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BdW_Marecc #1 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:00 PM

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After a weekend of grinding tanks, I today took a look at the blueprints that dropped. It's still a fairly small sample size, but it occurred to me that most of the blueprints that dropped are pretty much useless. Upon closer inspection, it appeared to me that the majority of the blueprints dropped from tank lines that are somewhat underplayed in the current meta:  

- German medium tanks (Panther and Leopard)

- German artillery wtf

- Chinese TDs

- Russian heavies leading to the KV-4

- US light and heavy tanks

- French TDs

- British medium tanks

- British turretless TDs leading to the Badger

 

So far no Czech, Polish, Italian or Japanese blueprints.

 

That's it. Now I am stuck at the Comet leveling British Mediums so this might even come in handy. But other than that ? There are still a ton of lines I would level before touching any of the lines for which I received blueprints. Which brings me to this speculation: The droprate of the blueprints might not be so random after all. Rather it might have drop chances, with higher dropchances towards vehicles that WG deems "underplayed" in order to steer players towards those lines, meta be damned (those tanks are usually ignored for a reason). 

Your thoughts ?



_PanzerBitterbal_ #2 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:08 PM

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I got blueprint drops from your "missing" list:

Japanese STB-1

Japanese Type 61

Japanese STA-1

Polish 40TP

Italian P43

 

Also a number off other drops but thought it to be good to share some drops you did not get and now seem to think of some conspiracy.

Sorry to say but that conspiracy does not exist. The country's you miss do actually drop.

 


Edited by _PanzerBitterbal_, 15 April 2019 - 03:10 PM.


tajj7 #3 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:09 PM

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View PostBdW_Marecc, on 15 April 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

Your thoughts ?

 

Those are tanks you don't yet have. 

 

The ones I get are for stuff like the T110E3 line, IS4 line, 705A line, multiple arty lines, Swedish TD lines, guess what tanks I don't have......


Edited by tajj7, 15 April 2019 - 03:10 PM.


Dorander #4 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:09 PM

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Given that the meta is always a smaller selection of tanks than the non-meta, getting more blueprints for the non-meta is statistically probable.

 

I did get a Japanese blueprint..... for the tier 2 tank. I actually had to look it up to see what the heck I'd just gotten a BP for. I also got a blueprint for the Object 277 and some other ones that I thought were pretty nice, but with a large amount of tanks unresearched I can't rely on drops. It's random, so of course it's unreliable.



Geno1isme #5 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:09 PM

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Well, obviously the larger techtrees have a better chance to drop blueprints, simply by containing more tanks. So german, russian and US tanks have the highest chance, followed by british, french and chinese tanks. Italy, Poland, Czech, Japan and Sweden combined probably have the same chance for a BP drop than the german or russian techtree alone.

 

Personally I've only got one actual blueprint so far for the EBR 90, everything else was converted into universal or national ones. So can't really make any observations about the spread.



Tom_Deekanarry #6 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:16 PM

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For the Comet just load it with APCR (although the gun never fired that ammo it was APCBC and APDS) once you do that it's ok, firing standard  ammo is just an exercise in futility!

_PanzerBitterbal_ #7 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:36 PM

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View PostTom_Deekanarry, on 15 April 2019 - 03:16 PM, said:

For the Comet just load it with APCR (although the gun never fired that ammo it was APCBC and APDS) once you do that it's ok, firing standard  ammo is just an exercise in futility!

 

This is a thread about blue print drops. Not sure where your reply fits in xd

TungstenHitman #8 Posted 15 April 2019 - 03:48 PM

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I can take my tinfoil hat off. 


Edited by TungstenHitman, 16 April 2019 - 09:23 AM.


Suurpolskija #9 Posted 15 April 2019 - 04:19 PM

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To name a few to prove you wrong: 

 

3x T57 Heavy blueprints

1x 430U blueprint

1x 268v4 blueprint

2x P44 Pantera blueprint 

1x Progetto 65 Blueprint

1x 53TP blueprint

 

Not all of them are "meta tanks" but some sure are. I've been playing  a lot though. 



Balc0ra #10 Posted 15 April 2019 - 04:47 PM

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View PostBdW_Marecc, on 15 April 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:

 

That's it. Now I am stuck at the Comet leveling British Mediums so this might even come in handy. But other than that ? There are still a ton of lines I would level before touching any of the lines for which I received blueprints.

 

So it's not random because you did not get any of the lines you wanted it for? Considering how many tech tree tanks there are. The chance of you getting the one you are grinding for is not that great. As my NA account has gotten mostly on tanks most play vs underplayed. So take that as you want.

 

But then again as I've only got 20 tanks left ot unlock. I've only gotten one print for one of those. The rest have been universal. And not so many nationals for nations I grind focus on atm.



Bordhaw #11 Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:27 PM

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I think I got one, once.... I can't remember.

 

 



vasilinhorulezz #12 Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:35 PM

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MM is not random, RNG is not random, everything is not random,

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, CAN YOU STOP WITH THOSE KIND OF THREADS?

 



BR33K1_PAWAH #13 Posted 15 April 2019 - 06:37 PM

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:facepalm:

BdW_Marecc #14 Posted 16 April 2019 - 07:32 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 15 April 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

 

So it's not random because you did not get any of the lines you wanted it for? Considering how many tech tree tanks there are. The chance of you getting the one you are grinding for is not that great. As my NA account has gotten mostly on tanks most play vs underplayed. So take that as you want.

 

But then again as I've only got 20 tanks left ot unlock. I've only gotten one print for one of those. The rest have been universal. And not so many nationals for nations I grind focus on atm.

 

No I assumed it might not be just random because 90% of the blueprints I received are from not-so-popular tech trees. There are others I didn't grind but you see those tanks a lot, like Russian Mediums or the ever-present IS-7, or japanese Superheavies (doh) or the Bobject 268 v4. Not expecting to receive tier 10 blueprints of either but at least a blueprint from a tank in those tech trees.

I did however say right at the beginning that this was a fairly small sample size I had - which is why I was asking for your experience. Thanks to those who replied constructively and a one-finger salute to the trolls and spammers. :B



ValkyrionX #15 Posted 16 April 2019 - 07:54 AM

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x1 E100

X1 JTIGER

X1 SP1C

X1 VK28

X1 K91

X1 OBJ140

X1 OBJ263

X1 LTG

X1 T25AT

X1 M4A3E8

X1 T82

X1 WOLVERINE

X1 JACKSON

X1 T18

X1 T40

X1 M37

X1 LORR 39

X1 SARL 42 

X1 UE 57

X1 SAU 40

X1 AMX 105AM

X1 SARL 42

X2 CENTURION 1 

X1 CHARIOTEER

X1 AT2

X1 CRUISER 3

X1 TYPE 61

X1 STA2

X1 KE HO

X1 25TP

X1 EMIL 1

 

 

X31 universal fragments 

x2 USA

X2 Japan

X1 France

 

to me, instead, I see that they are quite random

 



eldrak #16 Posted 16 April 2019 - 08:48 AM

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~70 Universal
2 French

1 Lynx 6x6

 

French wheelies is the only line i haven't fully unlocked. To me it seems to be pretty close to what can be expected from a random distribution

The Lynx bp drop took me to within 1k of unlocking it so that's what I did.



TungstenHitman #17 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:25 AM

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Ya I guess they probably are random. I'm currently in the stock stages of my Pantera grind and noticed I have not just 1 but 2 Standard B blueprint frags. That's a lot of reduced xp and pretty damn nice tbh.




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