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XxKuzkina_MatxX #1 Posted 01 May 2019 - 06:53 AM

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A crew member you can assign his nationality, tank class and major qualification (commander, gunner, etc.). Trained to 100% of course and with enough XP to get the 1st perk/skill.

 

  • Would you like to see that in the premium shop?
  • Would you be mad if WG did that instead of reworking the crew skills?
  • Could you wait a week or two without doing something tragic and expensive with your tankers? :)

 

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WoT_RU_Doing #2 Posted 01 May 2019 - 06:58 AM

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I'm not a fan of the crew rework suggestions I've seen so far. I thought the original idea of giving all commanders sixth sense (and presumably giving the same commander compensation toward their next skill) would have been fine.

I'm also not a fan of a universal crew.

However, when I totally retrain a crew member for gold, (e.g. light tank commander to medium tank radio operator), I don't see why WG doesn't also give us the opportunity to change nation.


Edited by WoT_RU_Doing, 01 May 2019 - 06:58 AM.


BR33K1_PAWAH #3 Posted 01 May 2019 - 07:19 AM

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  • it's a nice feature, but i don't know what is this thing you call "premium shop"
  • can't be mad at "special" people
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I wish crew perk system would be better, but i'm afraid of WG reworking it only to break it completely  :trollface:



XxKuzkina_MatxX #4 Posted 01 May 2019 - 07:36 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 May 2019 - 10:19 AM, said:

  • it's a nice feature, but i don't know what is this thing you call "premium shop"
  • can't be mad at "special" people
  • shot_005.jpg

 

 

I wish crew perk system would be better, but i'm afraid of WG reworking it only to break it completely  :trollface:

 



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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 May 2019 - 08:19 AM, said:

  • it's a nice feature, but i don't know what is this thing you call "premium shop"
  • can't be mad at "special" people
  • shot_005.jpg

 

 

I wish crew perk system would be better, but i'm afraid of WG reworking it only to break it completely  :trollface:

 

Attack of the clones :P

BR33K1_PAWAH #6 Posted 01 May 2019 - 07:55 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 May 2019 - 09:36 AM, said:

 

 



XxKuzkina_MatxX #7 Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:00 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 01 May 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

 

 

Yes i know the guy, Mike Zhivets, but why did you do that to your crew? :)

arthurwellsley #8 Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:25 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 May 2019 - 05:53 AM, said:

A crew member you can assign his nationality, tank class and major qualification (commander, gunner, etc.). Trained to 100% of course and with enough XP to get the 1st perk/skill.

 

  • Would you like to see that in the premium shop?
  • Would you be mad if WG did that instead of reworking the crew skills?
  • Could you wait a week or two without doing something tragic and expensive with your tankers? :)

 

(omg, it's a mess!)

 

Where is that guy who used to post on the forums complaining about 0% BIA crews (I cannot now even remember what he was called).

 

But to answer the OP when 0% BIA crews were introduced WG said that they would not sell them in the premium shop. Of course they have not directly been sold. However, they have been (a) available for marathons (which can be paid off), and (b) been sold in tanks such as the Cromwell B and Tiger 131, so that if you purchase one of those you get the tank and the crew, and if you purchase it again you get the crew and a credit for gold.

 

Setting up crews in the premium shop in the manner described by the OP is the thin end of the wedge to selling 0% BIA crews directly, and that's not a good thing for the game.

As to WG re-working crew skills how may players trust WG to get it right? Personally I am deeply cynical about this. Look at the mess they almost made with rubicon and giving bonuses for slogans and badges on the sides of tanks. Just because a system works in World of Ships, does not mean that it can be shifted into WoT and it will work. Some things in WoT are so old and embedded that to try and fundamentally alter them now, has the potential for disaster.

 

A few extra crew perks would be nice, such as smoke screen, seeing through smoke screen, reducing the effect of stun etc. But really not much more change.


Edited by arthurwellsley, 01 May 2019 - 08:37 AM.


Homer_J #9 Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:36 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 May 2019 - 06:53 AM, said:

A crew member you can assign his nationality, tank class and major qualification (commander, gunner, etc.). Trained to 100% of course and with enough XP to get the 1st perk/skill.

 

  • Would you like to see that in the premium shop?
  • Would you be mad if WG did that instead of reworking the crew skills?
  • Could you wait a week or two without doing something tragic and expensive with your tankers? :)

 

(omg, it's a mess!)

 

I'll refrain from splitting the quote down since I know what the forum software will do if I try.

 

No I would not like to see it but it's almost there already when you buy a Berlin tank or any other with a 0% crew.  I wouldn't bother polishing the pitchfork and lighting up the torch if it happened though.

 

I would be quite annoyed if WG did rework crew skills to any extent.  It was annoying enough last time they did that and I had 20 or so tanks to reassign skills to.  I probably still have crews sat in barracks with a part unassigned skill from back then.  Move 6th sense, that's a sensible one but will still be quite annoying since a lot of people put extra money into their commanders to get them ahead of the rest of the crew to give them that 6th sense.  I have not gone back to WoWP since they reworked equipment, i just can't be bothered with the effort.

 

I don't know what your last question is.  I often wait to retrain or reskill crews, I wait for a discount.


Edited by Homer_J, 01 May 2019 - 08:37 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #10 Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:36 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 01 May 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

Setting up crews in the premium shop in the manner described by the OP is the thin end of the wedge to selling 0% BIA crews directly, and that's not a good thing for the game.
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They are nationless too which is not funny at all for people with 4, 5 or 6 skills crew in a tank that was nerfed or powercrept into oblivion and i don't know if that new crew could be reset or not in the future!
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View PostHomer_J, on 01 May 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:

No I would not like to see it but it's almost there already when you buy a Berlin tank or any other with a 0% crew.  I wouldn't bother polishing the pitchfork and lighting up the torch if it happened though.

 

Buying a premium with a 100% crew or better is different IMO from buying a nationless crew that you can shape to your liking!

 

View PostHomer_J, on 01 May 2019 - 11:36 AM, said:

I don't know what your last question is.  I often wait to retrain or reskill crews, I wait for a discount.

 

To wait for more information about this in the next two weeks.



Del059 #11 Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:45 AM

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I wouldn't buy them myself but I have no issue with them selling nationless crew with 2 unused skills, as long as they are not a zero skill crew.  I'd prefer that to being allowed to change nationality, which will result in having one/two crews that aremoved from FotM tank to FotM tank as WG nerfs/buffs roll out.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #12 Posted 01 May 2019 - 08:49 AM

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View PostDel059, on 01 May 2019 - 11:45 AM, said:

I wouldn't buy them myself but I have no issue with them selling nationless crew with 2 unused skills, as long as they are not a zero skill crew.  I'd prefer that to being allowed to change nationality, which will result in having one/two crews that aremoved from FotM tank to FotM tank as WG nerfs/buffs roll out.

 

So you prefer putting good crews behind a paywall. Although i disagree with you, i like a man who knows what he wants.

BR33K1_PAWAH #13 Posted 01 May 2019 - 09:17 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 May 2019 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

Yes i know the guy, Mike Zhivets, but why did you do that to your crew? :)

 

Imo the best crew skin.

Pansenmann #14 Posted 01 May 2019 - 09:39 AM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 May 2019 - 06:53 AM, said:

A crew member you can assign his nationality, tank class and major qualification (commander, gunner, etc.). Trained to 100% of course and with enough XP to get the 1st perk/skill.

 

  • Would you like to see that in the premium shop?
  • Would you be mad if WG did that instead of reworking the crew skills?
  • Could you wait a week or two without doing something tragic and expensive with your tankers? :)

 

(omg, it's a mess!)

 

Crew skills should not be obtainable for $$,

one of the last things you can only get by actually playing the game.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 01 May 2019 - 08:49 AM, said:

 

So you prefer putting good crews behind a paywall. Although i disagree with you, i like a man who knows what he wants.

 

Not really its pay to remove the grind. By the time you get to tier 8 you would expect to be using 2 skill crews. All I am suggesting is that you could buy those 2 skill crews instead of grinding them, as long as they don't have a 0 skill.

 

Nice strawmanning there. as I said I wouldn't buy them so I don't really care, I was just responding to the OP.



BlueSnail #16 Posted 01 May 2019 - 09:54 AM

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These already exist in the form of female crew members, except that they are not available in the premium shop.

WoT_RU_Doing #17 Posted 01 May 2019 - 10:07 AM

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View PostBlueSnail, on 01 May 2019 - 08:54 AM, said:

These already exist in the form of female crew members, except that they are not available in the premium shop.

 

Not quite...they are not universal...once assigned, they are restricted to that nation

PayMore #18 Posted 01 May 2019 - 10:13 AM

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I thinks swedish/the global tech tree should have no nationality restriction  since that is not inline with that country is all about.

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Guess I'm OK with it as long as they aren't crews with a "free" skill, that'd cross the pay to win barrier for me. Those crews are rare and not otherwise simply grindable in the game. I wouldn't really be interested in buying them though.

 

I'd prefer it if they reworked the crewskills. I think the current crew skill grind is unnecessarily harsh, I'd like it if they tweaked the experience necessary per skill, especially from the second or third skill onwards. Alternatively allow crews to perform at 100% in tanks they've been trained for before, because I'm getting really tired of grinding crews and skills again and again for the next tank. The system seems geared towards moving your crews up while grinding lines, but it leaves your old tanks without the crews you need to drive them properly.

 

I can understand the system from when there were a few nations and a few lines, but these days with all the added tanklines and nations, it just feels disproportionally grindy.



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I wouldn't be for this idea.





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