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Seijoo #1 Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:00 PM

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The released update on MT's STB-1 specifically made me kinda giggle, lowering speed and penetration and damage on this tank is ridiculous. It is not so fast at this moment, nor it can pen anything, usually you won't be able to pen any tier 10(heavies or td's) using normal shells.

This new update would be not an improve but a nerf.

 

Any ideas how to approach wot for them to reconsider this changes like they did with obj430? 



1ncompetenc3 #2 Posted 29 April 2019 - 09:45 PM

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Book a flight, travel to WG HQ and set the place on fire. They'll pretend everything is as it should be initially but sooner or later someone is going to smell the ashes and come to his senses.

 

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Pandabird #3 Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:09 PM

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I'm all for it. Its strength was always to toss shells over hilltops and slither around. Pretty sure the bloom and aim time buff will more than make up the drop in alpha

 

As for the speed change, note the increase in HP/ton. I preferred the old FV4202 over Centurion X, it had low top speed with very "slithery" mobility, this will make STB more like it


Edited by Pandabird, 29 April 2019 - 10:12 PM.


vasilinhorulezz #4 Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:14 PM

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Didn't they revert the proposed medium tank changes a while ago, or am I missing something???

 

 

 

edit. found the link

https://worldoftanks...30u-izmeneniya/

enjoy.


Edited by vasilinhorulezz, 29 April 2019 - 10:17 PM.


TungstenHitman #5 Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:22 PM

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Has any seen the changes and got excited about it or suddenly had the urge to grind that line? I doubt it and they made a bad tank worse. I'd nearly say most tier9 meds from other nations are more useful. Pit that changed T10 STB against a T9 Patton, 430, T-54, T-55A, Standard B or a Skoda T 50 and it probably has it's backside served. Even most the other T9 meds, Cent 7/1, E 50 AMX 30 etc probably wouldn't struggle much against it I'd put my money on the STB-1 losing much engagements. That's just vs T9 meds, vs it's own T10 meds in a T10 only battle? ahaha! You'd want to find a pretty bad tank tbh and of course enjoy fighting T9 and T10 heavy tanks with the alpha and pen nerf lol. It's probably the most mind blowing change I've seen it was already a pretty tame looking horse and unattractive to grind as it was. Great looking tank but... looks don't win battles.
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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 29 April 2019 - 09:14 PM, said:

Didn't they revert the proposed medium tank changes a while ago, or am I missing something???

 

 

 

edit. found the link

https://worldoftanks...30u-izmeneniya/

enjoy.

 

Just for the Russian meds I think. At least, that's all that's mentioned in that link. Unfortunately the STB-1 is Japanese so it probably still gets a kick in the teeth.

vasilinhorulezz #6 Posted 29 April 2019 - 10:39 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 29 April 2019 - 10:22 PM, said:

Just for the Russian meds I think. At least, that's all that's mentioned in that link. Unfortunately the STB-1 is Japanese so it probably still gets a kick in the teeth.

 

They reverted all the changes.

Cobra6 #7 Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:31 AM

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It is a nerf indeed because for some improvements to the gun handling you basically lose all capability to engage mid/long range.

These changes are completely idiotic especially since the only problem with the STB-1 is the atrocious gun-handling which can easily be fixed by decreasing the dispersion on hull rotation and bringing the aimtime down 0,3s. The STB-1 doesn't need any further changes and is fine the way it is.

 

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Seijoo #8 Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:36 AM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 29 April 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

Didn't they revert the proposed medium tank changes a while ago, or am I missing something???

 

 

 

edit. found the link

https://worldoftanks...30u-izmeneniya/

enjoy.

 

They reverted only for OBJ430

Solstad1069 #9 Posted 30 April 2019 - 07:57 AM

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They did this to make sure nobody touches the Jap medium line. Tier 5-6-7-8 and 9 is just as bad. Play Ruski tank not much more to add really.

OneSock #10 Posted 30 April 2019 - 09:48 AM

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They clearly had a notion to make it a front line tank, but that's simply not possible without at least an UFP buff and some other armour tweaks. 

Axelfoley666 #11 Posted 30 April 2019 - 10:09 AM

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View PostSolstad1069, on 30 April 2019 - 06:57 AM, said:

They did this to make sure nobody touches the Jap medium line. Tier 5-6-7-8 and 9 is just as bad. Play Ruski tank not much more to add really.

 

I struggle to find the motivation to grind through the Chi-Ri, the gun is pathetic seeing how it can meet T9.

Balc0ra #12 Posted 30 April 2019 - 12:47 PM

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I never did understand why they thought it was a good idea to nerf the shell speed and change normal ammo to AP on pure glass support meds. Even the Leo 1. I had a crew trained up for the STB-1 for when I wanted to buy it. Now? I doubt I will tbh. As this is what you would see in a brawler meds. Not paper meds first balanced for support.

MarcoStrapone #13 Posted 30 April 2019 - 06:24 PM

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anyway no one play with it.

JackMayer #14 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:37 AM

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I guess WG thought that they haven't enough experience hydropneumatic suspension usage on medium tanks and didn't want to make another OP unbalanced tank. On the other, they will add new Swedish mediums which are using hydropneumatic suspension. So they may have thought that firstly, players should focus on these tanks and this can be the reason. Shortly I think that STB changes won't come in this way, it's just kind of marketing strategy.

Edited by JackMayer, 01 May 2019 - 11:38 AM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 April 2019 - 11:47 AM, said:

I never did understand why they thought it was a good idea to nerf the shell speed and change normal ammo to AP on pure glass support meds. Even the Leo 1. I had a crew trained up for the STB-1 for when I wanted to buy it. Now? I doubt I will tbh. As this is what you would see in a brawler meds. Not paper meds first balanced for support.

 

WG can't accept that non-Russian mediums are able to pen the turrets of Russian meds like the 430U, 140, 62A ectc with their premium HEAT ammo.




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