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Lobotomobile #1 Posted 04 May 2019 - 09:59 AM

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I spent 15 000 bonds on my FV4005 and now WG made it basically unplayable. I cannot get those back, and WG will not refund those (ticket request rejected). It's not my fault that WG can't balance the game, but somehow I need to pay for it. This is certainly not a fair way to treat a player. 
Why WG does not refund bonds after playing around with tank stats? It's not easy to get 15 000, and how can I be sure that it will not be wasted on another tank that WG will nerf the next day?



Steiner011 #2 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:05 AM

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Bonds and  FV4005 are property of WG. You agreed to it by accepting EULA. You are just renting FV4005 indefinitely. 

 

 



Tyburn #3 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:07 AM

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You can’t be sure it won’t happen again. The best philosophy would be to assume that any tank you fall in love with WG will obliterate at some point in the future. Happens to them all unfortunately. Although not the t67 for some reason ;)

shikaka9 #4 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:08 AM

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this is one of the reason why not spend bonds on improved equipment ... everyone knows it who got burned before from this scam :)

Dava_117 #5 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:09 AM

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Last time I checked, you could demount bond equipment with 200 bonds. Just demount it and move it to another tank.

To be fair, you should have noticed the tank was a bit too strong and a nerf would have eventually come. As it arrived for Type4/5, 268v4 and so on.



Tyburn #6 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:09 AM

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You can also remove the equipment you know ... as above ...

Edited by Tyburn, 04 May 2019 - 10:11 AM.


Japualtah #7 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:12 AM

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View PostSteiner011, on 04 May 2019 - 10:05 AM, said:

Bonds and  FV4005 are property of WG. You agreed to it by accepting EULA. You are just renting FV4005 indefinitely. 

 

 

 

This is a prime example of one-sided clause, or unconscionable clause.

 

The OP claim is legitimate.

If WG sees fit to nerf a tank, fine, they have all rights to do so.

But either way you look at it, especially from a good customer relationship, drastic nerfs warrant compensation.

The player, who might have invested hard earned cash into a tank, as virtual is it may be, should be offered the opportunity to recover its investment in the form of free XPs, untrained crew, unequipped gear or the like.

 

That would look a bit less 'totalitarian'.


Edited by Japualtah, 04 May 2019 - 10:13 AM.


Dava_117 #8 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:17 AM

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View PostJapualtah, on 04 May 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

 

This is a prime example of one-sided clause, or unconscionable clause.

 

The OP claim is legitimate.

If WG sees fit to nerf a tank, fine, they have all rights to do so.

But either way you look at it, especially from a good customer relationship, drastic nerfs warrant compensation.

The player, who might have invested hard earned cash into a tank, as virtual is it may be, should be offered the opportunity to recover its investment in the form of free XPs, untrained crew, unequipped gear or the like.

 

That would look a bit less 'totalitarian'.

 

IMO is good as it is. If you invested time and money to reach a tank faster, you can use it for longer. That is your advantage. Apart from some P2W premium, the main logic of the game is pay to progress, and it's exactly what you got. You got it faster. 

barison1 #9 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:30 AM

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View PostLobotomobile, on 04 May 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

I spent 15 000 bonds on my FV4005 and now WG made it basically unplayable. I cannot get those back, and WG will not refund those (ticket request rejected). It's not my fault that WG can't balance the game, but somehow I need to pay for it. This is certainly not a fair way to treat a player. 
Why WG does not refund bonds after playing around with tank stats? It's not easy to get 15 000, and how can I be sure that it will not be wasted on another tank that WG will nerf the next day?

 

but it is your fault to not realise that broken tank might be nerfed one day which just happened to be patch 1.5

 

nevertheless just demount equipment, if you can afford 15k on equipment you surely can afford 600bondig to demount them all aswell

 

or simply dont spend bondig on equipment and save it up for bondig tank shop, what i am doing aswell as i dont see need in improved equipment



Homer_J #10 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:47 AM

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View PostLobotomobile, on 04 May 2019 - 09:59 AM, said:

I spent 15 000 bonds on my FV4005 

Errmm how?

 

Oh, improved equipment.

 

#nopity

 

Just demount it and race to the next OP tank which is sure to be nerfed soon after you get it.

 

View PostJapualtah, on 04 May 2019 - 10:12 AM, said:

 

The OP claim is legitimate.

 

 

I see internetlawyers4U are here.

 

Funny how none of these cases ever get to court though. :sceptic:



bgjudge #11 Posted 04 May 2019 - 10:49 AM

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View PostLobotomobile, on 04 May 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:

I spent 15 000 bonds on my FV4005 and now WG made it basically unplayable. I cannot get those back, and WG will not refund those (ticket request rejected). It's not my fault that WG can't balance the game, but somehow I need to pay for it. This is certainly not a fair way to treat a player. 
Why WG does not refund bonds after playing around with tank stats? It's not easy to get 15 000, and how can I be sure that it will not be wasted on another tank that WG will nerf the next day?

 

I got foch 155 => the nerf all the tier 10 DDs.=> foch 155 useless...

Was grinding WT auf E100 ...was tier 9 at 100K exp...when they said they are going to remove it.....and I stopped playing that line ....still I dont have Grile 15 unlocked...and I will NEVER EVER unlock that useless piece of crap and arty magnet..

I am at O NI now....85K exp....and they fucked up O HO from 17sec reload to 22 sec reload....They reworked that line from HE guns to AP guns...which mean .. THIS ARE NOT THE SAME TANKS....I want HE spammers..they give me AP BIG [edited]TANKS....NO THANKS!!!!!

The only solution is :>>> DEAL WITH IT!  

or go play WoWs ...when they do rework on anything..they offer a BIG refund...



Homer_J #12 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:11 AM

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View Postbgjudge, on 04 May 2019 - 10:49 AM, said:

 

 

or go play WoWs ...when they do rework on anything..they offer a BIG refund...

They seem to rework the entire game every 2 months though.



WindSplitter1 #13 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:18 AM

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View PostJapualtah, on 04 May 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

This is a prime example of one-sided clause, or unconscionable clause.

 

The OP claim is legitimate.

If WG sees fit to nerf a tank, fine, they have all rights to do so.

But either way you look at it, especially from a good customer relationship, drastic nerfs warrant compensation.

The player, who might have invested hard earned cash into a tank, as virtual is it may be, should be offered the opportunity to recover its investment in the form of free XPs, untrained crew, unequipped gear or the like.

 

That would look a bit less 'totalitarian'.

 

Less totalitarian in Sovetskaya WG? That will happen...

DA_ZOHAN #14 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:26 AM

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View PostLobotomobile, on 04 May 2019 - 10:59 AM, said:

I spent 15 000 bonds on my FV4005 and now WG made it basically unplayable. I cannot get those back, and WG will not refund those (ticket request rejected). It's not my fault that WG can't balance the game, but somehow I need to pay for it. This is certainly not a fair way to treat a player. 
Why WG does not refund bonds after playing around with tank stats? It's not easy to get 15 000, and how can I be sure that it will not be wasted on another tank that WG will nerf the next day?

 

Maybe your approaching it wrong.

You stated that you requested 15k bonds back, obviously the answer would be AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH!!!! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!!!!

Maybe you should try requesting 600 bonds, which is the cost of removing the equipment, and then place it on a premium tank on which you grind credits.  No fear of nerfs on premium tanks dude.



NekoPuffer_PPP #15 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:28 AM

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The only tanks you can use bonds on with confidence they won't be nerfed is premium tanks. :D

MulkQvist_Fi #16 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:33 AM

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Babe, get several tier X's to avoid this. Nerfing one makes the other ones better? I miss "wh*t the f*ck e100" as got to play it briefly but make a scene out of it?

Japualtah #17 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:36 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 04 May 2019 - 10:17 AM, said:

 

IMO is good as it is. If you invested time and money to reach a tank faster, you can use it for longer. That is your advantage. Apart from some P2W premium, the main logic of the game is pay to progress, and it's exactly what you got. You got it faster. 

 

I get your point, but it's irrelevant methink.

'Fast' is not part of the concepts at stake here.

You genuinely play the game and your efforts are ruined by arbitrary decision.

Which, again, is fine considered it is good for future of the game, but gives rise to compensation.

 

Well, that's how I would handle the issue if I ran a company that large and respectable.

And WG has already shown signs of good will in the past, like when introducing tier X lights, tier V scouts owners asked for compensation and we were heard.

 



ihateclowns #18 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:48 AM

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I remember hearing quickybaby say he wanted all bonds returned to him after he had spent them all on equipment years ago. So quickybaby gets to have much bigger advantage with his fully decked out tank with improved for years while the rest of us were smart and waited, and now as soon as the waiting is about to pay off the crying starts from the idiots who spent them all.

DA_ZOHAN #19 Posted 04 May 2019 - 11:56 AM

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View Postihateclowns, on 04 May 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

I remember hearing quickybaby say he wanted all bonds returned to him after he had spent them all on equipment years ago. So quickybaby gets to have much bigger advantage with his fully decked out tank with improved for years while the rest of us were smart and waited, and now as soon as the waiting is about to pay off the crying starts from the idiots who spent them all.

 

A buddy of mine.  (NO NOT ME AHAHA) I know this sounds fishy hehe.  Bought an improved GLD instead of rammer.  It was unused, but WG refused to refund.  

This is different, years of usage.  Plus, anyone can log on to CT, and get 50k bonds to test improved equipment on their favorite tanks.

 

I hoarded my bonds to buy the 907 this past campaign via auction since I knew my clan was gonna play half campaign, so I wouldn't have bought that equipment.  Although it ended up being quite handy on my CGC for arty missions on Excalibur-279.


Edited by DA_ZOHAN, 04 May 2019 - 11:58 AM.


fwhaatpiraat #20 Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:03 PM

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OP, why can't you just celebrate that you played that overperforming vehicle for a period of time, in combination with the enhanced equipment?

Besides the fact that you can still play the FV, you could also demount the equipment.




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