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Bruecki2938 #1 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:47 PM

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How long will you still need to fix this directive? This bug is known for MONTHS now.....

 

Tank with Concealment skill:

 

 

Tank without Concealment skill but with "Natural Cover" - which should give 100 % Concealment skill:

 

 

Yet you have a difference in concealment of over 3 %

 



Cobra6 #2 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:48 PM

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Because it gets activated in the battle and thus isn't visible in the garage perhaps?

 

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Bruecki2938 #3 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:51 PM

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It's "activated" in the garage and and in the comparision tool - It's a well know bug that the directive is not taking into account stuff like food, vents, bia, etc.... (it doesn't even account for the 10 % basic skill increase other crew members get if the commander is on 100 %)

Edited by Bruecki2938, 16 April 2019 - 12:53 PM.


Balc0ra #4 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:52 PM

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Well tbh, this is the first time I've heard of it. Because on my tanks that I use it on with a crew with less then 100% camo on each crew member. It goes up, not down. And on the few that has 100% camo on each member. It still goes up. Be that in the garage, or the comparison tool. You sure it's not a mod screwing it up? And yes, they all have bia, vents etc.

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Bruecki2938 #5 Posted 16 April 2019 - 12:57 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 16 April 2019 - 12:52 PM, said:

Well tbh, this is the first time I've heard of it. Because on my tanks that I use it on with a crew with less then 100% camo on each crew member. It goes up, not down. And on the few that has 100% camo on each member. It still goes up. Be that in the garage, or the comparison tool. You sure it's not a mod screwing it up? And yes, they all have bia, vents etc.

 

Yes it goes up... but not to the value it should.... because it doesn't add stuff that increases the basic skill of the crew members... is reading that hard?

 

I don't use any mods and you can try it yourself in the comparision tool... and as I mentioned too... this bug is known for months, I'm not the only one "encountering" it - I just want to know when it will be fixed for good....



barison1 #6 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:01 PM

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it is not a bug, you are just overlooking something that is mentioned in the directive description

 

having 100% camo skill, add directive and gives a 10% boost to that

works same for firefighting etc(altough that gives an extra 50%)


Edited by barison1, 16 April 2019 - 01:04 PM.


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View PostBruecki2938, on 16 April 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

 

 

I don't use any mods and you can try it yourself in the comparision tool... and as I mentioned too... this bug is known for months,

 

Is the bug present in came or just in the comparison tool?

Bruecki2938 #8 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:05 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 16 April 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

it is not a bug, you are just overlooking something that is mentioned in the directive description

 

WHUT? What is wrong with you ppl?

 

Did you even look at the screenshots?

 

One tank has the crew skill selected - the other tank doesn't have the crew skill selected but is using the directive... The directive says "crew members who don't have the skill trained to 100 % will it have trained to 100 %" -> Should be the same as everyone of the crew members have the skill actually trained to 100 %.....

 

Why do I always make the mistake and come to the forums again and again....


Edited by Bruecki2938, 16 April 2019 - 01:07 PM.


barison1 #9 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:14 PM

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View PostBruecki2938, on 16 April 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

 

WHUT? What is wrong with you ppl?

 

Did you even look at the screenshots?

 

One tank has the crew skill selected - the other tank doesn't have the crew skill selected but is using the directive... The directive says "crew members who don't have the skill trained to 100 % will it have trained to 100 %" -> Should be the same as everyone of the crew members have the skill actually trained to 100 %.....

 

Why do I always make the mistake and come to the forums again and again....

read my text again, you are the one overlooking things

 

camo skill 100%, add directive, directive gives 10% bonus

 

directive alone gives 100% camo but not the 10% bonus



Bruecki2938 #10 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:17 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 16 April 2019 - 01:14 PM, said:

read my text again, you are the one overlooking things

 

camo skill 100%, add directive, directive gives 10% bonus

 

directive alone gives 100% camo but not the 10% bonus

 

no wonder you are in meme....... THE FIRST TANK WITH THE CONCEALMENT SKILL DOESNT HAVE THE DIRECTIVE EQUIPPED SO IT CAN/HAS NOT THE ADDITIONAL 10 PERCENT BONUS OKAY!!!!!!!!!!

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View Postbarison1, on 16 April 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

read my text again, you are the one overlooking things

 

camo skill 100%, add directive, directive gives 10% bonus

 

directive alone gives 100% camo but not the 10% bonus

 

He has two crews for a tank

Bia crew & camo directive

Bia+camo crew & no directive

 

They should add up to the same amount but they don't.



Bruecki2938 #12 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:19 PM

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View Posteldrak, on 16 April 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

 

He has two crews for a tank

Bia crew & camo directive

Bia+camo crew & no directive

 

They should add up to the same amount but they don't.

 

thank god one person with a brain and reading skills......

Edited by Bruecki2938, 16 April 2019 - 01:19 PM.


barison1 #13 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:21 PM

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View Posteldrak, on 16 April 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

 

He has two crews for a tank

Bia crew & camo directive

Bia+camo crew & no directive

 

They should add up to the same amount but they don't.

 

my bad, 1st pic looked like having camo directive aswell, blame phone screen

 

still comparison tool being shite, just looking at tank itself in garage should show correct values

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View PostBruecki2938, on 16 April 2019 - 01:17 PM, said:

 

no wonder you are in meme....... THE FIRST TANK WITH THE CONCEALMENT SKILL DOESNT HAVE THE DIRECTIVE EQUIPPED SO IT CAN/HAS NOT THE ADDITIONAL 10 PERCENT BONUS OKAY!!!!!!!!!!

 

tryit always this toxic? trying too hard perhaps? :trollface:

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So have you actually tested this in game and proved there's  a bug or you just complaining about garage numbers?

Bruecki2938 #15 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:25 PM

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not toxic - i told you twice what my case was and i also told you to look at the screenshots again.... third time.... and garage is showing the same values as the tool....

Edited by Bruecki2938, 16 April 2019 - 01:26 PM.


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View PostBruecki2938, on 16 April 2019 - 01:25 PM, said:

not toxic - i told you twice what my case was and i also told you to look at the screenshots again.... third time....

 

copy paste from earlier;

 

my bad, 1st pic looked like having camo directive aswell, blame phone screen

 

still comparison tool being shite, just looking at tank itself in garage should show correct values

 

 

so maybe test it out ingame now, as comparison tool is never fully to rely on, 99.9% sure its just an UI bug in comparison tool



TankkiPoju #17 Posted 16 April 2019 - 01:52 PM

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Game GUI is pretty bug ridden, WG doesnt seem to mind much.

 

Here's my Comet being locked after dying in random game. One of those things that make you go "hmm." Maybe it's so OP OP WG thought I will use it in tier 8 CW.

 



Homer_J #18 Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:10 PM

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On the subject of....

View PostBruecki2938, on 16 April 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

 

thank god one person with a brain and reading skills......

 

How about...

 

View PostHomer_J, on 16 April 2019 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

Is the bug present in came or just in the comparison tool?

 

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 16 April 2019 - 01:23 PM, said:

So have you actually tested this in game and proved there's  a bug or you just complaining about garage numbers?

 

Not saying it wouldn't be nice to fix it anyway but I suspect it's just the comparison tool.

 

Mind you, the last time I said "there's no way they would do it that way" regarding camo programming, they actually did it that way.



Bruecki2938 #19 Posted 16 April 2019 - 02:13 PM

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Last time I tested it in the training room it was bugged "in real world" too - others did the test too.

 

As they values are still off I assumed it's still not fixen BUT I'll test it out again tonight!



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Best get your knickers untwisted before you get back to real life pal.




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