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AStandardGamer #1 Posted 13 April 2019 - 01:44 PM

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I have had 19 universal fragments and probably received about 25 or 30 merits yet I cannot seem to unlock any national ones.

I mean if I need like  12 universal to 4 national for a tier 10 blueprint then I am receiving way more than enough universal yet I will literally never get enough national because more likely than not it will spread it out across the nations right?

So when i do get 4 they could likely be in 4 different nations and given the 19:0 ratio at current then I could have like 80 universal before I have a chance of having enough national and to have enough of a single nation it might be like 200 universal???

Send help lemming very lost


Edited by AStandardGamer, 13 April 2019 - 02:11 PM.


RinTin_NL #2 Posted 13 April 2019 - 01:59 PM

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I got only one national blueprint, and it took me a few hundred games to get it!  :trollface:

 

Or do we have to buy them soon? :coin:  #walledclosed


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speedphlux #3 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:03 PM

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I actually gotten quite a few of them. Only worry for me is the low tier junk it gives me blueprints for.

AStandardGamer #4 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:11 PM

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View Postspeedphlux, on 13 April 2019 - 02:03 PM, said:

I actually gotten quite a few of them. Only worry for me is the low tier junk it gives me blueprints for.

 

How many is quite a few and whats the ratio ur getting them at? 

You managed to get enough to utilise them?

 



speedphlux #5 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:18 PM

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Spoiler

I've already used ... around 24-26 nation blueprints and a lot more universal ones.

AStandardGamer #6 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:25 PM

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View Postspeedphlux, on 13 April 2019 - 02:18 PM, said:

Spoiler

I've already used ... around 24-26 nation blueprints and a lot more universal ones.

 

How far are you in the tech trees? I have literally gotten no nationals :(

speedphlux #7 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:37 PM

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Well, I only have the Tier X German Light to unlock and I'll have them all. On the Soviet side, I've got the 2x TDs and SPG at Tier X to unlock. Oh, and the 705 & 705A as well. Unfortunately, I'm getting low Tier blueprints for the low tier arties. With the USA, I have T30, E3, E4 and T92 left to unlock. For France, I have Tier VIII, IX and X wheeled to unlock, IX and X arties, IX and X non-autoloading Heavies and the Foch B left. Brittan still needs the Conway and FV 4005 plus the Tier IX and X arties. China only needs Tier X light tank and Tier IX and X TDs. Czech - I'm done with. Polish I'm at Tier VIII at the moment (pretty painful grind). Swedish tree is all the way up to Tier IX, so I only have 2 tanks to unlock at the moment. Italians I'm at Tier VIII with. With Japan, I've just started the Heavies and I'm at Tier VI with it, but the Mediums are long time unlocked. Don't know if I'm forgetting any tech tree/nation.

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BR33K1_PAWAH #8 Posted 13 April 2019 - 02:50 PM

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It's a matter of luck and amount of researched vehicles. The more tonks you already researched for a current nation - the higher are chances of getting it's national blueprint.

Orkbert #9 Posted 13 April 2019 - 03:23 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 13 April 2019 - 02:50 PM, said:

It's a matter of luck and amount of researched vehicles. The more tonks you already researched for a current nation - the higher are chances of getting it's national blueprint.

 

Not necessarily. I mostly play German tanks (about 2/3 of all my battles) but so far I got a French, a British and a Russian national blueprint.

BR33K1_PAWAH #10 Posted 13 April 2019 - 03:35 PM

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View PostOrkbert, on 13 April 2019 - 05:23 PM, said:

 

Not necessarily. I mostly play German tanks (about 2/3 of all my battles) but so far I got a French, a British and a Russian national blueprint.

 

RNGesus is displeased with you, that's all.

MeNoobTank #11 Posted 13 April 2019 - 03:42 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 13 April 2019 - 02:50 PM, said:

It's a matter of luck and amount of researched vehicles. The more tonks you already researched for a current nation - the higher are chances of getting it's national blueprint.

 

That is not true. I think is actually in the other way around, and it will even make more sense. I mostly get british BP and I do not own even 1 british tank, not even the tier 1 one. I already have like atleast 3 BPs for every high tier Brit tank.

 

I think they drop mostly on lines you do not have so that you will want to go grind them to use your xp discount, in this game is a win for WG.



BR33K1_PAWAH #12 Posted 13 April 2019 - 03:49 PM

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View PostMeNoobTank, on 13 April 2019 - 05:42 PM, said:

 

That is not true. I think is actually in the other way around, and it will even make more sense. I mostly get british BP and I do not own even 1 british tank, not even the tier 1 one. I already have like atleast 3 BPs for every high tier Brit tank.

 

I think they drop mostly on lines you do not have so that you will want to go grind them to use your xp discount, in this game is a win for WG.

 

I was talking about nation universal blueprints, not tank blueprints.

The only way to get national blueprint is to have tanks researched for that nation.



Homer_J #13 Posted 13 April 2019 - 04:03 PM

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View PostAStandardGamer, on 13 April 2019 - 02:11 PM, said:

 

How many is quite a few and whats the ratio ur getting them at? 

You managed to get enough to utilise them?

 

 

I've got just over 30 universal and several national ones.  I think I have 4 for German, two or three for US and a few nations with one.

 

2 is enough for a mid tier fragment, 3 for a tier IX, only tier X needs 4.  I would rather use them on a tier IX I think.

 

Not committing any universal ones until I'm sure where I want to use them.



MeNoobTank #14 Posted 13 April 2019 - 04:27 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 13 April 2019 - 03:49 PM, said:

 

I was talking about nation universal blueprints, not tank blueprints.

The only way to get national blueprint is to have tanks researched for that nation.

 

Oh ok, sorry. I didn't know that. Pretty good to know !

Balc0ra #15 Posted 13 April 2019 - 05:14 PM

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View PostAStandardGamer, on 13 April 2019 - 02:11 PM, said:

 

How many is quite a few and whats the ratio ur getting them at? 

You managed to get enough to utilise them?

 

 

See universal and national are converted from tanks you already have unlocked. So the more researched tansk you have, the bigger the chance of getting one. I got 43 Unviersal and 22 National atm. With Germany at 7, and Franche with 6 to name a few. I only have 20 tanks left to research. And I've gotten a blueprint part for one of them "705A". So more or less every drop I get. I get at least one Universal. But how many you need is ofc dependent on tier. If I get one more German I can get 14% off on a tier X. As he needs 4 national per part. But for the tier 9 wheeled light. I need 3 National. So I can get 14% off on that too if I want. Or save it for the tier X .

 

The universal part benefits those that have unlocked much. The blueprint parts benefits those that don't have unlocked much. Either way, it will take time to get 100% on the one tank you want.

 

 



Homer_J #16 Posted 13 April 2019 - 05:18 PM

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OK, went in game, have 13 national and 31 universal, and about 6 tied to tanks - some of which I will probably never use since they are low tiers I bypassed.

1ucky #17 Posted 13 April 2019 - 09:21 PM

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Maybe it's fair to say that the new blueprint system is designed to give diminishing returns, depending on how many tanks you've unlocked already. Because the more tanks you have the more specific tank blueprints get converted into more universal ones, and those have to be used in great numbers just to get ahead by very little.

 

Long story short, if it seems like the blueprint bonus to anything you want to research is very slight (or if it's buildup is very slow), you see that correctly and it's meant to be that way, I suppose.

 

I'd bet the whole blueprint deal is just there to make the XP grind more visually entertaining, as opposed to just some number of XP going up like we had before. Technically it is a boost but only a very minor one in the overall scheme of things.



the_nebuchadnezzar #18 Posted 13 April 2019 - 10:32 PM

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A good move is to free xp all tanks to tier 4-5, just in case the game with to give u bluprints for a stupid tier 3... I was lucky to get 2 or even 3 blueprints for the same tank: E4, WZ 111-4 or Tortoise. But yeah, national BP are very rare. 

BlackBloodBandit #19 Posted 13 April 2019 - 11:33 PM

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So far I received 23 universal and only 1 for both China and Britain.. You can't make them yourself so the universal seem kinda useless so far. I'm not spending any blueprints for a few 100 xp on a low tier tank.

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I have fully researched all nations except one, where I have 2 tanks left. So far I've got 55 universal fragments and only one national fragment for the nation that I'm still working on.

 

My theory: The chance of getting a blueprint is equal for any tank, researched or not. The same goes for national fragments. It's a catch-up system, and it's not targeting players like me.

 

Players that have several branches that they haven't even started on should research all branches up to at least tier to 3 or 4, which goes quickly anyway. This should balance out the number of universal and national fragments, so that you'll be able to craft more blueprints.






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