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Ravager_7 #1 Posted 24 April 2019 - 03:51 PM

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How have you been doing on this line?

 

My progress is a wreck (see meme attached).. Can anyone relate?

 

Is the Foch worth all the progress? Any tips?

 

At the end of an ARL V39 currently, i'm not really convinced about the "fun" in this tree line.

Darn that meddling turret on ARL! :izmena:

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depressed_jellyfish #2 Posted 24 April 2019 - 03:56 PM

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I'm on the AMX AC 46 and boy, is that tank boring...

wEight_Tanker #3 Posted 24 April 2019 - 04:00 PM

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Haven't played that much. My last one was SAu 40. Decided to grind it up then sell it. It's a bad steel can but I enjoyed derping some players. Not sure if the bathtub and forward would be worth it since I've got other better tanks to grind.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 24 April 2019 - 04:01 PM

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Which gun did you use on the ARL, the top 90mm or the 105mm with full APCR? :)

 

Tier 7 got really bad gun handling but it's playable.

 

Tier 8 is good with the top gun.

 

Tier 9 is the highlight of this line and i suggest staying there. You stay alive trying to find targets you can clip without losing too much HP early in the battle, that's basically it.

 

French guns will rarely hit when not fully aimed so try to position yourself comfortably so you can take your time to ambush.



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At least they have autoloaders now, it's something.

 

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View Postdepressed_jellyfish, on 24 April 2019 - 04:56 PM, said:

I'm on the AMX AC 46 and boy, is that tank boring...

 

Uhh but I'm so excited about it...:(

But if I may ask, what is so boring about it? Is it sluggish?



depressed_jellyfish #7 Posted 24 April 2019 - 04:36 PM

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View PostRavager_7, on 24 April 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

 

Uhh but I'm so excited about it...:(

But if I may ask, what is so boring about it? Is it sluggish?

It has okay mobility, but gun handling is somewhat awful and only slightly better gun traverse arc than ARL.

At least you can troll bounce poorly aimed shots. 



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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 24 April 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

Haven't played that much. My last one was SAu 40. Decided to grind it up then sell it. It's a bad steel can but I enjoyed derping some players. Not sure if the bathtub and forward would be worth it since I've got other better tanks to grind.

 

I agree, there are far better tanks then French TD's. But they have a certain charm to it. Every tank has trade-offs, but french TD's just take it to a new level, example: "Great you get a fantastic gun at tier 6, good pen, damage ect., although sucks to be you, cause you have a giant tumor on top of you.." :teethhappy:

 

View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 24 April 2019 - 05:01 PM, said:

Which gun did you use on the ARL, the top 90mm or the 105mm with full APCR? :)

 

Tier 7 got really bad gun handling but it's playable.

 

Tier 8 is good with the top gun.

 

Tier 9 is the highlight of this line and i suggest staying there. You stay alive trying to find targets you can clip without losing too much HP early in the battle, that's basically it.

 

French guns will rarely hit when not fully aimed so try to position yourself comfortably so you can take your time to ambush.

 

I use the top 90mm, because the 105mm lacks pen on regular shells. That's true, APCR and 105 would be better, but $$$... I'm trying to not lose credits as I have too much tanks still in need to buy, but no dough.

Nevertheless I'll make it a go a few rounds and calculate the bankruptcy. :teethhappy:

And thanks for the tips on future tiers.

 

About the guns. I am starting to see that yes. Was quite shocked when I found out Soviet guns aren't the only loose cannons lol!

 

View PostCobra6, on 24 April 2019 - 05:07 PM, said:

At least they have autoloaders now, it's something.

 

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You mean tier X has an autoloader? As far as I know mle. 48 ain't pooping shells as fast as an AMX 50 120 :justwait:
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View Postdepressed_jellyfish, on 24 April 2019 - 05:36 PM, said:

It has okay mobility, but gun handling is somewhat awful and only slightly better gun traverse arc than ARL.

At least you can troll bounce poorly aimed shots. 

 

Oh dear god the gun arc, not again! Well this sucks...

If you still haven't tried, maybe you can mount it with a gun laying drive, a rammer and improved ventilation. It can get you a small kick up for the gun.

At least the armor is OK, unlike on ARL..



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All of them starting from tier 8 have autoloaders. The same 120mm with the same pen but with 3 shells in tier 8, 4 shells in tier 9 and 6 shells in tier 10. The upper glacier is quite good on all of them but that shoot-me-here sign on top (commander cupola) is huge and hard to miss especially in close range.

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 24 April 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

All of them starting from tier 8 have autoloaders. The same 120mm with the same pen but with 3 shells in tier 8, 4 shells in tier 9 and 6 shells in tier 10. The upper glacier is quite good on all of them but that shoot-me-here sign on top (commander cupola) is huge and hard to miss especially in close range.

 

I saw it now yes. Cobra6 was right then, they do have autoloaders. I'm a sucker for autoloaders. Don't know why, but I'm pretty good with them, love the heavy tank autoloader line.

Even though I've been playing the game for 6 years, I've been in and out, you know, the kind of love-hate relationship. Must have missed the news when they changed in to autoloaders.

 

I do agree with the cupola, shame, although some tanks have it much worse.



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View Postdepressed_jellyfish, on 24 April 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

 bounce poorly aimed shots. 

 

*note* poorly aimed shots. the AC 46 has terrible armour in reality and has a huge weakspot on its roof that you couldn't miss if you shot it from mars...

View PostRavager_7, on 24 April 2019 - 04:41 PM, said:

 

I agree, there are far better tanks then French TD's. But they have a certain charm to it. Every tank has trade-offs, but french TD's just take it to a new level, example: "Great you get a fantastic gun at tier 6, good pen, damage ect., although sucks to be you, cause you have a giant tumor on top of you.." :teethhappy:

 

 

I use the top 90mm, because the 105mm lacks pen on regular shells. That's true, APCR and 105 would be better, but $$$... I'm trying to not lose credits as I have too much tanks still in need to buy, but no dough.

Nevertheless I'll make it a go a few rounds and calculate the bankruptcy. :teethhappy:

And thanks for the tips on future tiers.

 

About the guns. I am starting to see that yes. Was quite shocked when I found out Soviet guns aren't the only loose cannons lol!

 

 

You mean tier X has an autoloader? As far as I know mle. 48 ain't pooping shells as fast as an AMX 50 120 :justwait:
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Oh dear god the gun arc, not again! Well this sucks...

If you still haven't tried, maybe you can mount it with a gun laying drive, a rammer and improved ventilation. It can get you a small kick up for the gun.

At least the armor is OK, unlike on ARL..

 

essentially, the ARL is probably only saved by that 105mm, beyond that, the T7 is utter tripe and the T8 is where it finally pays off because of the autoloader

arguably, the platform is terrible, so the best thing to do is max its camo out.

 

whatever you do though, don't play any of these tanks stock.. run them with as much camouflage as you can (yes, net works)

 

French guns go from one extreme to the other, 105mm and 120mm's are far better, while 90mm and 100mm guns suck so bad

never use 90mm or 100mm French guns IMO, accuracy is awful and they pay for it with pitiful alpha and slow reloads. run the 105mm and aim. (I mean it) 175mm AP (or is it still 165 on the TD variant? ) is still capable at T6. hey, some T7's barely have more than that, and they don't usually get 300 alpha, and 220 pen and 330 alpha on gold, and generally don't get your accuracy if they do.

and do not for the love of god run them with GLD! do you know how that equipment actually works? you have to be stationary, gun stationary and not moving. which basically makes this kit useless for all but arty and derp guns

 

AC 48, Foch and Foch B, all get the same autoloader, only the shell capacity of the reload changes, 3,4 and 6 respectively. 

 

gun arc sucks on all casemate TD's tbh, but atleast you aren't a slug when it comes to traverse rate, even the 46 isn't a failure in that regard either, even if the rest of the TD is.

 

armour will suck just like the ARL :P

 

View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 24 April 2019 - 04:54 PM, said:

All of them starting from tier 8 have autoloaders. The same 120mm with the same pen but with 3 shells in tier 8, 4 shells in tier 9 and 6 shells in tier 10. The upper glacier is quite good on all of them but that shoot-me-here sign on top (commander cupola) is huge and hard to miss especially in close range.

 

^ that

don't rely on the armour *at all*. generally it doesn't work and you have a huge cupola on your roof.. and in the case of the AC 48, you have 2, 1 at the front, and 1 at the back with 2 machine guns in it....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostRavager_7, on 24 April 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

How have you been doing on this line?

 

My progress is a wreck (see meme attached).. Can anyone relate?

 

Is the Foch worth all the progress? NO

 

Any tips? CAMO - the armour does not work

 

At the end of an ARL V39 currently, i'm not really convinced about the "fun" in this tree line. - There is none. Has to rate as one of the most disappointing tech trees in game.

Darn that meddling turret on ARL! :izmena:

 



breeeze #13 Posted 24 April 2019 - 06:27 PM

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ARL V39 - actually not that bad, but only if you use the 105 and spam full APCR.

AMX AC 46 - absolutely utter trash. going from ARL to AC 46 is similar to going from M4 45 to 65t, they lose the 105mm option so the only guns left are typical french garbage potato launchers that trade every single stat for high base pen, and slow down massively for a tiny bit of armor that rarely does anything. Play x5s, use blueprints, spend free XP, do anything possible to reduce this grind.

AMX AC 48 - no, it doesn't get better at tier 8. I'm not even sure adding the autoloader was a buff at all. It used to at least be able to play scuffed paper sniper, now you are forced to go brawl in a tank with trash dpm, so low clip damage you can't kill anything, zero armor and so few hp trading one shot for a clip is not a good option.

Foch/Foch B - it gets a lot better, but they are still very awkward to play because the platform is very poor for the playstyle.



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View PostRavager_7, on 24 April 2019 - 02:51 PM, said:

French tank destroyer line

 

Is the Foch worth all the progress? Any tips?

 

At the end of an ARL V39 currently, i'm not really convinced about the "fun" in this tree line.

 

 



MarcoStrapone #15 Posted 24 April 2019 - 07:11 PM

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dont bother bcz no one play with that anyway. invest russian, this is the past. present and future of this game.

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The ARL v39 with full gold (faster shell, higher penetration ánd 10% more alpha) 105mm gun can deal proper amounts of damage actually. Im currently (this grind is taking 4 years already) at the amx 46. It has effectively a lower alpha damage than the tier 6. The reload and gun handling is really bad. The frontal hull isnt too bad, but the sheer size of the thing and its weak spots make it really hard to rely on the armor.

I played the amx 48 on a friend's account. 1000 hit points, dubious armor, terrible gun handling and a epicly long reload. No thank you, I'll stick with my Charioteer.

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View PostCobra6, on 24 April 2019 - 03:07 PM, said:

At least they have autoloaders now, it's something.

 

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"Now"?

 

They did not have them in the past?



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Oh boy are you in for a ride. :D

 

I'm still some 10k from the top gun on the tier8 and jeez louise, I just wish I had stayed on the tier5. 



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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 24 April 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

Haven't played that much. My last one was SAu 40. Decided to grind it up then sell it. It's a bad steel can but I enjoyed derping some players. Not sure if the bathtub and forward would be worth it since I've got other better tanks to grind.

 

The bathtub is a fantastic tank and in my humble opinion it's definitely a keeper in it's tier.

As for the others, i only got to the tier 7 (which i didn't like at all) at which point they nerfed the Foch 155 so i dropped the line alltogether.



hasnainrakha57 #20 Posted 26 April 2019 - 02:00 PM

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Dont have any of those but tier 10 is useless with ap in tier 10 mm that tank is full gold ammo.





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