 36 overall :)

The time window is also correct. But. Let me defend my points (side note: nothing of this is usefull for asking the OF-40 to being added, but i like to talk with you guys about tanks and brainstorm about possible implementations):
1) the design is the same as the Leo, (italians was late in their development). Even if i have to note that the turret is heavily modified, the hull is pretty much the same as Leo. Also, we can see ingame vehicles like the newly added T95/FV4001 Chieftain which, even if lands in time window, has a very modern design (and as all of us can note, is pretty powerfull).

2) Italians havent used the tank indeed, but they actually designed and produced it. It sounds pretty italian in my mind :D (a little bit stretchy excuse i know).

3) All my point, behind historical reasons, is having a tank that differs from the M40 mod 65 in term of model and gameplay, and still is "enough" italian. So my  suggestion is a modified Leopard 1 (following the OF-40 design) with a very strong front turret and a single shot 105 gun. Think a Centurion AX but sleeker.

 

These are some stats i would suggest (in brackets comparison with Cent and Leo) all base data:
105 mm gun with 390 dmg and like 2800 dpm-ish (C: 2837 L:2800) 268 standard pen (shell velocity and capacity like Leo).
1.90 aimtime (C: 2.01 L:1.82), 0.30 dispersion (C:0.31 L:0.29) (other dispersion 0.02 better than Leo, except turret).

Depression -9, elevation 20

Mobility: 60 km/h (C:53 L:65), power/weight 20 hp/t (C:18.91, L: 20.75) (terrain resistence ilke Leo)

Hull armor: 70/35/25 same as Leo, turret armor: 250/100/60 (C: 254/152/95 L: 52/0/60): very strong front, other very weak, in between Centurion and Leo, so both other tanks retains their strength.

Viewrange: 410, Firechance: 10%

 

I think these stats would be pretty nice, putting the OF-40 in between CentAX and Leo: not as strong as Cent, not as "sniper" as Leo.

 



Balc0ra #7 Posted 09 April 2019 - 01:25 PM

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I see your points. And you could give it the L7 gun, make the armor and speed balance to make it on pair with the AMX 30 and Leo etc. As in the same role. Or slower with a stronger turret like the AX. Or even give it a 90mm and make it similar to the FV4202 as a tier 8 premium.

 

But at the end of the day I suspect WG's research department has enough "odd" Italians to use that fits their era more. And I doubt they start to use 80's tanks atm. But later? Who knows. They have joked around with tier 11 tanks several times. But one day it might not be a joke and it might fit in as a separate mode and a higher time era vs the tier X's we have now. 



Draco90 #8 Posted 09 April 2019 - 01:39 PM

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I agree. But nothing change the fact i'd love to see this model ingame :D

Thanks for the chitchat anyway.


Edited by Draco90, 09 April 2019 - 01:39 PM.





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