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Medium Tanks Rebalance (Supertest): Second Iteration


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WindSplitter1 #41 Posted 11 May 2019 - 10:02 PM

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View Postdepressed_jellyfish, on 11 May 2019 - 08:04 PM, said:

 

I don't know what you're talking about... :unsure:

 

"It's like having a TD with a huge alpha damage with premium rounds and nerfing its mobility and gun handling while leaving its damage intact. Now that would be a joke! "

 

Exactly what they did with the British Tier X Direct fire SPG TD FV YOU ARE DEAD 4005



Gkirmathal #42 Posted 12 May 2019 - 10:49 AM

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I still amazed why they consistently ignore, or fail to mention, anything about the 121, or the Chinese medium line as a whole.

Also if there is one nations tech tree that has been shunted, disregarded and not spoken in sentence when talking about under performing mediums (at tier X) of for a long time it is that one.



AsiaDawn #43 Posted 13 May 2019 - 08:54 AM

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View PostGkirmathal, on 12 May 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

I still amazed why they consistently ignore, or fail to mention, anything about the 121, or the Chinese medium line as a whole.

Also if there is one nations tech tree that has been shunted, disregarded and not spoken in sentence when talking about under performing mediums (at tier X) of for a long time it is that one.

 

Dont forget this is Russian game....do not expect ANY love for chinese medium tanks..cause they are copies of rus tanks...

Just sell everything Chinese(except WZ 111 5a tier 10 and may be tier 9 HT)..and go Russia. 

#sorry



S21_Centurio #44 Posted 14 May 2019 - 05:32 PM

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Well,

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2019/05/13/sta-2-rebalance-update/

 

So "rebalance" means nerfing a medicore (sub-performing) tank?

 

If you straight nerf the STA-2 we will have the same "refund" situation we had with the Superpershing and that one was really "rebalanced" with nerf and buffs. I really wonder If you guys know what you are doing (taken the 430U un-nerf into account)...



Hezs #45 Posted 14 May 2019 - 07:01 PM

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I think wg guys are just big puss#as# cowards. Gold ammo rebalance, scrapped. Nerf to OP  russian tanks, obj 430 430u, scrapped. And now buffs to sta-2, pretty much scrapped.



K1Lc4m #46 Posted 14 May 2019 - 07:12 PM

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View PostS21_Centurio, on 14 May 2019 - 05:32 PM, said:

Well,

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2019/05/13/sta-2-rebalance-update/

 

So "rebalance" means nerfing a medicore (sub-performing) tank?

 

If you straight nerf the STA-2 we will have the same "refund" situation we had with the Superpershing and that one was really "rebalanced" with nerf and buffs. I really wonder If you guys know what you are doing (taken the 430U un-nerf into account)...

 

this isn't a nerf, the change are apply to the first iteration, so this is just a little useless buff and not a good buff.

S21_Centurio #47 Posted 16 May 2019 - 06:39 PM

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@K1Lc4m

 

Yes, you are right. It is a buff. I missed that it currently has less hp/t. As a buff better power to weight is ok but not the main issue of this tank. Gun handling and performance are the issues.

I am still very sceptical about the rebalance of the japanese mediums.

I just hope they do it right and make em more enjoyable. This game needs more tankdiversity, too much russian stuff...



Master_Warmaker #48 Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:12 PM

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Vuque, can we please have an update with regards to the clearly overpowered 430U.

 

As customers (some paying some not) do you not think we deserve a reason behind the cancelled nerfs? 

 

 



blockypanzer #49 Posted 16 May 2019 - 09:54 PM

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After seeing the patchnotes for public test 1.5.1, I have a little to say:

 

Type 61. This tank has no armour, unlike the reworked STB-1. It cannot survive close range fighting like the reworked STB-1 is being made to do. Please, do not nerf the accuracy to 0.38, it will be AWFUL as a support medium with such an appalling value. Worse, it has only 30 rounds. It regularly runs out as it is, due to the awful shot dispersion and limited capacity. If you nerf the alpha to 360 like planned, please buff the ammo capacity to 45, because otherwise the damage potential becomes pathetic.

 

STA-1. Same deal. Why nerf the accuracy? The thing is a long range support medium, I will suffer from such a nerf.

 

Leopard 1. Still insisting on nerfing the traverse and reverse speeds? Why? What possible need is there for this, or the HP nerf by 100 points?

 

Indien Panzer. Please add some armour behind the mantlet....

 

Other than this, I'm pretty happy to see the new changes. Leo could use a few more buffs, but I'll take what we're getting at this point.

 



TheNightFox #50 Posted 16 May 2019 - 10:58 PM

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View PostMaster_Warmaker, on 16 May 2019 - 09:12 PM, said:

Vuque, can we please have an update with regards to the clearly overpowered 430U.

 

As customers (some paying some not) do you not think we deserve a reason behind the cancelled nerfs? 

 

 

 

No.

Johny404 #51 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:57 AM

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I like the WG logic. In case of Kranvagn they increased alpha damage and ammo capacity and in case of STB-1 and Type 61 they decreased alpha damage and do not increased ammo capacity making Type 61 with worse accuracy even more uncomfortable to play. Type 61 damage potential is the worst between tier 9 medium tanks. Not to mention some mediums has even better damage potential with stock guns and this include Type 61 where with stock gun you can deal more damage than with top gun.

Edited by LordSkyFury, 17 May 2019 - 08:00 AM.


K1Lc4m #52 Posted 17 May 2019 - 10:04 AM

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View Postblockypanzer, on 16 May 2019 - 09:54 PM, said:

After seeing the patchnotes for public test 1.5.1, I have a little to say:

 

Type 61. This tank has no armour, unlike the reworked STB-1. It cannot survive close range fighting like the reworked STB-1 is being made to do. Please, do not nerf the accuracy to 0.38, it will be AWFUL as a support medium with such an appalling value. Worse, it has only 30 rounds. It regularly runs out as it is, due to the awful shot dispersion and limited capacity. If you nerf the alpha to 360 like planned, please buff the ammo capacity to 45, because otherwise the damage potential becomes pathetic.

 

STA-1. Same deal. Why nerf the accuracy? The thing is a long range support medium, I will suffer from such a nerf.

 

Leopard 1. Still insisting on nerfing the traverse and reverse speeds? Why? What possible need is there for this, or the HP nerf by 100 points?

 

Indien Panzer. Please add some armour behind the mantlet....

 

Other than this, I'm pretty happy to see the new changes. Leo could use a few more buffs, but I'll take what we're getting at this point.

 

 

you don't understand that they want to change the role of japanese medium ? but yeah for the type 61 it will be a big nerf even if the dpm gonne take a good buff




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