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Zaishen #1 Posted 21 April 2019 - 01:11 PM

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Hi guys, i like WoT, but the matchking system is unfair, me and my bro playing platoon and we are tier 6 or 7, our enemy  is always 2 tiers higher than us, we cant do nothing, we cant earn money because we shot many and no dmg we consume things and we cant earn nothing..., we are thinking to quit because has no sense playing this.

Please make same tier match making, defender tier 8 vs jgpz 6..., 0 dmg, 0 chances, fix your game guys.



Jigabachi #2 Posted 21 April 2019 - 01:21 PM

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View PostZaishen, on 21 April 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

we cant do nothing

Short answer: Learn to play.

Long answer: https://wiki.wargami...tle_Mechanics   +   Youtube tutorials   +   lots and lots of other sources that can help improving



If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #3 Posted 21 April 2019 - 01:23 PM

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Under tier 8 games should only be +1/-1

 

WoT needs to sort it



ValkyrionX #4 Posted 21 April 2019 - 01:31 PM

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if you are playing a tier 6 in a game against tier 8 try to deal with the tanks of your level and at most play as support for your level 8 allies

 

stop whining always about MM , is boring



Ggorc #5 Posted 21 April 2019 - 01:38 PM

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When you start find some missions that you can run, you get some commander with free skill and silver. Grind multiple low tier tanks using daily xp boosts and find a tier 5 that you can farm credits with, maybe a premium

Balc0ra #6 Posted 21 April 2019 - 02:19 PM

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View PostZaishen, on 21 April 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

Hi guys, i like WoT, but the matchking system is unfair, me and my bro playing platoon and we are tier 6 or 7, our enemy  is always 2 tiers higher than us, we cant do nothing, we cant earn money because we shot many and no dmg we consume things and we cant earn nothing..., we are thinking to quit because has no sense playing this.

Please make same tier match making, defender tier 8 vs jgpz 6..., 0 dmg, 0 chances, fix your game guys.

 

Defender like many tier 8 HT's is strong vs tier 6 guns. But if you keep in at the front, you will struggle, as your guns will do vs most armored +1 targets even considering your pen. You have mobility, camo and view range if you use optics/binocs. Use it. Letting him come close or seek him out to attack close range you give him the advantage.  Your guns work at the side and rear. And he is not strong in the open. If it's late game and it's just the two of you. Spot him behind a bush, pull back 15m and fire after you force him out in the open. Either split up and force him to turn is gun away so one can farm him at the time. Or one tracks him, the other damage him. As the 150 pen gun can perma track him. You play TD's. Even vs +1 HT's you don't want to be seen vs their 122 and 105 guns.

 

And if you have to fire head on vs targets you can't pen. But you have others that can pen it. Track hits works wonders. As any damage he takes then, is still credits and XP to you. You don't have to do damage to be useful. +2 MM can be tricky depending on what you drive. Not arguing that. Some have an easier time than others. As even with 145 pen, my Cromwell never feels useless in a +2. As he is flexible, fast and can even double as a scout to farm XP that way. Unlike the 40TP that was to slow and had no DPM to work that way.

 

The new MM is better and you see way less +2 games. But you still seem to struggle in most of your tanks. Either due to tactics or MM. If you struggle, figure out why. Go to tank.gg and look at the armor profiles vs targets you can't fight. Figure out where you can pen them. Take the IS-3 for instance. Your Borsig with the 15cm gun can't pen his turret head on with that pen, but you can overmatch his roof plate with AP. 



Bigtime_Alarm #7 Posted 21 April 2019 - 03:13 PM

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Unfair MM is just one more unfair thing in world of unfair.

mpf1959 #8 Posted 21 April 2019 - 03:22 PM

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Plus two minus two is stupid match-making in my opinion, but unless WG ever change it, you just need to try and do what you can. I agree with it being a bad thing though, I can only imagine it's purpose is to reward the players at higher tiers with some pinata's to make them happy.

 

One up one down would be an improvement, and god forbid the lunacy of having all single tier games! 



Jigabachi #9 Posted 21 April 2019 - 03:24 PM

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View PostBigtime_Alarm, on 21 April 2019 - 03:13 PM, said:

Unfair MM is just one more unfair thing in world of unfair.

The +/-2 MM in general isn't unfair, it's perfectly playable. The templates that created mostly bottomtiermatches and the horrible tank balance are the problems.


Edited by Jigabachi, 21 April 2019 - 03:25 PM.


ccoolliinn_1 #10 Posted 21 April 2019 - 03:54 PM

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I thought +/-2 matchmaking was terrible but its not, it was the fact you were always bottom tier. As that has been corrected some what I don't mind anymore, its not all bad took down a IS3 the other day with a ARL 44 one to one, made me smile. Remember in WW2 German tanks were superior but didn't stop M4s and T34 fighting them and winning. If you think tier 6 have it hard against tier 8 wait until you fight tier 10 in your tier 8.

DeadLecter #11 Posted 21 April 2019 - 04:12 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 21 April 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

The +/-2 MM in general isn't unfair, it's perfectly playable. The templates that created mostly bottomtiermatches and the horrible tank balance are the problems.

And the bad players that only rush tiers to get as many high tier tanks as they can while they can't even properly fight a -2 tier tank in a 1 vs 1 scenario.



wEight_Tanker #12 Posted 21 April 2019 - 04:15 PM

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View PostZaishen, on 21 April 2019 - 01:11 PM, said:

Hi guys, i like WoT, but the matchking system is unfair, me and my bro playing platoon and we are tier 6 or 7, our enemy  is always 2 tiers higher than us, we cant do nothing, we cant earn money because we shot many and no dmg we consume things and we cant earn nothing..., we are thinking to quit because has no sense playing this.

Please make same tier match making, defender tier 8 vs jgpz 6..., 0 dmg, 0 chances, fix your game guys.

 

Be thankful for what we have. If you haven't played WoT Classic event then I cannot emphasize how grateful for our current game, matchmaking and artillery I am.

Japualtah #13 Posted 21 April 2019 - 04:21 PM

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You are correct Zaichen, and WG is shooting themselves in the foot.

They still have the best tank game available and yet are losing customers.

And no, the game being years old is not the only reason; the poor quality of the dev team is in question here.

 

Either Russians have a very different perception of things than westerners (which my Russian students don't tend to confirm) or they just happened to be the first on a brilliant idea but never were up to the task of producing a AAA product.

Watching WG official videos and the stern devs speaking (why do the words broom and bottom spring to mind?) they don't seem very comfortable with their own product, to say the least.

 

Or, which might very well be the real reason, they have never been interested in gaming in the first place and just designed a fantastic cash cow.

In which case, kudos to them.

 

Anyway, the MM sucks, has always sucked and always will.

It should always have been +1/-1 and such gaps between tanks shouldn't exist.


Edited by Japualtah, 21 April 2019 - 04:22 PM.


7thSyndicate #14 Posted 21 April 2019 - 04:51 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 21 April 2019 - 12:21 PM, said:

Short answer: Learn to play.

Long answer: https://wiki.wargami...tle_Mechanics   +   Youtube tutorials   +   lots and lots of other sources that can help improving

 

Yes learn to play aKa press 2 for skill most cases. playing t6 v t8 is not enjoyable unless ur experienced and smart with your moves and the 2 key

PowJay #15 Posted 21 April 2019 - 05:35 PM

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Yeah. Can't do anything as bottom tier against VIII

 

http://wotreplays.eu...y-ikv_65_alt_ii

http://wotreplays.eu...jay-m36_jackson

http://wotreplays.eu...ay-powjay-t-150

 

And that's just a couple of tier VI battles. My tier IV vs VI and V vs VII track record is much more impressive. 

 

The only thing stopping you doing better is your own ineptitude. EVERY player faces the same MM and some manage to win often enough. Others are more consistent losers. 

 

The only thing I would say is that the MM has been punishing since 3-5-7 was introduced. I can't judge the impact of the recent changes, however, as I'm taking April off.

 

 



Baldrickk #16 Posted 21 April 2019 - 05:41 PM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 21 April 2019 - 01:23 PM, said:

Under tier 8 games should only be +1/-1

 

WoT needs to sort it

Bah, +-2 should be back at tier 3.

Open maps should be seen from tier 1 again too.

 

Being too coddling for new players just means they don't learn how to play, and end up getting a shock when they get to the actual game and haven't learned how to play with their head.



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Please don't duplicate threads. For any matchmaker discussions use this topic:
http://forum.worldof...ussion-thread/ 

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