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breeeze #21 Posted 19 April 2019 - 01:57 AM

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How BPs are given out:

 

1. Select random tank, likely same chance for every tank in the game

2. If tank isn't researched -> tank BP

3. else if entire nation is researched -> universal BP

4. else -> national or universal BP (probably RNG based)

 

This means the amount of national BPs you get depends on how many tanks of a specific nation you have researched, more tanks researched = more national BP. The chance you'll get a balanced amount of universal and national is near nill.

 

I have 30 tank, 50 universal, 28 national (so actually too many nationals because you need way more universals), 11 of which are US, my fullest of the big tech tree, only 3 German, where I have only a little more than half the tanks researched. Although to be fair, thats still nowhere near enough for a statistically significant result, just an indication so far.



WoT_RU_Doing #22 Posted 19 April 2019 - 02:08 AM

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I'll be interested to see how this goes when 1.5 comes out. I have everything researched right now, and have 94 universal blueprints. So, until we get the Swedish mediums in the game I've no chance of getting a national print.

CenturionA1 #23 Posted 19 April 2019 - 02:33 AM

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This could be very useful for me actually, If I go through the british low tiers and finish everything up to tier 5 I might be able to get out of grid lock with this game and research the caravan.

Dex022 #24 Posted 19 April 2019 - 08:11 AM

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I actually got lucky and got 430U blueprint plus somehow got 4 ussr and made next one for 430U....so i slashed some 40k xp for that grind. :medal:

 

But i agree that nation blueprints are way too rare even for very active players.



Homer_J #25 Posted 19 April 2019 - 09:01 AM

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View PostDex022, on 19 April 2019 - 08:11 AM, said:

 

But i agree that nation blueprints are way too rare even for very active players.

 

I think the balance is only off for those who have researched everything on several or all nations.  It seems like it's worth leaving some low tier irrelevant tank unresearched just so you get the chance to drop a national blueprint which might be some use at some time in the future if another branch is added.

 

For me the ratio seems to be dropping about right but I'm not OCD about researching everything.



BlackBloodBandit #26 Posted 19 April 2019 - 09:32 AM

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I received only 2 national vs 25 universal and with 1 national I can only make useless blueprints for low tier tanks.

DeadLecter #27 Posted 19 April 2019 - 09:34 AM

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I got 93 UBPs and 28 NBPs and I can craft a TX BP for Sweden, France and UK. For other nations I have less than 4 BPs. And I don't have any NBP for Italy, Poland and Czechoslovakia.

tmp #28 Posted 19 April 2019 - 11:11 AM

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I have 68 UBPs and _one_ NBP for France.  If I had to guess how it works from such a small sample:


 

1. High chance to get blueprint for a random tank, if reseached convert directly to UBP.

2. National blueprint for random nation, if all tanks researched convert directly to UBP.


 

I may have been unlucky, but it does not seem like blueprints for researched French tanks convert to french NBPs.

It's possible that playing French tanks increases the chance of getting French tank blueprints, but as long as this would not increase chances for French NBPs much it would not be visible to me.


 



EllemennT #29 Posted 19 April 2019 - 01:36 PM

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Seems like a drop rate for national blueprints vs universal is too low. 

breeeze #30 Posted 19 April 2019 - 02:01 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 19 April 2019 - 09:01 AM, said:

 

I think the balance is only off for those who have researched everything on several or all nations.  It seems like it's worth leaving some low tier irrelevant tank unresearched just so you get the chance to drop a national blueprint which might be some use at some time in the future if another branch is added.

 

For me the ratio seems to be dropping about right but I'm not OCD about researching everything.

 

I didn't even think of that, interesting idea. Although it'll stop working once you get the bps for that low tier tank.

Homer_J #31 Posted 19 April 2019 - 02:05 PM

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View Postbreeeze, on 19 April 2019 - 02:01 PM, said:

 

I didn't even think of that, interesting idea. Although it'll stop working once you get the bps for that low tier tank.

 

Well so far I have one fragment each for two low tier tanks I have no intention of researching.  The upside is I have plenty of national blueprints.

tmp #32 Posted 19 April 2019 - 04:00 PM

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Apropos nothing, you probably do not want to freeXP low tier tanks to get more UBPs.  If the selection probability is flat, you'd only have 0.25% probablilty to get a BP on any particular tank, and UBP is worth less than 2000 xp of research.


 

If the tank costs 5 xp to research you are good to go, though.


 



Sirebellus #33 Posted 20 April 2019 - 11:35 AM

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I've ground every tank line up to T6 at least, only 10 T7 tanks need the grind finished
I have got 24 tank fragments (all useful as I have no lower tiers to grind) 31 Universal pieces, but only 3 National pieces and they are from 3 different nations... which as even T7 tanks need 3 National and 8 Universal per fragment mean I am a long way from any meaningful use of Universal and National pieces...
Tank fragments - 8 of the 24 are for tanks that are next in line to the ones I have so that makes grinds shorter

Homer_J #34 Posted 20 April 2019 - 11:52 AM

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Just to show they do exist.

 

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View PostHomer_J, on 20 April 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

Just to show they do exist.

 

Funny, my screen never looks like that....I just get the rewards received and it doesn't show me a nice picture. I've also never received XP (my biggest rewards so far are a Toolbox and a Camo net).

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tramazi #36 Posted 01 September 2019 - 01:20 PM

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Sooooo I have 30 Czech national fragments, any idea on how to convert them to either universal or another nation; I have a feeling neither option is viable, but asking around incase anyone else knows of a method?

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WoT_RU_Doing #37 Posted 01 September 2019 - 05:14 PM

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View Posttramazi, on 01 September 2019 - 12:20 PM, said:

Sooooo I have 30 Czech national fragments, any idea on how to convert them to either universal or another nation; I have a feeling neither option is viable, but asking around incase anyone else knows of a method?

Yep....keep whinging about it until WG put a mechanism in to change national fragments to universal, and universal to national or something. Personally I'm finding the whole blueprint and fragment set up to be pretty much useless, as I've hundreds of the things, but on the rare occasions I could use them, I don't get enough to do much with them.

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Meanwhile, you're stuck with them until WG introduce something new into the CZ tech tree.



5hell5hock #38 Posted 05 September 2019 - 06:43 PM

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yes another useless addition to the game, give those who have researched most tanks national fragments when they don't need them, but give those starting out universal fragments but no national fragments when it is those players who would benefit from them......well done WG, well done........

SaintMaddenus #39 Posted 06 September 2019 - 11:06 AM

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universal are useless as you can't make anything with them alone.  you need to have the national ones as well. even at a ratio of 8 to 1 you can't do anything with them.  I have received more blueprints since the last update though.

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