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Nother day, nother rant.... Wheeled abominations.


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United_Stealth #1 Posted 08 May 2019 - 07:41 PM

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Just ehm.... Yeah.... It must have been said a 1000 times already. I don't come here often. But Wargaming. What on EARTH are you gonna do about those untrackable ferrari's that can bite you in the [edited]and be back at there base without taking a single point of damage because you only hit the wheels which causes them to slow down 1%..... 

They are OP as edit. When the hell are you gonna address these monstrosities you brought into in game. They are editing game braking right now imo. Just editing nerf them ASAP please, thank you!!!

For god sake.... Just look at those winrates......................

 



Nishi_Kinuyo #2 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:02 PM

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'Nother day, 'nother rant, 'nother locked thread. :D

niska #3 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:11 PM

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I think that they are not op but they are special to break the gameplay right at the start of the match.

But you will see some answers that you only have to aim carefully .... and ask to him to dont move will reloading or if you hit the magic tracks...

And if you play a slow tank... well dont play it because reasons.

I smoked cigarretes a few years , i dont know what some guys in WG are smoking.

I ask ppl what good this F1 CART as bring to this game?

FUN???? GAMES THAT LAST 5 MINUTES AND GAMEPLAY GET F RIGHT BY THE START OF THE MATCH WITH THIS SKILLED-LOL- W-DRIVEN TANKS????



Scabolcz #4 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:14 PM

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I feel like if they romve the new auto aim mechanic of them and the stupid high pen HE, all will be fine.

Edited by Scabolcz, 08 May 2019 - 08:14 PM.


Gremlin182 #5 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:19 PM

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They are tricksy but shooting them in the wheels does slow them down and not 1% more like 20% or more at least the ones up to tier 8 that I drive.

You can shoot them and kill them if you lead them enough but you have to know your tank and its ammo well that or get very lucky.

 

 



vasilinhorulezz #6 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:25 PM

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:popcorn:

DeadLecter #7 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:44 PM

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EBR 90 and 105 are still played by better players. Lots of people like me aren't even bothering to grind them. 

They are not no where near as annoying as arty.



arthurwellsley #8 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:55 PM

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By the time that the rest of the community get them in a years time, the win rate etc will plummet.

DuncaN_101 #9 Posted 08 May 2019 - 08:58 PM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 08 May 2019 - 08:25 PM, said:

:popcorn:

Yes please 



Schepel #10 Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:09 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 08 May 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

By the time that the rest of the community get them in a years time, the win rate etc will plummet.

 

I bet the curve will beat the average w/r at almost every level, even if the overall average may drop. Seen plenty of tomatoes playing these things at T8/9/10 and the simple fact their yolo suicide charges actually work in these things allows them to a) outspot opposing scouts and b) stop people in slower tanks from getting anywhere near a useful position. The yolo carts may be killable, but it takes a lot more effort than killing normal scouts, and they get places too soon. They are game breaking.

Edited by Schepel, 08 May 2019 - 09:10 PM.


WindSplitter1 #11 Posted 08 May 2019 - 09:51 PM

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View PostUnited_Stealth, on 08 May 2019 - 06:41 PM, said:

Just ehm.... Yeah.... It must have been said a 1000 times already. I don't come here often. But Wargaming. What on EARTH are you gonna do about those untrackable ferrari's that can bite you in the [edited]and be back at there base without taking a single point of damage because you only hit the wheels which causes them to slow down 1%..... 

They are OP as edit. When the hell are you gonna address these monstrosities you brought into in game. They are editing game braking right now imo. Just editing nerf them ASAP please, thank you!!!

For god sake.... Just look at those winrates......................

 

 

Velocitas Erradico.

 

The others have none. Hence reasons.



NekoPuffer_PPP #12 Posted 08 May 2019 - 10:09 PM

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Am I the only one NOT bothered by the wheeled tanks? I see no issue with them.

 

They reward skilled players, is that really so terrible?

 

Oh, wait, considering this game is dumbed down so much, effectively nerfing every player's aim to that of an average potato, yes, that seems to be very terrible.

 



niska #13 Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:22 PM

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Lets give them cruise control and move along...

Japualtah #14 Posted 08 May 2019 - 11:52 PM

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I think they are what lights should have remained before overpowered mediums/TDs with laserbeams 500+ alpha.

 

What I don't like about them is their firepower, they should have way lower alpha and increased RoF, their HE are unfair to other lights.



PoIestar #15 Posted 09 May 2019 - 12:11 AM

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Yeah, with all those 1500 m/s APCR shells flying around, something that moves is very hard to hit :facepalm:

 

My theory still exists, OP has 0 games in a wheeled LT and I haven't even looked at his profile. Those 'abominations' intruding bases is such bs, everyone has spotted you before you've even come close. Not to mention the fact that everyone with two brain cells and the basic understanding of leading your shots can make quick work of those things.

 

They're honestly not OP. They're different, and all differences need adjusting to.

 

PS: if a tier 8-10 tank hasn't been around for more than 2-3 patches, never look at stats. Only 'early adopters', ie people who care enough to get it early which mostly are the skilled people, will drive it. Wait a while and you'll see the stats drop like a brick.


Edited by PoIestar, 09 May 2019 - 12:12 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #16 Posted 09 May 2019 - 12:29 AM

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According to the win rate curves they're over performing especially the tier 8 premium and the tier 9. To make it clear for people who are not familiar with graphs and data, each point on the curve has a minimum sample of 20k battles so that's enough data. What the curve says is that the EBR 90, for example, is over performing over all the spectrum of win rates. Players with overall win rate from 47% to 57% all gain in win rate from just playing the tank by 0.8% to 1.9%.

 

The overall win rate of this tank currently at 53.7% compared to 50.2% for the AMX 13 90. So no it doesn't just reward good players or good game play, it rewards ALL who play the tank and every kind of game play.


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 09 May 2019 - 12:32 AM.


Zirakss #17 Posted 09 May 2019 - 01:18 AM

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I don't like them. They make the game too fast for my taste. It's a little bit like need for speed. I wonder how they drive with a controller or maybe even a wheel?

 

Does they bring a new audience? I guess they are aimed at that!

 

 Do I want to compete with 16 year old kids, trained by playing eight years mario kart, need for speed other arcade racers and now having finally a gun to shoot at things? Uh .. and one of those things is your tank. No I don't want that!

 

For me as primary arty player, they don't make that huge difference. it does not matter if it's a tracked or wheeled light, that slips through your ranks and takes you out.

 

But when I play in anything but an arty, they are anoying as fvck. A shot wheel slows them, but not that much as a shot track. Their HE ammo make them supperior against most other lights. And they are fast an nimble enough to even circle meds.

 

So if you ask me, those things should be nerfed into oblivion.


Edited by Zirakss, 09 May 2019 - 08:24 PM.


7thSyndicate #18 Posted 09 May 2019 - 01:47 AM

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Well nothing to see here, only another post proving that wheelchairs are better than regular scouts. 

kaneloon #19 Posted 09 May 2019 - 07:54 AM

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Yeah same view here : game breaking because all the enemy team is just shooting them from behind the arties.

The fact that they can yolo that long before being shot down by 15 guns is game breaking : all those guns are useless, spotted and can't deploy as a "normal" team to counter the other team.



Gremlin182 #20 Posted 09 May 2019 - 08:53 AM

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They are anti scouts, I play a heck of a lot of Light tanks and as others say these wheeled versions get to the good spots first.

I roll up in my Light tank to a favoured spot and they are just the other side proxy spotting me.

 

By doing that they prevent me from doing my job until we can get rid of them which isnt easy.

They haven't broken the game they just made scouting more  challenging.

They might need to make changes to spotting rules for missions and so on, we will have to see how it pans out.

 






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