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Geoffrey_Ironfist #1 Posted 01 May 2019 - 10:52 AM

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There is this type of mission for the Excalibur campaign that totally stamps me: block more damage than the hitpoints of your vehicle - or even worse: block two times (!) more damage than the hitpoints of your vehicle.

 

I have played probably hundreds of battles while on such missions, but I never even got close. Have any of you completed such a mission? Do you have any suggestions?



Dr_Blackshark #2 Posted 01 May 2019 - 10:59 AM

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In this goldspam meta, they are almost impossible to complete in the high tiers. For the russian block missions, I'd suggest trying with the T-150, for the Block....well....OI

Orkbert #3 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:24 AM

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Personally I've found that the AT8 isn't too shabby when it comes to blocking damage.

 

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Geoffrey_Ironfist #4 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:25 AM

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I have a few premium heavies I have tried (IS-2, KV-122, KV-2® and the Defender), I got them for this mission but they failed. I have not researched any heavies apart from the KV-1. Maybe I could get the Russian T-150, as you suggest.

 

Any tricks besides playing a heavy tank? Like inviting arty by sitting out into the open? Something like that?



Dorander #5 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:27 AM

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Sure, done it frequently in the Maus or VK4502B, or even the VK1001. Blocking your hp once is pretty common in superheavies, blocking it twice significantly less common. I've done the HT-15 missions for the original campaigns in tanks like that, the easy ones purely on block, the less easy ones combining block and damage. Still need to do Obj260, haven't gotten to that one yet.
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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

 

Any tricks besides playing a heavy tank? Like inviting arty by sitting out into the open? Something like that?

 

Arty fires HE with splash damage at you, that damage pretty much never counts as blocked. You need to bait AP shells.



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For the russian one bouncing twice your hp 4 times i alternated between the defender and obj257. Managed to get mines top tier with no arty in the defender so went to the rock at the base of the hill and did it fairly easily.

If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #7 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:30 AM

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Weird premiums do well at blocking lots of shots

The TS5 and mauerbrecher for instance

 

Strong turrets like the British 250mm turrets can get good bounce games with the right map

 

So that's the sort of thing you need to look at

 

Then you need to find a good map position the enemy wants and you are in the way so you get lots of attention

You don't even need to spot any tanks, just poop off a few times to betray your position and you will start to get speculative shots

 

Let one or two penetrate or cause damage, to keep them interested in you, turret peeks only

 

GL

 

edit: Your defender looks ideal, don't just sit there, jiggle about and be annoying, fire HE at them, they hate that

edit2 A heavy spall liner helps against arty who get interested in you


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JOSEBA_PRIME #8 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:32 AM

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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

I have a few premium heavies I have tried (IS-2, KV-122, KV-2® and the Defender), I got them for this mission but they failed. I have not researched any heavies apart from the KV-1. Maybe I could get the Russian T-150, as you suggest.

 

Any tricks besides playing a heavy tank? Like inviting arty by sitting out into the open? Something like that?

 

With Is-2, kv2 and kv122 dont Even try It. Play only defender. With defender top tier you shouldnt have any problem to block 1500, 3000 or Even 4500 with a litle bit of luck.

Orkbert #9 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:32 AM

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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

 

Like inviting arty by sitting out into the open? Something like that?

 

View PostDorander, on 01 May 2019 - 11:27 AM, said:

 

Arty fires HE with splash damage at you, that damage pretty much never counts as blocked. You need to bait AP shells.

 

 

As Dorander wrote. Heck, even a direct hit that happens to do zero damage often does not count towards blocked damage (something like HE damage gets absorbed, not blocked, or whatever the devs reason for not counting them was)

arthurwellsley #10 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:33 AM

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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 09:52 AM, said:

There is this type of mission for the Excalibur campaign that totally stamps me: block more damage than the hitpoints of your vehicle - or even worse: block two times (!) more damage than the hitpoints of your vehicle.

 

I have played probably hundreds of battles while on such missions, but I never even got close. Have any of you completed such a mission? Do you have any suggestions?

 

If you mean

Union-12. Mr. Untouchable

PRIMARY CONDITION 

Block twice more damage than the hit points of your vehicle 4 times.

SECONDARY CONDITION 

Survive the battle.

 

Then I would recommend tier VII USSR tech tree SU-100M1. The SU-100M1 when top tier is virtually immune to many tier V tank guns front on, and once the SU is angled it bounces lots of incoming shots, and twice it's limited hit points is completely trivial.


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Homer_J #11 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:37 AM

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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 10:52 AM, said:

There is this type of mission for the Excalibur campaign that totally stamps me: block more damage than the hitpoints of your vehicle - or even worse: block two times (!) more damage than the hitpoints of your vehicle.

 

I have played probably hundreds of battles while on such missions, but I never even got close. Have any of you completed such a mission? Do you have any suggestions?

 

Bought back the O-I and put the Type 5 crew in without even retraining, did it in about 10 battles while also increasing my win rate and getting the first MoE.  Just go sit somewhere you will get spotted and let people snipe you from long range, it will even bounce Russian 122mm guns and you don't need many of those to get the total.  If start getting arty attention then GTFO.  Once you have the bounces done then play properly.

 

And used the SU-100M1 for the same mission on that set of tanks.  With that you can get up front with the heavies, hide your LFP and sidescrape a bit.


Edited by Homer_J, 01 May 2019 - 11:38 AM.


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There are even missions that require you to block 3x your hit points. Blocking your own amount of hp shouldn't be that hard in many tanks. Even medium tanks.

Homer_J #13 Posted 01 May 2019 - 11:40 AM

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View PostJOSEBA_PRIME, on 01 May 2019 - 11:32 AM, said:

 

With Is-2, kv2 and kv122 dont Even try It. Play only defender. With defender top tier you shouldnt have any problem to block 1500, 3000 or Even 4500 with a litle bit of luck.

 

The problem with the Defender is that when they see you they find something else to shoot.

TheDrownedApe #14 Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:04 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 01 May 2019 - 10:39 AM, said:

There are even missions that require you to block 3x your hit points. Blocking your own amount of hp shouldn't be that hard in many tanks. Even medium tanks.

 

 

But when you see he bought the KV-2R to try and complete this mission you know it's a lost cause.


 

OP - Arthur has the answer - for the Excal and the Chim too



Dava_117 #15 Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:11 PM

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I completed those mission quite easily. Just take into account a couple of things:

Use an armoured tank the enemy have chance to pen. No one will shot at an hull down IS-7 or SConqueror, except if they can fire high caliber HE shells, that don't count. Your best choice is a boxy tank, like the KV tanks or many german HTs. As already said for the soviet set, T-150 is probably the best choice. I used it and KV-4 mainly. But, as already mentioned, also SU-100M1 is a good choice, because many at tier 5 and 6 still don't have the knowledge about armour layout and tend to shoot even with 0 chance to pen.

Also priorize tanks that can pen you easily, leaving the one bouncing shell after shell on you as last.



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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 01 May 2019 - 12:04 PM, said:

 

 

But when you see he bought the KV-2R to try and complete this mission you know it's a lost cause.


 

OP - Arthur has the answer - for the Excal and the Chim too

 

Lost cause describes it well so far. I also bought those premiums to train my KV-1 crew, which is the only researchable heavy tank I have. I thought between them they might help me complete all sorts of heavy tank missions, as I do not have any other heavy tanks crews. The SU100-M1 will set me back 1,365,000 - other than that maybe worth a try.



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At low tiers the AT8 is great for this especially if top tier....

ZAPPED_BY_ME #18 Posted 01 May 2019 - 12:42 PM

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The 1st set of missions, stug-260 encourages having a variety of tanks per class.

The 2nd set of missions, Excalibur-279, encourages having a variety of tanks per nation.

 

 



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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:

 

 I thought between them they might help me complete all sorts of heavy tank missions,

 

They will, just not this one.:playing:



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View PostGeoffrey_Ironfist, on 01 May 2019 - 11:14 AM, said:

 

Lost cause describes it well so far. I also bought those premiums to train my KV-1 crew, which is the only researchable heavy tank I have. I thought between them they might help me complete all sorts of heavy tank missions, as I do not have any other heavy tanks crews. The SU100-M1 will set me back 1,365,000 - other than that maybe worth a try.

 

That's funny, I got the defender specifically for this mission and didn't take more than 2 attempts.

 

Retarded that I have to buy a premium tank just to get the mission complete. Then again in the current age of WoT, the mission itself is retarded.






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