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_BESMRTNIK_ #1 Posted 21 April 2019 - 10:20 PM

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No need to say anything.

Spoiler

 

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NekoPuffer_PPP #2 Posted 21 April 2019 - 10:30 PM

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See, that's exactly why XVM should be banned... it only creates pessimism.

 

Though to be fair...that Panther on your team...oof...



TPpie #3 Posted 21 April 2019 - 10:40 PM

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If you think the Pre-Battle can be bad, you should prepare for the Post-Battle, i.e;

 

Spoiler

 

 

View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 21 April 2019 - 10:30 PM, said:

Though to be fair...that Panther on your team...oof...

 

 

fite me 1v1


Edited by TPpie, 21 April 2019 - 10:42 PM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 21 April 2019 - 10:41 PM

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 21 April 2019 - 11:30 PM, said:

See, that's exactly why XVM should be banned... it only creates pessimism.

 

Though to be fair...that Panther on your team...oof...

 

XVM induced feelings got nothing to do with a certain and ignominious defeat based on the team's performance, or the lack thereof.

 

I am only quoting you for "pessimism" though! ;)


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 21 April 2019 - 10:42 PM.


Enherjaren #5 Posted 21 April 2019 - 10:42 PM

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WN8=Toxcity 

That was ONE game. It always even itself out in the end. 

7thSyndicate #6 Posted 21 April 2019 - 11:20 PM

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Only recent stats matter dont bother about anything else and wn8 is not a good skill measure to beging with. Personaly i like the "skill" measure so the game has a meaning and objectives/some reason to play the game. I dont use xvm but did few years ago and im glad i never used that garbage again, it has impact in your gameplay... should be banned in battle, all else i dont care.

1ncompetenc3 #7 Posted 22 April 2019 - 12:38 AM

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If coloured numbers distract and bother you so much, maybe not use them.

Jigabachi #8 Posted 22 April 2019 - 01:07 AM

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View Post_BESMRTNIK_, on 21 April 2019 - 10:20 PM, said:

No need to say anything.

Ok.

Close thread?



CraftyVeteran #9 Posted 22 April 2019 - 03:17 AM

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xvm has been a wonderful tool exposing WG's incompetence when it comes to team balance.

Laatikkomafia #10 Posted 22 April 2019 - 05:48 AM

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Do you happen to have 100 consecutive battles screenshot in order to show us how your team never gets those blue / purple players?

 

Besides, why should WG rig the MM in order for bad or average players to win more in a mode called RANDOM battle.



4nt #11 Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:01 AM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 22 April 2019 - 05:48 AM, said:

Do you happen to have 100 consecutive battles screenshot in order to show us how your team never gets those blue / purple players?

 

Besides, why should WG rig the MM in order for bad or average players to win more in a mode called RANDOM battle.

Because they would be at least blunicums otherwise, duh.

 

Wondering why OP bothered even with this. Anyone could post these, everyone knows this happens, and no-one should care.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #12 Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:33 AM

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View PostCraftyVeteran, on 22 April 2019 - 03:17 AM, said:

xvm has been a wonderful tool exposing WG's incompetence when it comes to team balance.

 

It might have been if they had ever made the claim that they balanced teams, but they don't.

 

Random battles are random. Clue is in the name.



Shad0wize #13 Posted 22 April 2019 - 06:47 AM

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Oh, so you're one of those mouth-breathers that starts spamming the minimap and cussing at the beginning of the game. "We've got 11% win chance boo-hoo."

You're also on the other side, you see the enemy has an 11% win chance and charge straight through, getting immediately obliterated and then complaining when your team loses because they pushed in like a bunch of donkeys and basically killed themselves.

 

If you all played the darn game instead of staring at the colours of each team member you would in fact get the results you desire more often.

 

In all honesty I wish y'all had the best stats in the world, with a high win chance as well. So you can feel how fun it is when 3 artillery pieces are firing ONLY at you and people try to yolo and kill you as if by killing the one with the better statistics will somehow render 14 guns obsolete.



DonKralleone #14 Posted 22 April 2019 - 07:51 AM

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I share the sentiment and eventually uninstalled XVM myself due to "pessimism", but there WAS a certain joy when ur team sometimes WON those 20% winchance battles!

Laiskamato #15 Posted 22 April 2019 - 08:36 AM

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View PostVermelandia, on 22 April 2019 - 12:42 AM, said:

WN8=Toxcity 

That was ONE game. It always even itself out in the end. 

 

How is WN8 toxicity?

Remove the ability of people seeing the stats from the game and WN8 means absolutely nothing, as it should

Only information we need in the game is tank list, we don't even need names of the players.

Now for reporting purposes hiding names is not even a problem since we all have the unique WG number.

This attached to the tank you are playing and people doing naughty things will still get reported.

 

All the XVM stat related problems solved.

Its this simple yet they refuse to do it which to this day boggles my mind.



Bordhaw #16 Posted 22 April 2019 - 09:47 AM

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 21 April 2019 - 09:30 PM, said:

See, that's exactly why XVM should be banned... it only creates pessimism.

 

Though to be fair...that Panther on your team...oof...

 

View PostLaiskamato, on 22 April 2019 - 07:36 AM, said:

 

How is WN8 toxicity?

Remove the ability of people seeing the stats from the game and WN8 means absolutely nothing, as it should

Only information we need in the game is tank list, we don't even need names of the players.

Now for reporting purposes hiding names is not even a problem since we all have the unique WG number.

This attached to the tank you are playing and people doing naughty things will still get reported.

 

All the XVM stat related problems solved.

Its this simple yet they refuse to do it which to this day boggles my mind.

 

Still wouldnt change the result though.

 

If the battle starts with an 11% win chance no amount of "positive thinking" will change the result of a defeat whether you can see XVM or not. 



CoDiGGo #17 Posted 22 April 2019 - 09:53 AM

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Yeah, I stopped playing "randoms" because of that.

 

In 2015 unbalanced teams were about 20-30%, nowdays 90%. I dont trust wg "random", I dont trust wg "RNG"

 

In +-2tier games both sides top tiers PR should be balanced at least, and IMO there should be 2 leagues, under 5500 PR league "learning the basics" and over 5500 PR league.


Edited by CoDiGGo, 22 April 2019 - 10:01 AM.


Shad0wize #18 Posted 22 April 2019 - 12:00 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 22 April 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

 

 

Still wouldnt change the result though.

 

If the battle starts with an 11% win chance no amount of "positive thinking" will change the result of a defeat whether you can see XVM or not. 

 

You guys do not comprehend the basics of the game. People with good statistics are one of two kinds.

Exhibit A.

Exhibit A presents himself with promising winrate and wn8 statistics. Tends to play lower tier and highly regarded for their overall ease of use vehicles or broken tanks such as the E25. He is by no means a good player, in fact he is just under average. However he plays whichever tank increases his stats the more since he likes to imagine he is in fact a prodigy at this game. They only stay back and farm damage, they never spot even in light tanks or situations that require that, they will rush enemy tanks with bad stats expecting to magically bounce every single shell and get a free kill just because he is purple.

Exhibit B.

Exhibit B presents himself with moderate winrate and wn8 statistics, his overall recents tend to be in the highs and in the lows as he's grinding through various lines although never under the 'very good' line unless the games gain him a high amount of wn7 for all the spotting he does. He is a players that somehow is always firing his gun yet in good enough positions so he can back up, the only thing that tends to gets him tends to be wolfpacks and even then they struggle to kill him quickly.

Exhibit B can be seen sometimes chasing several tanks away, making entire lines collapse, tracking vehicles in the open and wondering why in the world nobody's shooting at them.

Exhibit B does not necessarily use xvm, however in the rare moments he does and spots a low winchance he helps his team. He secures a flank and quickly jumps to the other, he ends the 4% win chance game on top of his team. On everything.

Experience, damage, spotting and even blocked even though he might be in a tank without viewrange or with -at best- moderate amounts of armour.

 

Exhibit B is by no means perfect nor he believes himself to be such. However he holds his ground, tries his best and will always tell you that no matter what statistics say it is only human to make a mistake. At 2,000 wn8 overall he knows that his comprehension of the game mechanics and overall functionality is just starting to form and there is a very long way from that to actually being what his overalls call him: a super unicum.

 



Baldrickk #19 Posted 22 April 2019 - 12:03 PM

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So, you had a battle from the far left

So what? As you can see,  they are rare. 



PayMore #20 Posted 22 April 2019 - 12:18 PM

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To me this just showns how bad the mm is. WN8 is an important tool to document WG's work with improvment of their MM.





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