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It wasn't ok to one shot in arty but in TD's its all good


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superfly2000 #1 Posted 17 May 2019 - 06:52 PM

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There was so much whining about arty doing damage.

 

But HE shooting RHM with derp gun (and ofcourse tomato RNG-master driving it) one shooting tanks is ok with all. Probably because you are all driving it....

 

Troll kids....

 



Wintermute_1 #2 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:03 PM

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View Postsuperfly2000, on 17 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

There was so much whining about arty doing damage.

 

But HE shooting RHM with derp gun (and ofcourse tomato RNG-master driving it) one shooting tanks is ok with all. Probably because you are all driving it....

 

Troll kids....

 

 

It takes skill to sit stationary behind a bush at the back...

psychobear #3 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:15 PM

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View Postsuperfly2000, on 17 May 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

There was so much whining about arty doing damage.

 

But HE shooting RHM with derp gun (and ofcourse tomato RNG-master driving it) one shooting tanks is ok with all. Probably because you are all driving it....

 

Troll kids....

 

 

There weren't any whines about arty oneshotting or arty in general. There were only pertinent arguments pointing out it's broken and gamebreaking nature. And the problem with arty was not the oneshots, it is the indirect fire ability, which has no place in this game, so comparing it to TDs was, is and will always be pointless.

Wintermute_1 #4 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:45 PM

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View Postpsychobear, on 17 May 2019 - 07:15 PM, said:

There weren't any whines about arty oneshotting or arty in general. 

 

So if I search the words one, shot and arty I won't find anything puerile and childish just pertinent arguments?

 

£100? 



psychobear #5 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:52 PM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 17 May 2019 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

So if I search the words one, shot and arty I won't find anything puerile and childish just pertinent arguments?

 

£100? 

 

On the contrary. You will definitely find a lot of puerile and childish things posted by the pro arty side, as well as a lot of thread derailing and bad trolling posted by the same people.

Jigabachi #6 Posted 17 May 2019 - 07:54 PM

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View Postpsychobear, on 17 May 2019 - 07:15 PM, said:

There weren't any whines about arty oneshotting or arty in general. There were only pertinent arguments [...].

We had/ have 5% borderline mature feedback and 95% whines, with at least 10% of those whines coming from you. :P

 

@ thread: Err... what exactly is the motivation behind this thread? Just the old urge to post something again? Because it looks quite early for a drunk forum-session after a wet night at the bar...



Balc0ra #7 Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:00 PM

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Must be why no one complained about the Types either. As they are not SPG's.

 

But if a AP gun want's to spam HE. I'm fine with that. Sure it has 85 pen. But how is that vs most armored targets? Vs lights. Sure. But then again their AP pen is low for a tier 8 TD on that gun. So most spam HE with it.

 

But... you can blame the missions for critical damage too. As that's why most spam it.



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View Postpsychobear, on 17 May 2019 - 07:52 PM, said:

 

On the contrary. You will definitely find a lot of puerile and childish things posted by the pro arty side, as well as a lot of thread derailing and bad trolling posted by the same people.

 

But nothing by the anti arty side like you stated right?

 

£500?



Japualtah #9 Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:01 PM

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Just 1800 to 0 from a hidden FV4005.

 

Not better than arty, just less common.

 

No tank should ever take more than 50% of your hitpoints away, ever.



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View Postsuperfly2000, on 17 May 2019 - 06:52 PM, said:

tomato RNG-master

 

:teethhappy: :teethhappy: :teethhappy:

 

That's an awsome nickname though



Pansenmann #11 Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:05 PM

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I expected an FV4005 whine thread...

gpalsson #12 Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:06 PM

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Oneshots from arty and TDs are retarded.

However, the only way they could manage to make TD oneshots worse was to make it possible from the other side of the map.

 

Sounds like OP suffers from a case of butthurt from being oneshotted by a tomato in a TD. It pretty great because he likes to clickbot himself so I guess it's just karma.

 

View PostPansenmann, on 17 May 2019 - 07:05 PM, said:

I expected an FV4005 whine thread...

 

​If you look closely, it is.

 

 

Anyway, HE is just bad in general. Too many problems in WoT stems directly from HE. Arty however isn't just bad because of HE.


Edited by gpalsson, 17 May 2019 - 08:09 PM.


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Can't say I have much problem with TD's outplaying me regardless of if they have the capability to one-shoot me or not since it's not only require some actual work by the TD player but it's often easy to counter from my side, arty on the other hand most of the time don't even require you to move after you fire due to so few people actually bothering to counter enemy arty and there are no real counter apart from RNG, a huge difference and two totally different scenarios.

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View Postgpalsson, on 17 May 2019 - 08:06 PM, said:

 

Anyway, HE is just bad in general. Too many problems in WoT stems directly from HE. Arty however isn't just bad because of HE.

 

indeed, if only arty had AP, it could maybe defend itself. :B

the HE and HESH mechanics rework is long overdue,

but personally I'd like WG to work on the chat interface first.



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At least I can fight back and kill that RHM. Or hide from it.

Pansenmann #16 Posted 17 May 2019 - 08:20 PM

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View PostDeadLecter, on 17 May 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

At least I can fight back and kill that RHM. Or hide from it.

 

I totally understand you.

playing LeFH for example is as fun as it is not when playing against it.
artillery is for me a love-hate relationship, that's why I don't want it to go.



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View PostPansenmann, on 17 May 2019 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

I totally understand you.

playing LeFH for example is as fun as it is not when playing against it.
artillery is for me a love-hate relationship, that's why I don't want it to go.

 

if they limited arty to 1 per team, none of these problems would exist. One arty is totally fine. 2~3 arties completely change how people play on a map. It is not ok for 1 class to dictate how the remaining 24 tanks should play. When there are 3 arties, every one wants to camp.

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Wintermute_1 #19 Posted 17 May 2019 - 09:16 PM

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View PostSuedKAT, on 17 May 2019 - 08:08 PM, said:

Can't say I have much problem with TD's outplaying me regardless of if they have the capability to one-shoot me

 

View PostDeadLecter, on 17 May 2019 - 08:14 PM, said:

At least I can fight back and kill that RHM. Or hide from it.

 

TDs are ambush tanks, most of the time I play a TD the first shot I get off I haven't been spotted. If that first shot happens to one shot the target there's not much out playing or playing back going on. On the part of the TD there's no more skill than playing arty going on either, WASD isn't an issue you are leading and firing.   



XxKuzkina_MatxX #20 Posted 17 May 2019 - 09:33 PM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 18 May 2019 - 12:16 AM, said:

On the part of the TD there's no more skill than playing arty going on either, WASD isn't an issue you are leading and firing.   

 

Yeah not much knowledge required at all apart from moving around the map where you can have LOS, knowing your role (sniper, brawler or both), knowing where and how to aim,managing your DPM, knowing how to use view range and camo, etc.

 

Nothing to it really, easy as falling off a log!






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