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MeMoRyAL #1 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:05 AM

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Alright so, It's been a while since wargaming developers added TS-5 and I see it quite overpowered. 

 

My suggestion to nerf it's armor a bit, so it could be at least a bit fair for having a fight against him. It's really too OP, it's actually unfair to play against it  when you're lower tier or even a Tier 8.

 

Please, don't kill the fun and let community enjoy, cheers. 



DuncaN_101 #2 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:09 AM

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Overpowered? Since when?

Learn where to hit the thing and pro tip.
That long pointy thing at the front of the tank? Yeah stay away from it

MeetriX #3 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:20 AM

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It is a T28 but has a face that only a mother could love or keep hidden in a basement.

TungstenHitman #4 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:20 AM

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It's nothing untypical for one of those big lumbering heavily armored assault TD's. The trade is they turn really really slowly which means they're highly vulnerable to being flanked, they don't have a turret which means they're very vulnerable to being perma-tracked/farmed, narrow gun arch and of course they're pretty damn slow which means they can't really carry, relocate, react to failing flanks, reset a cap, all that sort of stuff that needs a quicker tank but in exchange for that mind numbing and frustrating playstyle they get some decent frontal armor and dpm.

 

So for it's failings it really should be almost invulnerable frontally to many equal tier tanks but definitely lower tier tanks otherwise there's not much point taking on all those burdens and failing, don't forget, being really slow also makes you a nice big arty magnet too. Problem is, a 3 tier system may make a -2 tier tank that doesn't have the speed or map to flank a tank like this utterly hopeless while on the flip side of that, a TS-5, when it's bottom tier vs T9 and T10 tanks with 300+ pen is just going to get chinned all the time so you may just be seeing this tank from a tier6 point of view in which case a TS-5 is going to be a beast, especially when facing it on a corridor map used by and perhaps being exploited to the full by a somewhat knowledgeable player... but it still wouldn't be as lethal or destructive as you're tier6 T-34-85M would be when it's top tier vs T5 and T4 tanks so... just keep that in mind. 



Rati_Festa #5 Posted 16 April 2019 - 09:27 AM

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Ts5 vs Defender... only one winner for my 1v1s last night. Me in the ts5, its great at obliterating noobs in Defenders :)

Its not so good at fighting anything fast, its an interesting introduction to the game. It does make playing a t8 heavy an even more daunting proposal though.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 16 April 2019 - 10:18 AM

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View PostMeMoRyAL, on 16 April 2019 - 09:05 AM, said:

Alright so, It's been a while since wargaming developers added TS-5 and I see it quite overpowered. 

 

My suggestion to nerf it's armor a bit, so it could be at least a bit fair for having a fight against him. It's really too OP, it's actually unfair to play against it  when you're lower tier or even a Tier 8.

 

Please, don't kill the fun and let community enjoy, cheers. 

 

Overpowered? How so? After playing it and facing it on FL It feels it's underpowered. So do many others. Everyone pens that lower plate in the open. It's strong hull down, but it lacks gun depression to use that armor on a ridgeline. Close up that cupola takes hits. And HEAT pens the area to the side of the mantle with ease each time. The only good part about the tank is the DPM, and that it's not as slow as a T28. But armor vs the T28 in the open? No competition.

 

But if you are a tier 6.. Then ofc. like the normal T28 it will be strong. But the rear side armor, and the rear plate unlike the T28... don't like HE. So my wheeled lights and the HWK 30 with the German Bulldog and their HE pen like it when they catch it by surprise.  Even stock tier 6 guns can bully that side or rear armor. Unlike other armored tanks on tier 8. So keep that in mind when you face it next time.

 

 



OllieCromwell #7 Posted 16 April 2019 - 10:31 AM

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View PostRati_Festa, on 16 April 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Ts5 vs Defender... only one winner for my 1v1s last night. Me in the ts5, its great at obliterating noobs in Defenders :)

Its not so good at fighting anything fast, its an interesting introduction to the game. It does make playing a t8 heavy an even more daunting proposal though.

 

Did the same last night to an obj.252u. .... 

No doubt it will work for a while until people start learning the TS-5 weakspot(s) and things won't be as easy as they are for now.

 



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View PostRati_Festa, on 16 April 2019 - 09:27 AM, said:

Ts5 vs Defender... only one winner for my 1v1s last night. Me in the ts5, its great at obliterating noobs in Defenders :)

Its not so good at fighting anything fast, its an interesting introduction to the game. It does make playing a t8 heavy an even more daunting proposal though.

 

Wasn't going to buy one, by principle because I think this kinds of marathons for discounts are filthy... then I was in a game,in Abbey noob tomato in a Ts5 vs green player in a Patton M48,,, and the tomato noob was able to kill the Patton... I just had to have one.... still have not played it though,

Edited by pecopad, 16 April 2019 - 10:39 AM.


Toni112007 #9 Posted 16 April 2019 - 10:38 AM

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Its worse than T28, so how exactly its OP?

Homer_J #10 Posted 16 April 2019 - 10:44 AM

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View PostMeMoRyAL, on 16 April 2019 - 09:05 AM, said:

Alright so, It's been a while since wargaming developers added TS-5 and I see it quite overpowered. 

 

My suggestion to nerf it's armor a bit, so it could be at least a bit fair for having a fight against him. It's really too OP, it's actually unfair to play against it  when you're lower tier or even a Tier 8.

 

Please, don't kill the fun and let community enjoy, cheers. 

 

You are being sarcastic, right?

BR33K1_PAWAH #11 Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:05 AM

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Yeah...

Rati_Festa #12 Posted 16 April 2019 - 11:39 AM

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View PostOllieCromwell, on 16 April 2019 - 10:31 AM, said:

 

Did the same last night to an obj.252u. .... 

No doubt it will work for a while until people start learning the TS-5 weakspot(s) and things won't be as easy as they are for now.

 

 

A lot will never learn, its just a big shotgun on wheels at t8 its alpha/dpm is deadly. If you time it right you can usually get 2 shots off on a badly positioned heavy. Its great fun blasting Defenders and Is3a's in and then them scurrying off to hide.



PowJay #13 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:06 PM

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UP player complains about OP vehicle. Seems legit. 

thestaggy #14 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:37 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 16 April 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

 

Wasn't going to buy one, by principle because I think this kinds of marathons for discounts are filthy... then I was in a game,in Abbey noob tomato in a Ts5 vs green player in a Patton M48,,, and the tomato noob was able to kill the Patton... I just had to have one.... still have not played it though,

 

Then that Patton player must have bought his account then.

 

Cupola is 185 - 210 mm.

Lower plate is 195 - 225 mm

There are even parts of the upper glacis around the mantlet that are ~265 mm thick, vulnerable to RNG-blessed APCR shells.

 

With 268 APCR the M48 should butter a TS-5. If the M48 goes full HEAT then there is no reason why a Patton should not be able to pen it.

 

This is a TS-5 vs M48 HEAT:

 


Edited by thestaggy, 16 April 2019 - 12:38 PM.


Mimos_A #15 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:48 PM

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It's really easy to take them out, lower plate is an easy pen and the cupola is an easy target as well.

 

It's no surprise a lot of donkeys struggle to kill it, but if you spend about 10 seconds on tanks.gg and use your brain while playing you'll eat them for breakfast.

 

It's one of those tanks that's gonna be fun to play for the first few weeks as for some innate reason people seem to be very much attracted to sitting in front of it (2900dpm, hello?), and shoot it at all the wrong places. After people figure out how to deal with it (or if you already meet someone who's not braindead), the fun is over pretty quickly.

 

Also, it's so slow, so if you meet one in an unfavourable position, just leave and draw him out, it's not like the thing is gonna catch up with anything quickly...



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T28 has better armor profile than the TS-5. TS-5 has too much weakspots for its armor to work. Even if you hide abysmal lower plate they easily butter through your huge commander hatch. T28 commander hatches are harder to hit plus lower plate isn't really weak (about 235mm effective). And whats worse? TS-5 has really bad accuracy that it must spend 90% of its time right in front of the enemy where they can shoot your weakspots even easier. T28 can snipe with its decent accuracy from distance when needed.

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vasilinhorulezz #17 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:12 PM

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it was about time for someone to make a thread like that.

Still, you are probably the only one that thinks like that. Anyway, everyone is entitled in his opinion.



vomalios #18 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:31 PM

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OP? Are we talking about the same tank? It's literally piñata, like TOG II. Of course, some worse players can ding from it, and from a distance, it might be hard to aim correctly to weak spots, but let's be honest - it doesn't work as a sniper. Accuracy is poor, camo isn't that great and if you add to this slow relocation, you have a perfect SPG target. If I didn't need some tank to exp my crews for E4/E3, I wouldn't play it at all. 
Sure, DPM is awesome, hull armor is OK, but everything else just sucks about this tank. Hitting this big commander's cupola might be hard for Russian HTs, but everybody else should do it without problems. 

MeMoRyAL #19 Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:19 PM

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Okay pay to win, someone might lock this crap. 

 

WoT was better in 2014-2017



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View PostMeMoRyAL, on 16 April 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

Okay pay to win, someone might lock this crap. 

 

WoT was better in 2014-2017

 

What a mature reaction to people not sharing your misguided opinion on a tank you don't even have.




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