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etody77 #101 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:23 PM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 23 April 2019 - 02:29 PM, said:

 

Out of tier 9s, M103,

 

One of the oldest tier 9, never heard about him that is OP

untill now...

 



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View PostNotRichou, on 23 April 2019 - 04:03 PM, said:

AP gets better normalization than APCR 

 

But slower shell velocity. That matters a lot when sniping.

Christofia #103 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:25 PM

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And let's not forget the greatest business model WG has come up with so far: let's make a T10 tank OP as sh*t, leave it for a while so people will spend a serious amount of time (and money) to get it, then nerf it to the ground.

Repeat.

You can officially challenge EA for the worst company ever, congratulations!


Edited by Christofia, 23 April 2019 - 04:27 PM.


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Really hope to see light tank rebalance in upcoming announcements. they are in such a bad condition its funny.

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So as someone who owns and like to play those vehicles:

 

STB-1

I like current version of STB-1 so those changes for me is unknown place, I will see when it arrives on CT if it helps to my playstyle or it will make me change my playstyle. I am neutral here for now.

 

Leopard 1

I really like those changes for Leopard 1. I really like high shell velocity AP rounds and with amazing new penetration value it will help to penetrate targets on long distances. Higher top speed makes it easier to repossition. Lower HP is good trade because you shouldn't expose yourself in this vehicle in first place.

 

AMX 30b

I liked old AMX 30b. After first rebalance this vehicle was meh with its really poor penetration and accuracy. New changes are really nice, because with better pen and accuracy it will be really deadly with its DPM.

 

430U

I thing nerf to gun is good and well deserved. It still will be best armored medium tank where you trade your gun stats for that armor.

 



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WG, can you buff your logics?

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View PostAsiaDawn, on 23 April 2019 - 01:22 PM, said:

Nice changes.....but nerf the freaking 430 and 430U faster .

Now..... the Chinese medium tanks....may be ? or you think they are well balanced....???????

 

We want buffs to the chinese vehicles: TD's and mediums ASAP!!!!! 

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STB-1 its more like a nerf, making acc bad and aiming also its not good. Leo 1 and 30B buffs are supergood and also 430u and 430 nerfs are needed. For example wz-120 has better gun but shittier armor, 430u vs 121 same thing. So overall this is all great news exept STB-1. You should only reconsider that.

vuque #109 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:34 PM

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And I was grinding 430u! :(


However, seems like my Leopard 1 will be in use again! :playing:

 

How about you guys, which change excites you most?



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STB-1:

- basically the current AMX 30 B, with good gun handling but low penetration and bad accuracy

 

Leopard 1:

- an overall buff, which was needed

 

AMX 30 B:

- a bit too good, if you ask me. When you previously changed it, you buffed it's gun handling but reduced the penetration and accuracy. But now you're buffing them again, so...the tank just became a lot better at everything.

 

Obj. 430 and Obj. 430U:

- nerfing the gun handling isn't what makes them OP. The Obj. 430U has better armor than some tier 10 heavy tanks, and THAT needs to be nerfed. Just take 15mm of armor off the front, and then it's fine.



Reaper13sa #111 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:38 PM

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shot_048.jpgAre people reading the STB-1 pen to be 232mm maybe read it again and a second time to let it sink in what they saying.

Edited by Reaper13sa, 23 April 2019 - 04:43 PM.


panzer_war #112 Posted 23 April 2019 - 04:39 PM

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Is it me or the STB-1 is just getting worse?

 

Also what's the point of the tier X german light now when Leopard has 70 km/h?


Edited by panzer_war, 23 April 2019 - 04:43 PM.


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Wait, 232mm pen on the STB-1?!?! This just screams "spam premium" to me, and we all know how well that goes down with us...

 

30B would be great fun to play if it wasn't for that awful cupola. Think "2nd line support" just translates to "hope that the tanks you're smashing shells into don't decide you're a squishier target than the heavy they're brawling with".

 

The 430 series nerf is 10/10 though, and I shan't moan that it's taken so long because better late than never. 

 

gg wp



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View PostVille67, on 23 April 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

The Obj. 430U has better armor than some tier 10 heavy tanks, and THAT needs to be nerfed. 

That's the point, this med is better than the IS-4



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View Postvuque, on 23 April 2019 - 03:34 PM, said:

 

How about you guys, which change excites you most?

 

Looking forward to the STB getting hyropreumatic suspension; this should make the tank feel really unique in future (apart from the fact that we will get Swedish mediums with the same mechanics, of course).

I have mixed feelings about the Leopard buff and the 430/430U nerf; some interesting ideas there and a step in the right direction, but neither of them feels like a real breakthrough.



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View Postvuque, on 23 April 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

And I was grinding 430u! :(


However, seems like my Leopard 1 will be in use again! :playing:

 

How about you guys, which change excites you most?

 

After these changes in the Leopard 1

I think i will grind Leopard 1 i love this tank (i like sniper guns:izmena:)

 

Rest in peace for 430U and tier 9 but i will not sale mine.

 

WG you have my respect you are going in the right way Good Job.



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View Postprohunter00, on 23 April 2019 - 04:31 PM, said:

 

We want buffs to the chinese vehicles: TD's and mediums ASAP!!!!! 

 

No we don't. They have their own niche already.

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In W.G. must make big fix-changes on PANTHER1 and Skorpion G.....on speed and dmg are just ridiculous.

Edited by vranas1, 23 April 2019 - 04:44 PM.


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I think it`s about time you do something about Leopard, AMX 30 and STB. Also, 430U is OP so nerfing that tank makes sense. But what doesn`t make sense is why the hell aren`t your nerfing the Patton? That tank is just as OP as the 430U! 

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View PostSend_Him_Off, on 23 April 2019 - 04:39 PM, said:

Wait, 232mm pen on the STB-1?!?! This just screams "spam premium" to me, and we all know how well that goes down with us...

 

Same applies to both STB-1 and Leopard 1. Makes me wonder what they actually want to acheive with all this :mellow:






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