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TheDrownedApe #1 Posted 03 May 2019 - 09:04 AM

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So anyone not upgraded the turret?

 

I see the stock one has 105mm of frontal armour against the 70mm of the top one. Yes the top turret has better everything else but as Tanks.gg is broken i can't check the armour angles etc on them.

 

nvm just checked and the top turret is half the size so it's a no brainer (prolly was anyway)

 


Edited by TheDrownedApe, 03 May 2019 - 10:56 AM.


mani_GGr #2 Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:19 PM

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Turret doesn't matter, this tank is too trash anyway :arta:

TheDrownedApe #3 Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:39 PM

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View Postmani_GGr, on 03 May 2019 - 06:19 PM, said:

Turret doesn't matter, this tank is too trash anyway :arta:

 

don't say that, i was looking forward to some armour after the paper T8 (but waiting till tomorrow for the crew discount) :arta:

mani_GGr #4 Posted 03 May 2019 - 10:03 PM

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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 03 May 2019 - 07:39 PM, said:

 

don't say that, i was looking forward to some armour after the paper T8 (but waiting till tomorrow for the crew discount) :arta:

 

The T9 UDES is super-bad, basically the same as T8 (30 more alpha and 10 pen - yay), but a tier higher. 

0 workable armor, cannot brawl or play aggressively in general at all. Meant be a sniper, well, have fun with that when you have 230/260 pen and low dpm <laughs in 430>



STRANGE_BREW1 #5 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:25 AM

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I'm still grinding the tier 8 on live server but I disagree completely. It's a ridge line warrior, managed 2 7k games vs premium ammo spamming tier 10s on the test server, its a completely different tank to the 430, to compare them is ridiculous. 

mani_GGr #6 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:37 AM

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View PostSTRANGE_BREW1, on 04 May 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

I'm still grinding the tier 8 on live server but I disagree completely. It's a ridge line warrior, managed 2 7k games vs premium ammo spamming tier 10s on the test server, its a completely different tank to the 430, to compare them is ridiculous. 

T8 is great indeed, but t9 is a big no-no. 



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View Postmani_GGr, on 04 May 2019 - 10:37 AM, said:

T8 is great indeed, but t9 is a big no-no. 

Sorry I should have clarified that was with the tier 9 on test server my performance with the tier 8 is lacklustre. You're clearly more skilled than I so probably down to my gameplay that I'm not doing well with it. 



klorakete #8 Posted 08 May 2019 - 02:15 PM

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The Udes 16 is nice and much better than the Tier 8. More alpha and less reload. It can bounce a Lot. The 2nd turret is nearly unpenetrable unless they hit the weakspots. You can play it hull down very agressive. The pen is not that great but ok. 

Edited by klorakete, 08 May 2019 - 08:19 PM.


Kothaar #9 Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:26 PM

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The tier 8 is completely situational. On maps with ridges it performs somewhat, the high view range allows it to sometimes spot for other players. It is not unusual to have more spotting damage in this tank than damage from your gun.

No armor, of course. And you will experience getting spotted on weird ranges and places on some maps while not seeing your opponent at all. This is strange in a vehicle which has almost 500 meters view range with binoculars installed.

The 90 mm guns are both lacklustre, the 105 mm on paper does not seem any better, could be even worse since it shoots much slower (the 90 mm is already a slow shooter and aimer). If it is supposed to snipe, well it cannot, at least half of the shots simply take a crazy angle and miss. Its gun has a large report, and since it can only reverse at about 25 km per hour, quick opponents can easily destroy it even if it tries to peek-a-boo over a ridgeline. On several maps it will be spotted from behind bushes even before it fired its gun.

It is horrible at close range, tanks 2 tiers lower than it can easily destroy it in close range battle.

You cannot win battles on your own in this vehicle, like you sometimes could with for example IS tank.

It somewhat works as a defensive vehicle as a part of a team. Just pray that your team mates do not get destroyed, since fighting alone, it is quickly spotted and destroyed.

I guess that the designers of WOT are running out of ideas. The combination of nonexistent armor, weak, inaccurate and unreliable gun and slowish movement make this a useless vehicle, a gimmick for people who want to try every tank in the game. There are dozens of more effective tanks in the game.

The UDES tank destroyer from the same tier sports an excellent gun, better armor, camo value of 20 points higher and moves faster. It can take on several tanks and win. Every time I drive the Udes 14 I wonder why am I doing this, since I could be driving the Swedish tank destroyer and actually enjoying the game.

Edited by Kothaar, 08 May 2019 - 11:33 PM.


superfly2000 #10 Posted 10 May 2019 - 10:18 AM

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I don't have the top turret yet and yes...there are a lot of soft stats and even size and whatnot that seems to be better with the top turret...but by all means...the stock turret IS actually bouncing some shots...remains to see if the top turret can do that also...

 

I agree both the tier 8 and 9 are not super tanks or OP by any means but I still like them and although situational...I've been able to pull of amazing spottting play at times and I guess that is something most players don't know how to do...in general....and hence maybe dismissing them....


Edited by superfly2000, 10 May 2019 - 10:19 AM.





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