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wEight_Tanker #1 Posted 17 April 2019 - 09:07 PM

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...dumb vehicles.

 



WindSplitter1 #2 Posted 17 April 2019 - 11:48 PM

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 17 April 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

...dumb vehicles.

 

More dumber than the bobject?

 

Takes skill to successfully play WVs or any other LT in general.


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Strizi #3 Posted 18 April 2019 - 01:08 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 17 April 2019 - 11:48 PM, said:

 

More dumber than the bobject?

 

Takes skill to successfully play WVs or any other LT in general.

 

Cars take no skill. Play frontline and look what they do - drive around spamming he like mongoloids. Its infuriating.

SuedKAT #4 Posted 18 April 2019 - 01:36 AM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 17 April 2019 - 11:48 PM, said:

 

Takes skill to successfully play WVs or any other LT in general.

Most LT's have WR curves that show this while all WV's have WR curves that point to the opposite so yeah...



Balc0ra #5 Posted 18 April 2019 - 02:05 AM

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View PostStrizi, on 18 April 2019 - 01:08 AM, said:

 

Cars take no skill. Play frontline and look what they do - drive around spamming he like mongoloids. Its infuriating.

 

Because FL is a 3x3km map. And sure they can bully better there.... Just like all the 432's are doing... that I see 2x more of.

 

Then agian in randoms on the corridor maps there? Less so. As if you think they are that good. Play them and you will notice it's not every game you can do that,  even on FL.



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View PostStrizi, on 18 April 2019 - 12:08 AM, said:

 

Cars take no skill. Play frontline and look what they do - drive around spamming he like mongoloids. Its infuriating.

 

oh boy oh boy.... just wait for the wheelchair defensors :popcorn:

Wheelchair in FL is so fun, aim? F that! lets just auto aim and hit everyone while going full speed turning around... Lets do ridiculous jumps, turns and never flip... Or just reach ataking positions faster than the defenders. #Balanced



Strizi #7 Posted 18 April 2019 - 03:15 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 18 April 2019 - 02:05 AM, said:

 

Because FL is a 3x3km map. And sure they can bully better there.... Just like all the 432's are doing... that I see 2x more of.

 

Then agian in randoms on the corridor maps there? Less so. As if you think they are that good. Play them and you will notice it's not every game you can do that,  even on FL.

 

I see them doing it every game. There is probably not a single game without a car spamming he driving in circles around everyone like someone from the mental asylum.

Homer_J #8 Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:12 AM

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View PostStrizi, on 18 April 2019 - 01:08 AM, said:

 

Cars take no skill. Play frontline and look what they do - drive around spamming he like mongoloids. Its infuriating.

 

They are the only thing which makes FL even slightly interesting.  Without them it would be Skorpion and spaghetti tanks everywhere.

Tyburn #9 Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:43 AM

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Ah ... this still. Some games the wheeled vehicle causes carnage. Others it’s dead in 10 secs. Seems balanced to me. I find it highly amusing that adjustment to how these cars have changed things hasn’t yet materialised for some people.

Cobra6 #10 Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:50 AM

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View PostStrizi, on 18 April 2019 - 12:08 AM, said:

 

Cars take no skill. Play frontline and look what they do - drive around spamming he like mongoloids. Its infuriating.

 

Because they are outplaying you you mean?

That is the definition of skill.

 

WV's are so under balanced that only the best players can make them work effectively and consistently.

 

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Lethul #11 Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:52 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 18 April 2019 - 07:50 AM, said:

 

Because they are outplaying you you mean?

That is the definition of skill.

 

WV's are so under balanced that only the best players can make them work effectively and consistently.

 

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They overperform WR wise all over the spectrum tho.

Cobra6 #12 Posted 18 April 2019 - 09:00 AM

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View PostLethul, on 18 April 2019 - 07:52 AM, said:

 

They overperform WR wise all over the spectrum tho.

 

Do they now?

 

Please enlighten me.

 

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arthurwellsley #13 Posted 18 April 2019 - 09:16 AM

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 17 April 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

...dumb vehicles.

 

 

I see the OP is looking forward with glee and anticipation to the new UK line of wheeled vehicles. I would guess that looking at real life vehicles built in steel that USA and Germany have sufficient candidates as well for full lines without requiring made up blue prints.

 

Because the RU server population is so huge and important for WG profit I guess we can also expect a line for the USSR that begins with plenty of armoured cars that existed and fought, and ends with a few design theory Objects.

 



Lethul #14 Posted 18 April 2019 - 09:26 AM

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View PostCobra6, on 18 April 2019 - 08:00 AM, said:

 

Do they now?

 

Please enlighten me.

 

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Players in average perform about 3% higher WR in t8-9-10 EBR than their average WR and a bit less in the lynx.

 

Basically every other t8-10 light tank has lower WR in the tank than the player has on averag (with 1 notable exception which is the lt-432 which is known to be excellently balanced)

 

http://wot-news.com/.../tankinfo/en/eu - filter on a tank and click tank curves.

Some tanks have quite funky curves (notably amx 13 90) and I dont really know how to interprate them :)



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View PostLethul, on 18 April 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

 

Players in average perform about 3% higher WR in t8-9-10 EBR than their average WR and a bit less in the lynx.

 

Basically every other t8-10 light tank has lower WR in the tank than the player has on averag (with 1 notable exception which is the lt-432 which is known to be excellently balanced)

 

http://wot-news.com/.../tankinfo/en/eu - filter on a tank and click tank curves.

Some tanks have quite funky curves (notably amx 13 90) and I dont really know how to interprate them :)

 

Shhhhh....  We don't talk about win rate curves here (unless they agree with our point of view of course.... ;) )

Cobra6 #16 Posted 18 April 2019 - 10:37 AM

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View PostLethul, on 18 April 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

 

Players in average perform about 3% higher WR in t8-9-10 EBR than their average WR and a bit less in the lynx.

 

Basically every other t8-10 light tank has lower WR in the tank than the player has on averag (with 1 notable exception which is the lt-432 which is known to be excellently balanced)

 

http://wot-news.com/.../tankinfo/en/eu - filter on a tank and click tank curves.

Some tanks have quite funky curves (notably amx 13 90) and I dont really know how to interprate them :)

 

You are comparing WV's to LT's while LT's on T8=>10 are mostly underpowered/uncompetitive to begin with? I mean T10 lights especially are underperforming due to their aggressive balancing (increased penetration drop-off, bad view range etc.).

Saying they perform better then a LT on tier 8 and upwards is not saying too much.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 18 April 2019 - 10:37 AM.


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View PostStrizi, on 18 April 2019 - 12:08 AM, said:

 

Cars take no skill. Play frontline and look what they do - drive around spamming he like mongoloids. Its infuriating.

Have you actually played them? Frontlines being an exception due to the size of the map i'd say they are up there amongst the highest skill cap tanks in the game. 



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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 17 April 2019 - 08:07 PM, said:

Wheeled Vehicles

 


Edited by Bordhaw, 18 April 2019 - 06:40 PM.


wEight_Tanker #19 Posted 18 April 2019 - 08:16 PM

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No, I don't mind getting tracked twice in a row by a wheelie from 400m on the move, I just think they're dumb. :P

krismorgan #20 Posted 19 April 2019 - 09:32 AM

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Yup im sick of them in fl too but not so much randoms.Plus when i shoot 432`s i damage them.

Edited by krismorgan, 19 April 2019 - 09:32 AM.





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