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Not Your Typical Soviet Destroyer: the T-103


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Community #1 Posted 27 April 2019 - 10:27 AM

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This Soviet predator is finally out of its lair: introducing the T-103.

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aap_Spain #2 Posted 27 April 2019 - 10:33 AM

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Looks like  SU-100Y on steroids :)

 



Simona2k #3 Posted 27 April 2019 - 10:50 AM

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interesting

leggasiini #4 Posted 27 April 2019 - 10:54 AM

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I got rental for it yesterday, will probably write a full review when (or if) I 3 mark it, but here's my initial impressions:

 

Pros:

 

  • full traverseable turret is always nice
  • ridiculous penetration; premium shell is AP that rapes tier 10s like it's nothing
  • decent DPM and alpha for a turreted TD
  • good view range, can run optics and have very respectable view range
  • turret and hull side armor can troll people though this is mostly because it's still new, I guess
  • -8 gun depression, though it feels like -6 because how huge it is

 

Cons:

 

  • absolutely gigantic, bigger than FV4005 and not much smaller than something like Maus. Can't hide in bushes at all
  • no frontal armor at all, some HE shells can pen your LFP and miniboobs
  • has big, HE pennable cupola similar to Liberte, and while the turret is strong, it's a huge target and becomes cheese against +270 pen guns
  • HP pool is decent for a TD, but for something that is as humongous as a super-heavy it's really garbage actually
  • side armor seems in theory nice for sidescraping but the rounded hull shape ruins it, its like Tiger P or Type 4/5 except multiple times bigger and easier to hit
  • crappy accuracy and shell velocity, combine this with it's awful profile and camo and it really can't snipe at all
  • mobility isn't too bad but it's still pretty sluggish. Moves like a heavy tank, although at least it's more comparable to something like IS-3 than some painfully slow heavies.
  • reverse speed is garbage, combine this with it's camo, HP pool, armor profile and camo, you are most likely dead when spotted in the open
  • weak roof armor - while it's armor is just good enough not to get penned, arty will still absolutely wreck you
  • awkward turret placement and huge size makes poking corners really awkward

 

If you love ugly as f*ck tanks and/or are a masochist, then yes, this tank is for you. Or maybe you are one of those braindead 44%er Skorpion G drivers who always wished that their tank had some armor to bounce and even more retarded penetration, then yea, this tank could be for you. 

 

Other than that? F*ck no. It's complete garbage and the worst tier 8 premium they've introduced in years. 

 

Besides a lot of players already have the SU-130PM so there's really no point in buying this thing for most of you. I will, once my rental is over, because I have braindamage by myself and need to 3 mark it for masochistic purposes, and I just love tanks that are complete abominations visually. 

 

If this thing had 1400-1500 HP and -10 gun depression it would immediately be significantly better, and be pretty unique weirdo-heavy with great penetration + DPM + alpha but otherwise a lot worse statistics. But as of right now, don't buy it. It's actually terrible.


Edited by leggasiini, 27 April 2019 - 11:41 AM.


Max_Calibre #5 Posted 27 April 2019 - 10:58 AM

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TD/ Heavy Tank hybrid?

also its concealment rating looks bad slightly better that a Heavy Tank - a bit slow like a HT as well

 

suppose WG wants to see this 'TD' brawling around in corridors with that (for a TD) inaccurate but high alpha gun and heavy frontal Armour

nice thing its got a fully rotating Armoured Turret 



SlyMeerkat #6 Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:21 AM

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Rocket8 #7 Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:22 AM

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Love my SU-100Y but this looks like some failed frankenstein project...

Credit where it's due, first balanced premium tank to be released in months, however in the age of defenders and skorpions this might have some trouble carving out a niche in the community.

 



Gremlin182 #8 Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:24 AM

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Bit of an understated release.

I saw a 2 man platoon of them in game yesterday, checked the store but they were not for sale.

Its just odd usually WG make more of a fuss about new tanks, this one sneaked in quietly.

Normally I would be tempted but stats look pretty bad and given its armour is very average and no doubt its camo value will be awful I will wait and see how it performs.



Boris_Radijacija_86 #9 Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:25 AM

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Pass from here too

Falathi #10 Posted 27 April 2019 - 11:44 AM

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View PostMax_Calibre, on 27 April 2019 - 10:58 AM, said:

TD/ Heavy Tank hybrid?

also its concealment rating looks bad slightly better that a Heavy Tank - a bit slow like a HT as well

 

suppose WG wants to see this 'TD' brawling around in corridors with that (for a TD) inaccurate but high alpha gun and heavy frontal Armour

nice thing its got a fully rotating Armoured Turret 

 

It has some characteristics of a heavy tank so yes, I`d say that it`s more of a HT/TD hybrid built around a powerful gun. 
 

NoobySkooby #11 Posted 27 April 2019 - 12:13 PM

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I'm sure I saw on in Battle last night when I ventured into the game, saw the 103 part and though it was the American one, but no it was one of these monstrosities, need better tanks than this WG if you want our money.

etody77 #12 Posted 27 April 2019 - 12:16 PM

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finally a bad soviet premium :)

UNFAIR_GAME_8 #13 Posted 27 April 2019 - 12:23 PM

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comon players pay more for the crap

Zmago5000 #14 Posted 27 April 2019 - 12:24 PM

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View Postetody77, on 27 April 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

finally a bad soviet premium :)

 

:)

Morgan_the_Reaper #15 Posted 27 April 2019 - 12:29 PM

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SU100Y and su130pm in garage...If su100y and t 50-2 make a baby they will  call it t103

 


Edited by Morgan_the_Reaper, 27 April 2019 - 12:29 PM.


TheNightFox #16 Posted 27 April 2019 - 01:02 PM

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View PostNoobySkooby, on 27 April 2019 - 12:13 PM, said:

I'm sure I saw on in Battle last night when I ventured into the game, saw the 103 part and though it was the American one, but no it was one of these monstrosities, need better tanks than this WG if you want our money.

 

Lol. Asking for OP premiums? I bet you complain about OP premiums in other threads.

 

Gg Wargaming. This is exactly what a prem tank should be.



ToodlePips #17 Posted 27 April 2019 - 01:19 PM

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I have just found out that the planned nerf of the Object 430/430U has been cancelled, and somehow this interesting little piece of information has miraculously dispelled any fancy idea I was entertaining on spending money on the game. Go figure.

Edited by ToodlePips, 27 April 2019 - 01:23 PM.


Reaper13sa #18 Posted 27 April 2019 - 01:39 PM

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LOL WG trying to de-throne the Skorpian again with this thing since the su-130pm thing failed to do that, must be painful having a German tank been the most popular and most played vs a russian thing lol!

Edited by Reaper13sa, 27 April 2019 - 01:41 PM.


SupernaturalSquid #19 Posted 27 April 2019 - 02:48 PM

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This is rubbish guys, it does not know what it wants to be.

A heavy,nope armor is not good enough.

A TD, nope its big, slow, no camo even with a good crew, the turret traverse is really slow although if you spin your hull you  can do better, its armor is a bit of a mix, it can save you for little reason other than pure luck but mostly it will let you down. Go hull down and use gun depression its 8 but as has been already said feels like 6. The turret at times is bouncy for same tier and below (don't put your faith in it) and the cupola is weak as hell and right at the front overlooking the gun making ridge line work difficult if your close to medium distance away from target, far away and the gun will troll you, its not that accurate for pure sniper work. Its view range is really good but as said before don't expect to hit a lot of long range shots (unless you shout Russia when you press the trigger, that always works). AP shells travel slow so more lead is needed at distance. Its reload is okay and has a high alpha damage.

Speed, as said above this is heavy tank slow and reverse is speed is terrible, you have to think about your shots before you fire and retreat. (And remember NO CAMO)

So where to play this Frankenstein TD/Heavy, 1st line is very risky unless blessed by the MM and RNG and player skill. 2nd line support is a mixed bag. 3rd line or sniper is probably best but gun will troll.

Honestly its a mess, it should have had some player testing/community input prior to being released. 

 

DON'T BUY it needs work and there are much better tanks to get.

 

DON'T BUY.


Edited by SupernaturalSquid, 27 April 2019 - 02:58 PM.


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I just blacklisted WG on my email account.




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