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tailfinder01 #1 Posted 14 May 2019 - 09:15 PM

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The Pz. 1c - 2cm flak 38 and the Luchs - 3cm M.K. 103 are well out preforming the rest of the tanks in the same field and tier.

 

The Pz. 1c - 2cm flak 38

damage per clip, 110, reload speed 3.5-3.9 seconds damage per 5 seconds (start with full clip) 220, average HP per tank of same tier 210, average damage per 5  seconds 110 

my suggestions for this gun half the ammo in the clip (10 to 5) rounds or incrise the reload times to 7 seconds and from 0.13 to 0.4 seconds per round

Luchs - 3cm M.K. 103

damage per clip 300 average HP of tanks in same tier 310

my suggestions for this gun half the alpha damage or replace the gun with something like the 5cm Kw.k. 39l/60 or lower its armor penetration

 


Edited by tailfinder01, 14 May 2019 - 11:23 PM.


Balc0ra #2 Posted 14 May 2019 - 09:30 PM

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2cm flak 38? Who uses that on the 1c anyway? And if you removed half the burst damage and doubled the reload. It would be useless vs most 1 on 1 fights. As then it's DPM would be lower than even the worst tier III tank in the game. And even the tier 2 T7CC would be a big no-no to even look at. As he has a 50 round burst mag with 8 damage pr shot he can empty in a few seconds. Tho low pen. 

 

Luch has the pen and the burst damage, but a long reload. It has 1K DPM. The few other tier 4's I have 2x that DPM. It has burst damage, but a long, long reload. It barely does 4 clips a min. And even then you won't see 300 burst every time vs even lower tier targets. And less so at range. But as you seem to be rushing tiers more so than playing tier 3 and 4. Does it matter? Then again your T40 much like the Hetzer can do 410 damage every 8 seconds with their derp vs paper lights if he fully pens. As in more then 2.8x the DPM vs the Luchs and the Pz1c. But that's fine?



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Have you tried not getting outplayed? 

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View Posttailfinder01, on 14 May 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

The Pz. 1c - 2cm flak 38 and the Luchs - 3cm M.K. 103 are well out preforming the rest of the tanks in the same field and tier.

 

The Pz. 1c - 2cm flak 38

damage per clip, 110, reload speed 3.5-3.9 seconds damage per 5 seconds (start with full clip) 220, average HP per tank of same tier 210, average damage per 5  seconds 110 

my suggestions for this gun half the ammo in the clip (10 to 5) rounds or incrise the reload times to 7 seconds and from 0.13 to 0.4 seconds per round

Luchs - 3cm M.K. 103

damage per clip 480 average HP of tanks in same tier 310

my suggestions for this gun half the alpha damage or replace the gun with something like the 5cm Kw.k. 39l/60 or lower its armor penetration

 

Average dmg of luchs clip is 300 not 480



Japualtah #5 Posted 14 May 2019 - 10:55 PM

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Pz I C is not dangerous with the gun you're talking about, get at least your facts straights, nobody uses that gun except when grinding the line.

So yeah, why not nerf the clip from 40 to 20 and half the reload, probably, but there are many other tanks able to one-shot at tier III which is a silly tier anyways, just for giggles now and then.



FrantisekBascovansky #6 Posted 14 May 2019 - 11:15 PM

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Nope.

Pz I C and Luchs are just fine.

 

I can only find 3-platoons of these harmful but otherwise it is ok.

 

FCM36Pak40 is far more broken in lowtiers.


Edited by FrantisekBascovansky, 14 May 2019 - 11:19 PM.


Strizi #7 Posted 14 May 2019 - 11:17 PM

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Yeah the Luchs is the biggest problem in wot right now, thank you for your important input maybe you can tell your grandchildren in 50 years how you saved the game.

tailfinder01 #8 Posted 14 May 2019 - 11:18 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 14 May 2019 - 08:30 PM, said:

2cm flak 38? Who uses that on the 1c anyway? And if you removed half the burst damage and doubled the reload. It would be useless vs most 1 on 1 fights. As then it's DPM would be lower than even the worst tier III tank in the game. And even the tier 2 T7CC would be a big no-no to even look at. As he has a 50 round burst mag with 8 damage pr shot he can empty in a few seconds. Tho low pen. 

 

Luch has the pen and the burst damage, but a long reload. It has 1K DPM. The few other tier 4's I have 2x that DPM. It has burst damage, but a long, long reload. It barely does 4 clips a min. And even then you won't see 300 burst every time vs even lower tier targets. And less so at range. But as you seem to be rushing tiers more so than playing tier 3 and 4. Does it matter? Then again your T40 much like the Hetzer can do 410 damage every 8 seconds with their derp vs paper lights if he fully pens. As in more then 2.8x the DPM vs the Luchs and the Pz1c. But that's fine?

 

do i have to use bold caps with underlining on the word or 

wEight_Tanker #9 Posted 14 May 2019 - 11:21 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 14 May 2019 - 09:49 PM, said:

Have you tried not getting outplayed? 

 

Easy to say for a low tier battle. Have you tried not getting outplayed by an FV4005? I am sure that you did, at least once, just saying. :P

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View PostLeroy_Jenkinss, on 14 May 2019 - 08:50 PM, said:

Average dmg of luchs clip is 300 not 480

 

thanks fixed it

 



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View Posttailfinder01, on 14 May 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

 

do i have to use bold caps with underlining on the word or 

 

And this changes what? Either one of those will still make it useless vs anything. As pr my point. As the effect is the same if you do both or one of them. It still gets to crippled. Inc vs... 410 alpha derps. Or even the tier III derps that can take him out. As again... who uses that gun on it anyway? If you want that gun, you play the Pz II, not the 1c.

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 14 May 2019 - 11:21 PM, said:

 

Easy to say for a low tier battle. Have you tried not getting outplayed by an FV4005? I am sure that you did, at least once, just saying. :P

 

FV does at least do that from the other side of the map. If you're getting caught out by a PZ1C at point blank it maybe be more a positioning problem. 

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I'm mildly baffled by the fact that he wants to nerf the 2cm Flak and not the 7mm Mauser on the Pz.I C

Edited by Orkbert, 15 May 2019 - 03:32 PM.


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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 15 May 2019 - 08:46 AM, said:

 

FV does at least do that from the other side of the map. If you're getting caught out by a PZ1C at point blank it maybe be more a positioning problem. 

 

It is definitely a positioning problem on the FV's case as well. If you're aware that an FV might be sitting behind some bush from the other side of the map, you would probably not want to expose yourself out in the open because you'd be gone before your Sixth Sense light bulb starts flashing.

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View Posttailfinder01, on 14 May 2019 - 08:15 PM, said:

The Pz. 1c - 2cm flak 38 and the Luchs - 3cm M.K. 103 are well out preforming the rest of the tanks in the same field and tier.

 

 






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