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Balc0ra #21 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:57 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 16 April 2019 - 12:50 PM, said:

So basically the tank that *SHOULD* be in the tech tree instead of the TVP VTU now comes out as a premium, what a surprise....

 

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You could argue that about the French HT vs the 65t too. But again, if they sold the TVP as a premium. Would that be better? A tank no one would want to buy? You can't even run stock turret and the 88 then that 90% did grinding it. Just like most did the 65t with the stock gun and turret. 

 

View Postbaribal_80, on 16 April 2019 - 12:30 PM, said:

 

You want to kill the underpowered defender. VTU's hurt it a lot anyway. 

 

If they buff it, the Defenders stand no chance.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 16 April 2019 - 11:57 AM, said:

 

But again, if they sold the TVP as a premium. Would that be better? A tank no one would want to buy?

Hence why they sold it as a t6 prem instead....

But seriously, there is nothing stopping them from buffing the VTU while introducing a t8 prem for the line. Could actually help improve sales as a major roadblock in the line could be removed and tempt more people to grind it.



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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 16 April 2019 - 01:06 PM, said:

Hence why they sold it as a t6 prem instead....

But seriously, there is nothing stopping them from buffing the VTU while introducing a t8 prem for the line. Could actually help improve sales as a major roadblock in the line could be removed and tempt more people to grind it.

 

Buff it how? It's a terrible base to start from.  IMO a massive gun depression buff along with better soft stats on the guns for starters. It's not even a good support med fully elite. As I said, most use the stock turret and the 88 for it.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #24 Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:25 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 16 April 2019 - 03:11 PM, said:

Buff it how? It's a terrible base to start from.  IMO a massive gun depression buff along with better soft stats on the guns for starters. It's not even a good support med fully elite. As I said, most use the stock turret and the 88 for it.

 

Buff it like every other tank they can and will buff at some point in the future. What's so special about the VTU? :)

 

What massive gun depression are you talking about? from 6 to 8 or from 6 to 10?

 

At some point you'll see that the only wrong move WG did was not releasing this tank 2 years ago when the CZ tanks were introduced. The VTU debacle is there by design, they're not a charity and this tank along with many others are there as free XP sinks. Same as modules, credits, premium time, etc. a source of income!



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View PostBalc0ra, on 16 April 2019 - 11:57 AM, said:

 

You could argue that about the French HT vs the 65t too. But again, if they sold the TVP as a premium. Would that be better? A tank no one would want to buy? You can't even run stock turret and the 88 then that 90% did grinding it. Just like most did the 65t with the stock gun and turret. 

 

 

Then the crappyness would at least be an option, not a forced factor.

 

And yes, the Mle.49 should indeed be the tech tree tank as it fits EXACTLY in the line while the AMX65t doesn't

 

Same as this premium.

 

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The crappy tier 8s are there for a clear reason, they are designed to be that way so people spend money getting past them asap. 

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View Posttajj7, on 16 April 2019 - 09:22 AM, said:

 

Looks like a baby Skoda T50 in pretty much every way, though questionable whether this challenges the Progetto, it looks like its slightly worse than the Progetto in many areas. 

Slightly worse than Progetto = balanced? Sure it's worse but skill-cap should much lower too. Instead deciding if you should fire one, two or three shells, keep high DPM or use your burst right away, etc., you just dump all your shells and go for reload. It's much easier and simpler.

 

Also, I'm currently grinding T69 and it's pretty meh except the autoloader: this thing is great - 4 shots, fast reload, fast unload. If only it had a bit more penetration, better gun handling and aiming time... like the new Skoda.

View PostFluffyRedFox, on 16 April 2019 - 01:06 PM, said:

Hence why they sold it as a t6 prem instead....

But seriously, there is nothing stopping them from buffing the VTU while introducing a t8 prem for the line. Could actually help improve sales as a major roadblock in the line could be removed and tempt more people to grind it.

They won't buff VTU, because:

View Posttajj7, on 16 April 2019 - 02:59 PM, said:

The crappy tier 8s are there for a clear reason, they are designed to be that way so people spend money getting past them asap. 

Exactly. Skoda T50 and TVP are well worth the grind. I didn't hate TVP that much but halfway through the grind I just said "screw it" and went full gold with 10,5 cm (randoms, I used 8,8 cm for FL). I didn't like, I lost a lot of credits but would I do it again to get T50? Of course I would.



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At last a Premium Tank that is not Russian or French. Something to get excited about quite favorably after a while.

Edited by wEight_Tanker, 16 April 2019 - 07:32 PM.


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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 16 April 2019 - 04:48 AM, said:

Finally the Czechoslovakian tech tree gets a high tier premium. The Skoda T27 is an autoloader with 8.8cm gun and 3 rounds magazine. Overall it's a good tank but the gold penetration is on the lower side compared to a similar tank like the Progetto.

 

 

DPM: 1897

Damage: 240

Penetration: 202/242 mm

Clip size: 3 shots

Intra-clip reload: 1.8s

View range: 390m

Hit points: 1450

 

Camo is surprisingly good, better than the tier 9 T50...

 

Stationary: 23%

Moving: 17.2%

After shot: 4.1%

 

Gun handling and accuracy is good...

 

Dispersion: 0.364

Aim time: 1.82s

Moving: 0.15

Tank traverse: 0.15

Turret traverse: 0.1

After firing: 2.88

Gun elevation: 20°

Gun depression: 8°

 

Mobility is ok, a bit worse than the T50 but not horrible...

 

Engine power: 900 HP

Top speed: 50 Km/h

Specific Power: 22.5 HP/ton

Tank traverse: 44°

Turret traverse: 41.7°

Terrain resistance (crap!)

  • Hard: 0.96
  • Medium: 1.25
  • Soft: 1.82

 

Now i must warn you, she's a looker :girl:...

 

 

 

 

I suspect this is the next marathon.

 

From T-44-100 we have had marathons for :

RU - 3 (not counting T-34E)

Germany - 2, Dicker Max + VK 168.01 (RU server)

USA - 2, T25 Pilot + TS-5

Japan - 1, HT no. VI

Italy - 1, Progetto 46

UK - 1, Caern AX

France - 1, EBR 75 FL 10

 

Considering recent activity in the game files, i would not be surprised if next marathon was just before (or after) Frontlines episode 4.


Edited by VarzA, 16 April 2019 - 07:40 PM.


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View PostVarzA, on 16 April 2019 - 08:37 PM, said:

I suspect this is the next marathon.

 

From T-44-100 we have had marathons for :

RU - 3 (not counting T-34E)

Germany - 2, Dicker Max + VK 168.01 (RU server)

USA - 2, T25 Pilot + TS-5

Japan - 1, HT no. VI

Italy - 1, Progetto 46

UK - 1, Caern AX

France - 1, EBR 75 FL 10

 

Considering recent activity in the game files, i would not be surprised if next marathon was just before (or after) Frontlines episode 4.

 

It'd be nice to find a home for my CZ crew after all these years in the crummy barracks! :)

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Oh boy. Probably another marathon .......

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 16 April 2019 - 11:23 PM, said:

Oh boy. Probably another marathon .......

 

I would love that. It looks like a good tank and from the looks of it, WG is making more money by organizing these marathons. Lots of folks buy the tank for a 50~60% discount instead of not paying a penny.

Miepie #33 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:12 PM

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 16 April 2019 - 07:11 PM, said:

At last a Premium Tank that is not Russian or French. Something to get excited about quite favorably after a while.

 

"At last!", he exclaimed, promptly having forgotten about the TS5, Lansen, HWK30, M41D, Progetto, Polish Heavy, Caernarvon AX, Eagle 7 appearing in the past year... :teethhappy:

 

...and the MKA, L60, TKS 20 mm... :P



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View PostMiepie, on 16 April 2019 - 09:12 PM, said:

 

"At last!", he exclaimed, promptly having forgotten about the TS5, Lansen, HWK30, M41D, Progetto, Polish Heavy, Caernarvon AX, Eagle 7 appearing in the past year... :teethhappy:

 

...and the MKA, L60, TKS 20 mm... :P

 

Oh, well yeah. But Czeczia is one of the exotic tech trees. New ones and America don't count :P

I'm still waiting for Japanese TD line!!!!!!!!



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instead of balancing the tanks in the game *edited* introduce other useless premium tonk

 

ok

 

 


Edited by G_Bg_82, 17 April 2019 - 09:14 AM.
edited content due to not constructive.


VarzA #36 Posted 17 April 2019 - 08:56 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 16 April 2019 - 08:51 PM, said:

 

It'd be nice to find a home for my CZ crew after all these years in the crummy barracks! :)

 

Keep in mind also the difficulty progression that WG had, and how 'easy' the ts-5 one was.

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View PostDeadLecter, on 16 April 2019 - 10:34 AM, said:

They have the same DPM but don't have the clip potential. 

 

My Panther 88 is crying in the corner.

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wow another warning point

 

 

ty "moderators" 



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View Postcrnakoza, on 17 April 2019 - 10:23 AM, said:

My Panther 88 is crying in the corner.

 

Yep, this tank is really in a sorry state!

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View Postcrnakoza, on 17 April 2019 - 08:23 AM, said:

My Panther 88 is crying in the corner.

 

Face it, Germans simply did not know how to build tanks like great tank nations such as Italy or Poland did - that's Wargaming's renowned factual accuracy for you. Now play your Panther 8.8 and give those puny Object 430Us hell.




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