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Hellknight_asc #1 Posted 06 May 2019 - 01:57 PM

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1. its big

2. its acceleration is slow

3. its camo rating is non existant

4. because of it:s useless thick armor (185mm almost flat turret at tier 10 is the same as 50 mm armor) it has to sacrifice too many medium essential stats...

 

lets be honest:

 

This tank doesnt even have one medium tank perk like maneuverability, acceleration, size, strong turret, average camouflage. The only medium perk this tank has is it`s gun.

The E50M should be called E75m and be the reworked Tier 10 version of the E75. It`s a heavy and not a medium... You can`t simply rework this tank without putting it into the heavy line.

 

 

What do you think? I`m not an unicum - my w/l rate is 53 % so I`m open to each advice how to play this tank!



HassenderZerhacker #2 Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:34 PM

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for me it's played similarly to tiger I and tiger II, with added mobility and ramming capabilities



Dorander #3 Posted 06 May 2019 - 02:45 PM

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Pretty much what Hassenderzerhacker said, with all the problems that come with that statement. Tiger I is powercrept, Tiger II is amazingly powercrept, the E50M somehow has to play like these tanks but at tier 10, and it's powercrept.

 

I can't make it work either, the E50 was great, but tier for tier the E50M just loses way too much compared to its tier. It's like a worse E50, one tier higher.



Strizi #4 Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:07 PM

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1. Buff E50M dpm by atleast 10%, its far behind the other t10 meds

2. Buff the turret to something like 225 so that t8s dont pen it all the time

3. Give it the same ground resistances as E50, it doesnt feel like a 1200hp tank atm

4. Not really needed but it would be nice - its a big tank with bad camo, maybe give it 410m viewrange


Edited by Strizi, 06 May 2019 - 03:08 PM.


barison1 #5 Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:38 PM

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would mostly go with turretface and turretside buff, 230-250 front but deffo not more, and 100-120mm turretside, atleast the frontal side part

gun is fine as it is i would say due to being pretty accurate and all

mobility maybe a slight buff in terrain resistance but nothing major

 



Strizi #6 Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:44 PM

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View Postbarison1, on 06 May 2019 - 03:38 PM, said:

would mostly go with turretface and turretside buff, 230-250 front but deffo not more, and 100-120mm turretside, atleast the frontal side part

gun is fine as it is i would say due to being pretty accurate and all

mobility maybe a slight buff in terrain resistance but nothing major

 

 

But an accurate gun doesnt counter the massive lack of dpm, its the only t10 med without dpm upgrade over the t9, its sad.



Cobra6 #7 Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:48 PM

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From very early on this thing already needed a DPM buff, certainly since the E-50 at Tier 9 got it's DPM buffed to the E-50M level a while ago. The E-50M should have had it's DPM increased at that point as well.

 

Otherwise it's fine although the armour is very underwhelming in 2019 WoT.

 

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Japualtah #8 Posted 06 May 2019 - 03:59 PM

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Powercreeping 101

barison1 #9 Posted 06 May 2019 - 04:06 PM

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View PostStrizi, on 06 May 2019 - 03:44 PM, said:

 

But an accurate gun doesnt counter the massive lack of dpm, its the only t10 med without dpm upgrade over the t9, its sad.

 

armor does help compensate aswell so far i noticed when playing atleast, just to me it doesnt look needed to buff dpm

 

but you might be right that it would need a dpm buff, think if it will get buffed along with other meds(part of e50m line being poor, looking at you panther2) we would see the supertest results and so on in future and that should show some more aswell


Edited by barison1, 06 May 2019 - 04:06 PM.


hasnainrakha57 #10 Posted 06 May 2019 - 04:40 PM

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Well honestly its outdated tank it now fits none of the role all are now played by other mediums which are better then e50m and soon they are getting buff also
1)e50m need dpm buff.
2)need better turret armor 185mm flat is useless in tuer 10 and even 8.

DeadLecter #11 Posted 06 May 2019 - 05:23 PM

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At least it has a gun that works.

30B has camo and very good mobility, yet it sucks big time, because the gun is crap. Same for STB-1 and maybe even Leo. So if you thing E50m is power crept, try 30B.

 



hasnainrakha57 #12 Posted 06 May 2019 - 06:08 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 06 May 2019 - 04:23 PM, said:

At least it has a gun that works.

30B has camo and very good mobility, yet it sucks big time, because the gun is crap. Same for STB-1 and maybe even Leo. So if you thing E50m is power crept, try 30B.

 

The upcoming buff to 30b will make it rock harder...so e50m and t62a(coz of obj140) are not good anymore..



xx984 #13 Posted 06 May 2019 - 07:10 PM

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:girl:



Saif #14 Posted 06 May 2019 - 08:11 PM

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Yes, all german are...

DeadLecter #15 Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:55 PM

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View Posthasnainrakha57, on 06 May 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

The upcoming buff to 30b will make it rock harder...so e50m and t62a(coz of obj140) are not good anymore..

 

After a long time of being sh1t and useless, I'd say 30B deserves to get something.



Dorander #16 Posted 06 May 2019 - 09:57 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 06 May 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

 

After a long time of being sh1t and useless, I'd say 30B deserves to get something.

 

And it probably does, but "there's something unbalanced with the 30B" doesn't have any bearing on the statement "There's something unbalanced with the E50M".

bbmoose #17 Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:30 AM

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I haven't played my E50M a lot, but it felt decent in randoms. I don't think that buffing everything and his mother is the way to go. Powercreep will even go further and it will only lead to having shorter games. It can't be that hard to nerf the obvious OP tanks and to buff to buff the obvious UP tanks. I think the E50M sits somewhere in between. I'd rather see a DPM buff than another impenetrable medium tank turret.

Jauhesammutin #18 Posted 07 May 2019 - 07:32 AM

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View Postxx984, on 06 May 2019 - 06:10 PM, said:

 

:girl:

 

Yeah, I don't understand what the problem is.

E50m is really strong for randoms.



aleksot #19 Posted 07 May 2019 - 10:40 AM

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View PostHellknight_asc, on 06 May 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

 

if you want to rework it, first thing you should aplly for job to WG, start from sending you CV. If you want to play it-play it. If you get a job, take priority to change 50M in best way you can.



mpf1959 #20 Posted 07 May 2019 - 11:29 AM

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Is the E50-M outdated?

 

Not as outdated as the Light V1c, fyi :playing:






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