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thePhilX #1 Posted 25 April 2019 - 11:22 AM

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Greetings Commanders,

 

Today the VK 75.01 (K), a tier VIII Premium German heavy tank will enter the Supertest.

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Gameplay-wise, it could be described as a tier-adjusted VK 45.02 (P) Ausf. B. The VK 75.01 (K) has excellent side armor and a strong glacis plate with 180mm of nominal armor. The well-protected turret (250mm nominal armor in the front) utilizes a gun dealing an average of 490 damage per shot with 226mm of armor penetration with the standard round.

 

The VK 75.01 (K) is efficient at a close range, and sometimes at mid-range: this way, you can compensate for the not-so-stellar accuracy and aiming time of the gun. It’s a classic slow German heavy with a thick hide, so be careful when choosing a flank to push or defend. The VK 75.01 (K) has a decent turning rate, so running circles around it isn’t a universal go-to option for its adversaries. As for the German’s operator, the general tactic is rolling out of cover to deal damage (with enemies’ shots most likely ricocheting or being blocked by armor) and then rolling back into cover to reload. Add support from the allies to this simple play style, and you will win time after time!

 

The VK 75.01 (K) is manned by a crew of five: Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio Operator, and a Loader.

 

Please take note that the stats of the vehicle aren’t final and may change depending on test results.
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i want it just because that fuel barrel on the back looks so cool

bbmoose #3 Posted 30 April 2019 - 02:19 PM

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Why would you put this in the game as a premium, while the techtree doesn't have a good vehicle at tier 8? This is a way more suitable tier 8 for that line.

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This thing having 490 alpha is concerning and pretty unnecessary, I'd say. The Pz VII line isn't really about mega-high alpha damage, anyway. Besides, there's already the Mauerbrecher with 440 alpha, so not sure if we need another German super-heavy premium with even more alpha.

 

That and the fact it seems surprisingly mobile AND seems to have VK B-style armor layout makes me really worried.

 

A 105 mm gun from the Tiger II would suit this tank much better, or if you want to make it unique, give it something like 360 alpha instead.



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View Postbbmoose, on 30 April 2019 - 01:19 PM, said:

Why would you put this in the game as a premium, while the techtree doesn't have a good vehicle at tier 8? This is a way more suitable tier 8 for that line.

 

The VK75.01(K) could have been a nice addition to the tech tree line of the Pz.Kpfw. VII, that's true. But the VK 100.01 (P) as a comparable tier VIII tech tree super heavy also has clear advantages over the VK 75.01 (K), naming the 400m viewrange (instead of 380m), 8 degree of gun depression (instead of 5), 100 additional HP as some examples. Also the different location of the turret (at the rear instead of approx. in the middle) will lead to a different play style.

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Why the constant giga-alpha tier 8s? Why does it have to use a 128? I'm hoping that at it'll at least get cut down to 440 like the other 490 alpha t8s since thats kinda worrying. That armour is also pretty worrying, assuming its upper plate has the same angles as the VK 45B, thats a 270mm effective upper plate. Mauerbrecher has the same, but with 150mm effective weakspots so I hope the case is same here. Just don't make it a premium VK P with a 220 cupola "wEaKsPoT" and a strong lower plate.

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id actually like it to have an 8,8 

 

We dont have a fast reload low alpha german prem heavy on tier 8, gun similar to T26E5 would be rather nice 



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View PostthePhilX, on 30 April 2019 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

The VK75.01(K) could have been a nice addition to the tech tree line of the Pz.Kpfw. VII, that's true. But the VK 100.01 (P) as a comparable tier VIII tech tree super heavy also has clear advantages over the VK 75.01 (K), naming the 400m viewrange (instead of 380m), 8 degree of gun depression (instead of 5), 100 additional HP as some examples. Also the different location of the turret (at the rear instead of approx. in the middle) will lead to a different play style.

 

The VK100.01 leads to the Maus. I was talking about the VK45.02 at tier 8. That thing is a more mobile, borderline heavium with a front mounted turret. It's leading tot the VK4502 at tier 9, which has it's turret at the back. It makes way more sense to have that VK72.01 at tier 8, so you have basically the same playstyle from tier 8 to tier 10.

 

Just give the VK4502 at tier 8 the 105 of the Tiger II and make it a premium instead. You know that it makes more sense this way. Putting that VK72.01 out there as a premium is a shameless moneygrab if the techtree isn't complete.


Edited by bbmoose, 30 April 2019 - 02:48 PM.


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View PostthePhilX, on 30 April 2019 - 03:31 PM, said:

 

The VK75.01(K) could have been a nice addition to the tech tree line of the Pz.Kpfw. VII, that's true. But the VK 100.01 (P) as a comparable tier VIII tech tree super heavy also has clear advantages over the VK 75.01 (K), naming the 400m viewrange (instead of 380m), 8 degree of gun depression (instead of 5), 100 additional HP as some examples. Also the different location of the turret (at the rear instead of approx. in the middle) will lead to a different play style.

 

I don't get it. the VK 100.01 (P) is from the Maus-Branch. I liked the VK100 and i think it's a good Tier 8. But why does it affect the choice of the Tier VIII of the Pz VII branch?

 

The VK45.02A is a mobile, but poorly armored heavy tank which doesn't fit the branch at all.


Edited by Anna_Kalashnikova, 30 April 2019 - 02:48 PM.


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View PostFluffyRedFox, on 30 April 2019 - 01:35 PM, said:

Why the constant giga-alpha tier 8s? Why does it have to use a 128? I'm hoping that at it'll at least get cut down to 440 like the other 490 alpha t8s since thats kinda worrying. That armour is also pretty worrying, assuming its upper plate has the same angles as the VK 45B, thats a 270mm effective upper plate. Mauerbrecher has the same, but with 150mm effective weakspots so I hope the case is same here. Just don't make it a premium VK P with a 220 cupola "wEaKsPoT" and a strong lower plate.

 

I agree. The tier 10 isn't about alpha, so don't make the tier 8 that way. Give it the same playstyle. I hate the big alpha at tier 8, it makes the game dumb. We don't need more Defenders. Make sure that it has proper weakspots, like a lower frontplate that is penetratable for the lower tier tanks it meets.
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View PostAnna_Kalashnikova, on 30 April 2019 - 01:47 PM, said:

 

I don't get it. the VK 100.01 (P) is from the Maus-Branch. I liked the VK100 and i think it's a good Tier 8. But why does it affect the choice of the Tier VIII of the Pz VII branch?

 

The VK45.02A is a mobile, but poorly armored heavy tank which doesn't fit the branch at all.

 

Totally agree. Just make the VK45.02 A a new premium. Buff it a bit and sell it as a premium with a unique heavium playstyle. I would buy it. The VK72.01 should be the tier 8 tank of the VK72.02 line. That will make the game better.

 

Don't go for the moneygrab for once. Do something good for the long term.


Edited by bbmoose, 30 April 2019 - 02:55 PM.


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It would be enough to make it a "special" vehicle, like they did with the FV 215's or the Foch...

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Don't understand that people are against it while nothing is confirmed yet and also there are still a lot of stats that we don't know yet. I love the looks of it and will definitely buy it if it enters the game. BTW: Who would ever buy the vk 4502A as a prem? :D

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So here are the hidden stats -


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You have to be kidding me...have you got completely insane WG? Why is this tank the same tier as Tiger II, T32 etc...? This is basically a tier 9 tank with tier 8 tank matchmaking.

Edited by Toni112007, 30 April 2019 - 06:08 PM.


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Oooh, German marathon next! :great:

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So from what tunnel or WG's "other dark place" has this tank been found?

 

What amazes me the most is how a multi-million company with years worth of experience can be so short-sighted? What's the end-game content, if every nation's best tier 8 is a premium, and some tier 10s are utterly broken?

 

Best tier 8s:

LT: LT-432
MT: Lorr 40t or Spaghetti

HT: Defender (My bad, this list is about tier 8s) Somua SM and most likely this abomination.

TD: SU-130 or Skorpion G

Clicker: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw these soon. Perhaps a wheeled one with an autocannon?

 

Due to WG's policy of "We aren't nerfing premium tank", the only way is to balance tier 8s. And if the tech tree tanks became as strong as these, tier 6 and tier 7 tanks are royally Kappa'd. The hole is dug, the trap is set. This would lead to a total re-balance of all tech tree tanks - and we know WG will not be doing that, as it doesn't net them direct instant income.

 

After the joy of constantly facing those with Tiger IIs, T32s and VK45As, you'll end up fighting against 907s, 260s, 279s, 430s, S.Conquerors and Bobjects. Enjoy.


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View Postbbmoose, on 30 April 2019 - 01:52 PM, said:

Totally agree. Just make the VK45.02 A a new premium. Buff it a bit and sell it as a premium with a unique heavium playstyle. I would buy it. The VK72.01 should be the tier 8 tank of the VK72.02 line. That will make the game better.

 

Don't go for the moneygrab for once. Do something good for the long term.

 

I had to suffer through the "VK45.02 A" very recently and I would prefer if WG doesn't remove it from the tech tree so other people can suffer as i have. Not biased.

 

This premium won't be very special if the lower plate is garbage, otherwise it will be a high alpha slow Chrysler K.



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View Post_Sensation_, on 30 April 2019 - 03:08 PM, said:

Don't understand that people are against it while nothing is confirmed yet and also there are still a lot of stats that we don't know yet. I love the looks of it and will definitely buy it if it enters the game. BTW: Who would ever buy the vk 4502A as a prem? :D

 

If they give it the 105 of the Tiger II, I would buy it for shure. It would be the more mobile sniping heavium. Sounds like fun to me.

 

However, my point is that WG say they want more 'branche consistency'. That's why they changed the Object 263 and Badger line. And now they are planning to release the most relevant vehicle of the tech tree as a premium. They are also going to do that with the tier 8 Skoda autoloader, while they make us grind the VTU... And what about the AMX 65t? They should've made that one a premium, it totally makes no sense that we have to grind that POS, while the AMX M4 49 is a premium. And if that piece of garbage would be a premium, WG would've made it a way better vehicle.

 

They are doing such a bad job with this.

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View PostDenisian, on 30 April 2019 - 08:25 PM, said:

This premium won't be very special if the lower plate is garbage, otherwise it will be a high alpha slow Chrysler K.

 

The lowerplate don't have to be garbage. But they don't have to make it like 220 mm effective, like the Defender has. The Defender's 'weakspot' is stronger than the Tiger II's best armored parts...

 

And besides, if you sidescrape with a rear turreted tank, you don't have to expose your LFP. And a weaker LFP is totally workable, if you know how to hide or angle it.

 

Armor should be about skill (angling and positioning), not about making tanks idiotproof. The Löwe is a good example for that. Learn the bobs how to play, don't give them an edge over players that took effort to at least learn the game. Not even if they pay for it.

 

For once, make some good decisions for the long term.


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Alpha too high, unless armor is pure garbage this will wreck T8 mm even more.
When we talk about Pz 7 line, keep in mind it has lower alpha than 150 but higher than 122 and 120mm guns.
Keep it's alpha at 390 or 420 or 440...
And adjust soft stats, we don't need snapshot king with high alpha and mobile as Chrysler K.

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View Postsokolicc, on 01 May 2019 - 07:32 AM, said:

Alpha too high, unless armor is pure garbage this will wreck T8 mm even more.
When we talk about Pz 7 line, keep in mind it has lower alpha than 150 but higher than 122 and 120mm guns.
Keep it's alpha at 390 or 420 or 440...
And adjust soft stats, we don't need snapshot king with high alpha and mobile as Chrysler K.

 

Totally agree. There are already to much high alpha guns since the infestation of tier 8 by Skorpions and SU130's. With 390 it hits hard enough, it's still more than the Löwe. That tank has less armor, less apha and less DPM. And the Löwe isn't bad, it's a good example of a well balanced tank.
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View Postxx984, on 30 April 2019 - 01:44 PM, said:

id actually like it to have an 8,8 

 

We dont have a fast reload low alpha german prem heavy on tier 8, gun similar to T26E5 would be rather nice 

 

That long 88 from the Panther II with monstrous DPM would be nice indeed. Or even the Tiger II's gun with worse gunhandling and better DPM. It will totally give it a unique playstyle. There are already enough dumbass boomsticks on the battlefield.

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