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Wreckedum #1 Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:28 PM

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Passive spot a tank, keep him spotted, nearest to him and un-spotted he is destroyed. Got no damage on spotting cred. Seems to be since latest update

Edited by Wreckedum, 17 May 2019 - 05:32 PM.


pecopad #2 Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:31 PM

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Assisted damage has always been a bit bugged... some times you don't get the damage, other times you get the damage even when others are spotting. Its not a thing of this patch. If you are not getting the assisted damage, just relocate.

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Wreckedum #3 Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:38 PM

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Just another way of making a joke of being a spotter. The t-50-2 rushers were bad enough so they added arcade 'active spotting' wheeled vehicles.  Added to less bushes, accurate damage pointers and no credit, has made spotting a lottery

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Dorander #4 Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:42 PM

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You don't get assist damage for being the nearest spotter. You get assist damage for being the spotter for people who don't spot the target themselves. If they also spot the target, for example because the tank drove in their spotrange as well or fired their gun and lost camo because of it, you get nothing off the assist because you're not technically assisting.

Jigabachi #5 Posted 17 May 2019 - 05:58 PM

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Impossible to judge without a replay.

Wreckedum #6 Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:06 PM

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View PostDorander, on 17 May 2019 - 05:42 PM, said:

You don't get assist damage for being the nearest spotter. You get assist damage for being the spotter for people who don't spot the target themselves. If they also spot the target, for example because the tank drove in their spotrange as well or fired their gun and lost camo because of it, you get nothing off the assist because you're not technically assisting.

 

So when I said 'Passive spot a tank' what did you no understand about the meaning that I was the first spotter? Or did you have something else in mind

Balc0ra #7 Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:08 PM

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Just because you spot him first, don't always mean you are the only one keeping him spotted after a few seconds. As that's been a thing for ages, not just this patch. As it gets a bit odd in terms of rewarding it at times if half the team is suddenly keeping him "spotted" along with you. Don't matter if you are closest or not.

 

Could be a server issue, could be a bug that's been there for 6 years, could be that the system did not care to split that low numbers with the 6 that suddenly had him within their viewrange to keep him lit.



Wreckedum #8 Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:15 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 May 2019 - 06:08 PM, said:

Just because you spot him first, don't always mean you are the only one keeping him spotted after a few seconds. As that's been a thing for ages, not just this patch. As it gets a bit odd in terms of rewarding it at times if half the team is suddenly keeping him "spotted" along with you. Don't matter if you are closest or not.

 

Could be a server issue, could be a bug that's been there for 6 years, could be that the system did not care to split that low numbers with the 6 that suddenly had him within their viewrange to keep him lit.

 

So being first, closest and continuously spotted (talking about camo, net, all crew camo skill  and very very close) does not mean you should get credit? If that is the case it is, as I say,  borked!

Schepel #9 Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:23 PM

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View PostWreckedum, on 17 May 2019 - 06:15 PM, said:

 

So being first, closest and continuously spotted (talking about camo, net, all crew camo skill  and very very close) does not mean you should get credit? If that is the case it is, as I say,  borked!

 

It is not about who spots him first. It is about who is spotting at the time of damage, IF - and only IF - the damage dealer is not spotting the target. The fact you don't seem to understand how the game works does not mean the game is borked, only that your understanding is.

Gruff_ #10 Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:42 PM

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If he's unspotted at the point of damage then no you will not get the credit for that damage, you will only get the credit for the first spot and any subsequent damage whilst he is still lit up by you.

 

I think you may also be confusing passive spotting (where you are lighting up tanks without being detected / firing at them) with proximity spotting where you light them up because you are within 50 metres of each other eg below the hill on mines and one is above you.

 

These might help http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Spotting_Mechanics

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Battle_Mechanics#Experience_and_Credits

 


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Wreckedum #11 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:23 PM

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So when I said 'keep him spotted you still want to argue that everything is ok. 

 

Let me say it a different way . 

 

IN A SCOUT (TYPE 64) I WENT SO FAR FORWARD AND CAMP IN A BUSH.  I SPOTTED A TANK WHICH CAME VERY CLOSE TO ME ON OPEN GROUND. THE TEAM WERE ALL (REPEAT ALL) WAY BEHIND ME AND DESTROYED THE TANK SITTING VIRTUALLY NEXT TO ME IN THE OPEN.... AND I GOT NO CREDIT FOR 'DAMAGE ASSISTANCE'

 

Ok I give up as you guys seem unable to accept a plain statement and just want to be disagreeable



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View PostWreckedum, on 17 May 2019 - 07:23 PM, said:

So when I said 'keep him spotted you still want to argue that everything is ok. 

 

Let me say it a different way . 

 

IN A SCOUT (TYPE 64) I WENT SO FAR FORWARD AND CAMP IN A BUSH.  I SPOTTED A TANK WHICH CAME VERY CLOSE TO ME ON OPEN GROUND. THE TEAM WERE ALL (REPEAT ALL) WAY BEHIND ME AND DESTROYED THE TANK SITTING VIRTUALLY NEXT TO ME IN THE OPEN.... AND I GOT NO CREDIT FOR 'DAMAGE ASSISTANCE'

 

Ok I give up as you guys seem unable to accept a plain statement and just want to be disagreeable

 

Impossible to help you explain what might happened without a replay

divsmo #13 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:31 PM

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View PostOreH75, on 17 May 2019 - 06:27 PM, said:

 

Impossible to help you explain what might happened without a replay

This ^^, we only have your word for what you say happened and going by past examples what people say happened has a habit of being wrong.

 



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Not looking to be disagreable at all just looking to help interpret and answer your question, can you post the replay then we can see if it is bugged or not?  It's entirely possible you were the closest tank but someone else further back already had binos up and higher skilled crew so took the credit.

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View PostWreckedum, on 17 May 2019 - 06:23 PM, said:

So when I said 'keep him spotted you still want to argue that everything is ok. 

 

Let me say it a different way . 

 

IN A SCOUT (TYPE 64) I WENT SO FAR FORWARD AND CAMP IN A BUSH.  I SPOTTED A TANK WHICH CAME VERY CLOSE TO ME ON OPEN GROUND. THE TEAM WERE ALL (REPEAT ALL) WAY BEHIND ME AND DESTROYED THE TANK SITTING VIRTUALLY NEXT TO ME IN THE OPEN.... AND I GOT NO CREDIT FOR 'DAMAGE ASSISTANCE'

 

Ok I give up as you guys seem unable to accept a plain statement and just want to be disagreeable

 

Just because ur the closest one to the spotted tank doesnt mean anything, someone else could have spotted him first even standing far away from you.. thats how view range works. Maybe check the replay again

Jigabachi #16 Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:02 PM

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View PostWreckedum, on 17 May 2019 - 07:23 PM, said:

Ok I give up as you guys seem unable to accept a plain statement and just want to be disagreeable

As already stated - without a replay, this is pretty much pointless.

Could be a bug (one that didn't get noticed all those years), could be a misinterpretation on your part (which already happened countless times here).

To us this looks like:

"But Mr. MathTeacher... I told you - I pressed 2+2 and the calculator said 5!"

 

Sooo... again: Replay.


Edited by Jigabachi, 17 May 2019 - 08:02 PM.


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View PostWreckedum, on 17 May 2019 - 05:15 PM, said:

 

So being first, closest and continuously spotted (talking about camo, net, all crew camo skill  and very very close) does not mean you should get credit? If that is the case it is, as I say,  borked!

 

So let me get this straight, you think that because you spotted someone first and were closest, no matter who else can see that tank, you should get assist damage for everyone that fires upon that person, if not the system is "borked"... and you have played nearly a hundred and five thousand battles in this game?

 

As others have requested, please provide a replay, that's the only way your credibility can be saved at this point.






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