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994250 #1 Posted 03 May 2019 - 06:43 PM

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Did i miss when they mentioned, that they will nerf the tier 8 O-Ho too? Last night i logged in the first time since the patch. And my O-Ho has became 4 seconds slower at reloading.

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Balc0ra #2 Posted 03 May 2019 - 06:47 PM

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No they did say ages ago it was from tier 6 and up. Tho the tier 8 seems to have gotten a derp slap bigger then even the tier 6 tbh. I get it has more armor etc. But still it was a bit to much. As I've had a few on my team of late that struggle to win vs even low tier meds with that ROF now. 

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Yes, it was all mentioned in the patch notes. The damage of HE shells has been reduced to all of them. O-Ni's and O-Ho's reload time has been increased too.

994250 #4 Posted 03 May 2019 - 06:49 PM

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Then i just missed it. 

Thank you both.

 

There goes my fav tank though.



wEight_Tanker #5 Posted 03 May 2019 - 06:52 PM

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View Post994250, on 03 May 2019 - 06:49 PM, said:

Then i just missed it. 

Thank you both.

 

There goes my fav tank though.

 

It's not a tragedy. You can still play with the 10cm which I personally prefer. Not as fun as HE spamming everyone, but still fun. :P

994250 #6 Posted 03 May 2019 - 06:55 PM

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Just wouldn't feel right.
I'm in love with the 15cm since my double kill on 0-I. qq

vixu #7 Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:16 PM

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Jap tanks were a nightmare to drive before. Armor does not work well, when its just $$$ to get more pen on your gun. Now these tanks have lost the only compensating factor they had. well... gl to those who wants to grind heavy 5

wEight_Tanker #8 Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:18 PM

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View Postvixu, on 03 May 2019 - 07:16 PM, said:

Jap tanks were a nightmare to drive before. Armor does not work well, when its just $$$ to get more pen on your gun. Now these tanks have lost the only compensating factor they had. well... gl to those who wants to grind heavy 5

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about. 

Japualtah #9 Posted 03 May 2019 - 11:13 PM

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 03 May 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about. 

 

He means type 5 gets penned 100% with gold and the 14cm gun is rubbish.

The tank isn't playable anymore, it's only worth keeping for those damage blocked missions when you're lucky enough to be top tier.

But for tier X, it's worthless, Mauss is much better.

In fact, Mauss was already better before they nuked the Type 5.

 

I don't really care, that piece of crap has never been fun to play to begin with, but WG should offer a turn-in system when they make a tank obsolete, refund XPs, reset crew, something along the line.



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View Post994250, on 03 May 2019 - 06:55 PM, said:

Just wouldn't feel right.
I'm in love with the 15cm since my double kill on 0-I. qq

 

The 10cm is better from my experience, and it offers much more flexibility in the gun depression department. :great:

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View PostPervyPastryPuffer, on 03 May 2019 - 11:29 PM, said:

The 10cm is better from my experience, and it offers much more flexibility in the gun depression department. :great:

 

I couldn't stand 10cm on O-I and henceforth didn't bother with it on O-Ni or O-Ho. Gun stats on the O-Ho definitely put me off of it (0.42 and 3.1 Aimtime, like christ, the derp isn't much worse at 0.54 and 3.3(!) Aimtime and is basically guaranteed damage every shot) and with the nerf I'll no longer bother memeing around in it. It's a good change, the less derp tanks the better, but I really wish the 10cm got a buff to the gun handling frankly.

wEight_Tanker #12 Posted 04 May 2019 - 04:11 AM

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AP guns offer more penetration and DPM than the HE guns, sure the HE guns do a heckin lot more damage when they penetrate, but it takes a lot of challenge. Combined with better accuracy and reload time, AP guns are flexible and more fun.

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 04 May 2019 - 04:11 AM, said:

AP guns offer more penetration and DPM than the HE guns, sure the HE guns do a heckin lot more damage when they penetrate, but it takes a lot of challenge. Combined with better accuracy and reload time, AP guns are flexible and more fun.

 

Tbh the derp was a lot more fun than the non-derp on O-Ho, atleast prior to the patch. 14-15 Seconds for basically a guaranteed 300-400 Damage on most tanks, more of course for the paper stuff but the full damage penetrations are nothing more than than the cherry on top of the cake. You could just pop around a corner, see a hulldown or sidescraping tank and just laugh at them. That however is broken, so the more nerfs to those guns the better, but they really should have given the 10cm a slight buff, I'm talking like 0.42 -> 0.4 and 3.1 Aimtime down to 2.8/2.9. 

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 03 May 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

I couldn't stand 10cm on O-I and henceforth didn't bother with it on O-Ni or O-Ho. Gun stats on the O-Ho definitely put me off of it (0.42 and 3.1 Aimtime, like christ, the derp isn't much worse at 0.54 and 3.3(!) Aimtime and is basically guaranteed damage every shot) and with the nerf I'll no longer bother memeing around in it. It's a good change, the less derp tanks the better, but I really wish the 10cm got a buff to the gun handling frankly.

 

While I agree the O-I's 10cm is tragic, it felt much better on the O-Ni and O-Ho. However, since the O-Ho's derp had a 15 sec reload, it was a viable option, now however, it just sucks, and the 10cm is relevant again.

 

That's WG's attempt to discourage the use of derp guns...I'd say it's working.



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View Post994250, on 03 May 2019 - 05:55 PM, said:

Just wouldn't feel right.
I'm in love with the 15cm since my double kill on 0-I. qq

 

That's the problem right there, you were having too much fun

Solstad1069 #16 Posted 04 May 2019 - 01:00 PM

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Too bad the Jap medium line also suks so no reason for the Jap nation at all.

Innapropriate_Username #17 Posted 04 May 2019 - 04:51 PM

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I think most don't even realize how much this will destroy O-Ho...

 

Type5 got some mobility so it is not only nerf (or as you might call it -a German Buff)

Type4 got some reload so again,.. not only bad.

 

But O-Ho, tank in Tier8 where every new tank has over 250-300mm Armor.

O-Ho was Tier8 Mobile "Arty", tank that could HURT sicescraping MAUS.

O-Ho was ONLY tier8 tank that could just do 400dmg to hull-down Object430U.

 

Now O-Ho is slow, it has 200mm Armor, it has no gun, no reload, no damage, it was only jap. Heavy that was "Balanced" with good-reload 15cm HE against Tier8 MM + Defenders and etc.

 

If Type5 ends up being "Not so bad" in the end of it all, - it is not worth the grind, whole line became useless crap.  

(GOOD THING NO NERFS FOR 430U THO! AT LEAST SOVIET TIER8 HAVE 250mm TURRET FRONT AND SIDES )

 



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Long story short - I played many battles with Type 5 and Oho, 1500 battles between them at least. I used to love them.

 

Played 2 battles today, sold O-Ho, sold Type 4, sold Type 5. All 3 completely uncompetitive.

 

All those 4-5 skilled crew members might as well dismiss them all.



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View PostFreetoplay_KV2, on 04 May 2019 - 09:58 PM, said:

Long story short - I played many battles with Type 5 and Oho, 1500 battles between them at least. I used to love them.

 

Played 2 battles today, sold O-Ho, sold Type 4, sold Type 5. All 3 completely uncompetitive.

 

All those 4-5 skilled crew members might as well dismiss them all.

 

Agreed.  WG has completely overreacted and gone over the top with the nerf bat. Type 5 supposed to be a super heavy, that now cannot compete with anything over T8 because they are all spamming 'special' ammo, and the 14cm cannot reliably pen anything even using the same ammo.  It would be funny, except for all the time and effort spent in achieving the thing.

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View Postsalvager, on 04 May 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

 

Agreed.  WG has completely overreacted and gone over the top with the nerf bat. Type 5 supposed to be a super heavy, that now cannot compete with anything over T8 because they are all spamming 'special' ammo, and the 14cm cannot reliably pen anything even using the same ammo.  It would be funny, except for all the time and effort spent in achieving the thing.

 

if you cant make 257 AP standard/290 AP prem not work then i suggest them to move down tiers as its pretty capable of penning things, no to mention the 14cm got handling buffs




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