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vuque #1 Posted 10 April 2019 - 02:04 PM

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Please leave your feedback on New WoT Premium Account for Public Test 1.5, and remember to remain on-topic and constructive. 

 

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Weak_man #2 Posted 11 April 2019 - 07:15 PM

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- that 5 times option for xp is nice

- 10 % more credits is also nice

- daily mission for 25 bonds is nice (all people is complaining about pay to win for this, but is more easy to make 25 bonds in tier 10 battles than in this mission), it may take between 5 to 15 battles to do this mission as it is

  now on test server. This mission will give to an player that play 365 days/ year x 25 bonds = 9125 bonds. 

- option to block 2 maps also nice (in time if some  maps is bloked by more than 20% of the players should be completly removed), this will improove general game for all players

- if wg will give all players option to block 1 arty and premium palyers option to block 2 this would be perfect

 

All the changes for new premium account are good



Sharp1903 #3 Posted 11 April 2019 - 07:24 PM

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*edited*  

Edited by Jahpero, 14 April 2019 - 10:53 AM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to not being constructive.


kaneloon #4 Posted 11 April 2019 - 07:40 PM

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The moment you remember that you came to Wot because WoW(arcraft) was expensive ...

SlyMeerkat #5 Posted 11 April 2019 - 09:58 PM

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Nice and interesting changes here, looks good :)

Koz23 #6 Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:27 PM

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I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

 

Bonds should not be obtainable by paying.



jack_timber #7 Posted 11 April 2019 - 10:47 PM

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New premium account is very nice but where can you see your Reserve Stock accumulated total?

Weak_man #8 Posted 12 April 2019 - 05:19 AM

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View PostKoz23, on 11 April 2019 - 11:27 PM, said:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

 

Bonds should not be obtainable by paying.

 

You pay only to can access the 3 stages mission but still need to play 5-15 games or more/day just to do the missions.

If someone for example make daily missions 200 times/ year gets 200x25 = 5000 bonds wich is 1 improoved equipment. For this he should play from 100 to 300 hours. Probably is more easy to get 25 bonds in tier x games.



Beoger #9 Posted 12 April 2019 - 08:26 AM

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View PostWeak_man, on 12 April 2019 - 05:19 AM, said:

 

You pay only to can access the 3 stages mission but still need to play 5-15 games or more/day just to do the missions.

If someone for example make daily missions 200 times/ year gets 200x25 = 5000 bonds wich is 1 improoved equipment. For this he should play from 100 to 300 hours. Probably is more easy to get 25 bonds in tier x games.

 

You seem to forget something important here, so let me remind you of some things...
1) Not everybody has a Tier X yet. I've been playing for close to a year now, and pretty regularly, too. Only have one Tier 9 so far and I am still quite a bit away from my first Tier X.
2) Tier X is costly unless you have a premium account. Repairs and ammo will set you back a lot of credits unless you are an exceptional player and/or have a premium account.
3) These missions need hardly any effort. 1st mission: "Win a round", 2nd mission: "Be among the top 5 players"; 3rd mission: "Destroy 5 tanks". So the difficulty could be summed up as "Thanks for showing up".

4) These missions can be completed in all of the 616 tanks. You could even trundle around in your LoL-Traktor and grind bonds like a boss. These missions can be done without even thinking about it - when I play WoT, 5-15 rounds doesn't sound unrealistic to me for one session. 

5) You can grind bonds in your Tier X *AND* get the mission reward bonds. It's not an either/or situation. These bonds come on top of what you earn in Tier X as long as you have a premium account.

 

If that isn't pay to win, I don't know what is. In my 11months of playing WoT I have accumulated 2688 bonds from achievements and events. With these new Premium Missions I could have - according to your estimate - gotten an easy 5,000 more bonds on top of that?! Almost double of what I have gotten by hard work?! By now, I would have had my first improved equipment and still more than enough bonds to spare for buying 6th sense or other conveniences... This would have been a tremendous advantage across the board.


Edited by Beoger, 12 April 2019 - 08:41 AM.


Objec7 #10 Posted 12 April 2019 - 11:26 AM

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Pay to exclude additional map(win).

kuzia6104 #11 Posted 12 April 2019 - 12:50 PM

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View Postkaneloon, on 11 April 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

The moment you remember that you came to Wot because WoW(arcraft) was expensive ...

 

Yes, u are right. Premium already was OP, ok WG added 2nd map block, don't see problem in here. But giving extra Bonds, and these extra 10% is bit too much. It's already became Pay to Win and Frontline - if u got Progetto u will go to top 10 players too easy (as the standard autoloaders are compared to him pure crap).

OtherPlans #12 Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:01 PM

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Possibility to ban one additional map is a bit too much. Please consider removing this and giving me something else, preferably something cosmetic, not a gameplay advantage.

 

Also, premium missions for bonds while Improved Equipment still exists is basically selling Bonds for money, please remove this perk from WoT Prem account owners.



Beoger #13 Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:29 PM

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View Postkuzia6104, on 12 April 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

 

Yes, u are right. Premium already was OP, [...] But giving extra Bonds, and these extra 10% is bit too much.

Yeah, let's make a calculation.
 The old Premium gave you:

  • +50% EP
  • +50% Crew EP
  • +50% Credits


New Premium gives you:

  • +50% EP
  • +50% Crew EP
  • +50% Credits
  • 5 á 3xEP bonus that can stack with the daily double to give a 5xEP bonus
  • 10% credits bonus in piggy bank
  • 25 bonds a day for doing three easy missions
  • one more map to exclude
  • 15%credit bonus for playing platoons

 

So let's see if we can make a calculation here (excluding daily doubles, premium vehicles and the new platoon bonus):
a) Regular player earns 500EP and 10,000credits in a game and has to pay 5,000credits for repair
= 500EP and 5,000credits
after let's say 20 matches he has 10,000EP and 100,000credits


b) Old Premium player earns 500+50%=750EP and 10,000+50%=15,000credits and has to pay 5,000credits for repair
= 750EP and 10,000credits
after 20 matches he has 15,000EP and 200,000credits

 

c) New Premium player earns (500+50%)*3=2250EP and 10,000+50%=15,000credits and has to pay 5,000credits for repair
2250EP and 10,000credits (+ 1,500credits in the piggy bank)
after 20 matches (using all of his 5 3xEP bonuses) he has 22,500EP and 200,000credits; plus 20,000credits in the bank and 25bonds

 

So in this example it is an added bonus of 50%EP and 10%credits over the old Premium and 25bonds to boot. An this is not even counting the possibility of stacking the 3xEP with the daily double or the 15%credit bonus for playing in a platoon. Now look at the free2play player and you see that with the new Premium you get more than double his EP and more than double his credits; plus the 25bonds.

Was this really neccessary?! Wasn't the old Premium enough of a boost to the regular grind in general and the harder grinds like crewEP in particular?! And now you also get bonds?! I really do feel cheated when you can make 3-4times the amount of bonds just by throwing money at the game.


Edited by Beoger, 12 April 2019 - 02:33 PM.


none666 #14 Posted 12 April 2019 - 02:55 PM

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I like everything except ability to change blocked maps every 4 hours. This should be an option to block map player really doesnt like, if you can block new map every 4 hours, people will start exploiting it and just blocking maps according to vehicle type they are planing to play the most. If its something like 1 week, people will block maps they actually hate not bad maps for heavies, lights or arties.

Also I hope it wont be 3 arty game every time on maps like prokorovka 



Tigertjheu #15 Posted 12 April 2019 - 10:12 PM

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I love it!

And i love the get the change to get extra bonds.

I earned so far 3000 bonds, and definitely want to get a change to get more.


Edited by Tigertjheu, 12 April 2019 - 11:44 PM.


NotRichou #16 Posted 13 April 2019 - 11:30 AM

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View PostBeoger, on 12 April 2019 - 02:29 PM, said:

 I really do feel cheated when you can make 3-4times the amount of bonds just by throwing money at the game.

why? how does it impact you when i have the ability to get more out of my time by spending money ?

 

theres no "cheating" here its simply wargaming adding more incentives to buy premium and if the upgraded premium is so good that you feel cheated for not buying it they are doing it "right" (from a marketing point of view) 

 

personally i like the changes to premium ,they are a huge quality of life increase for me and i will keep buying it because the advantages of premium are alreaady well worth the 10 bucks i pay every month :P



KanonenVogel19 #17 Posted 13 April 2019 - 12:47 PM

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It's very good that you make premium accounts more attractive. This is a way better approach of making money (which you need to since you're a company), than to add overpowered premium tanks. But, the daily missions are a bit P2W when it comes to the bonds. I know, it's minimal, but it's still about the principle, which you should try to eliminate at all cost.

 

In my opinion you should remove the rewards that can give players a direct battle advantage and instead focus the rewards on progression or customization, such as credits, xp, free xp, blueprints, personal reserves, and even things like tank paint etc.

 

Also, if you want to make premium accounts even more attractive, there's some other things you can add:

 

- Small permanent discounts on tanks, equipment, retraining etc.

- Shorter map blacklist cooldown, for example, 3 hours instead of 4 hours.

- Customizable garage: different locations, change parked tanks in background, set type/nationality of people in garage, decorations, objects, effects etc.

- Earlier access to new premium and/or regular tanks, for example a few days earlier with premium account.

- Customizable service record etc.



NotRichou #18 Posted 13 April 2019 - 12:56 PM

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View PostKanonenVogel19, on 13 April 2019 - 12:47 PM, said:

 

- Earlier access to new premium and/or regular tanks, for example a few days earlier with premium account.

 

thats already a thing for new premium tanks in the store 



haroken #19 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:49 PM

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the new WOT account is still super ... just keep going :-)
- certainly motivation to buy this account


viburn_marnion #20 Posted 13 April 2019 - 07:50 PM

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WG: We will never sell bonds for money ... but if you give us money we will give you some extra bonds.





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