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90% of the player base says... remove arty... WG is like.. nope, [edited]you paying customers


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APoliticallyCorrectName #1 Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:03 AM

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for 8 years or whatever... everything you do is a very minor improvement until you remove artillery. When you do, your game will be World of Tanks. But you don't give a crap. Whatever. No one will see this anyways... Feels bad (btw your mm is unbalanced, too much RNG and a third of game features is bugged with every update...) But arty is the biggest issue. But you know this... and for some reason you don't care... feels bad for your playerbase

 



Signal11th #2 Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:08 AM

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View PostAPoliticallyCorrectName, on 17 May 2019 - 11:03 PM, said:

for 8 years or whatever... everything you do is a very minor improvement until you remove artillery. When you do, your game will be World of Tanks. But you don't give a crap. Whatever. No one will see this anyways... Feels bad (btw your mm is unbalanced, too much RNG and a third of game features is bugged with every update...) But arty is the biggest issue. But you know this... and for some reason you don't care... feels bad for your playerbase

 

 

Unfortunately 90% of the player base are quite bad at the game and they like arty for the obvious reasons bad players would like it.

MeetriX #3 Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:15 AM

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73.6% of all statistics are made up.

Dorander #4 Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:16 AM

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View PostMeetriX, on 17 May 2019 - 11:15 PM, said:

73.6% of all statistics are made up.

 

Dang, you were 47.9% faster than me.

jack_timber #5 Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:16 AM

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View PostAPoliticallyCorrectName, on 17 May 2019 - 11:03 PM, said:

for 8 years or whatever... everything you do is a very minor improvement until you remove artillery. When you do, your game will be World of Tanks. But you don't give a crap. Whatever. No one will see this anyways... Feels bad (btw your mm is unbalanced, too much RNG and a third of game features is bugged with every update...) But arty is the biggest issue. But you know this... and for some reason you don't care... feels bad for your playerbase

 

 

Quite right that WG don't care, especially about whiners.

Ahh well it's good to see the weekend drivel has already started.



m4inbrain #6 Posted 18 May 2019 - 12:26 AM

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Unpopular opinion, but i despise wheelchairs even more than arty. 

 

That's not to say that i wouldn't be in favour of limiting it to two, or even one piece per match - i absolutely would be. But overall, wheeled tank are more cancerous.



Kicky92 #7 Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:19 AM

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Yeah WG are basically throwing tons of poop at the wall and hoping some will stick, but it isn't. They might as well be throwing it into a fan....

If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #8 Posted 18 May 2019 - 01:41 AM

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Good arty has always won and lost battles

 

From WW1 to the Invasion of Russia in 41 to Vietnam

 

If your arty is rubbish you tend to lose in the real world



CraftyVeteran #9 Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:06 AM

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inb4 thread lock.  whine harder. it'll get you everywhere.

m4inbrain #10 Posted 18 May 2019 - 02:45 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 18 May 2019 - 12:41 AM, said:

Good arty has always won and lost battles

 

From WW1 to the Invasion of Russia in 41 to Vietnam

 

If your arty is rubbish you tend to lose in the real world

 

Except arty isn't designed to hit tanks. Nor were they ever intended to. Artillery is designed to pummel fortified positions or soft targets (as in, troops). Kursk is a good example where artillery was used to split soldiers from armoured troops, and then the armour was taken out by 57mm etc field guns. Not to mention the artillery was presighted too - and it made terrain unusable for tanks. 

 

This is of course also not including the fact that to be effective in any shape or form, you need dozens, sometimes even hundreds or thousands of artillery pieces. Not one or two. I can't think of any field battle (as in, not an attack or a defense of a fortified position) where artillery was used or would've been effective against armoured troops. Not to mention that it's virtually impossible to hit a moving target with artillery in real life (well, at least in WW2 and earlier), because not only was artillery hugely inaccurate (it sometimes took up to 60 minutes to lay fire just in the right area, and that area would be a 250m circle) - you also had to rely on decent intel and live updates on movements and "hits", to adjust gun laying.

 

Artillery in WoT is like close air support in War Thunder. Hugely blown out of proportion, they were never even remotely as devastating as they are in game. Now i understand that "it's a game", but in that case, "arty won battles in RL" isn't really an argument either.



PhooBar #11 Posted 18 May 2019 - 03:47 AM

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How terrible.

 

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Jigabachi #12 Posted 18 May 2019 - 05:57 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 18 May 2019 - 01:41 AM, said:

Good arty has always won and lost battles

From WW1 to the Invasion of Russia in 41 to Vietnam

If your arty is rubbish you tend to lose in the real world

How is that relevant? This is a game, not the real world. And in this game, arty is still far from being balanced.

But dumb threads full of whining and plain lies won't help anyone...



wsatnutter #13 Posted 18 May 2019 - 06:07 AM

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Where did the bad artyman touch you OP 

MeetriX #14 Posted 18 May 2019 - 06:19 AM

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Remove SPGs and this game is still +95% fantsy.

TheR3dBaron #15 Posted 18 May 2019 - 07:33 AM

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Only took you 3000 battles to get to that statistic?

spamhamstar #16 Posted 18 May 2019 - 08:31 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 18 May 2019 - 12:41 AM, said:

Good arty has always won and lost battles

 

From WW1 to the Invasion of Russia in 41 to Vietnam

 

If your arty is rubbish you tend to lose in the real world

 

What?  There's not much right with this post. 

 

Right from the start  where you claim good arty has both won & lost battles (a clear contradiction), to claiming that a series of unmitigated militarty disasters were the result of good arty. 

 

WW1 was a disaster for all involved & they certainly didn't use arty to target individual tanks.  The invasion of Russia almost single handedly marked the end of German expansion & the initial gains were due to a combination of surprise, close air support & a mobile mechanised force (blitzkrieg).  The VC didn't use any arty in their successful campaign against the South & their US allies, who certainly had much better arty support than the mortars the north used.

 

So unless you're trying to point out that arty has no place in a tank vs tank game, you've not done very well here.



Japualtah #17 Posted 18 May 2019 - 08:54 AM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 18 May 2019 - 01:41 AM, said:

Good arty has always won and lost battles

 

From WW1 to the Invasion of Russia in 41 to Vietnam

 

If your arty is rubbish you tend to lose in the real world

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

You don't even know why artillery was - it isn't anymore - used.

I'm a retired artillery officer btw.



If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #18 Posted 18 May 2019 - 08:55 AM

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It's always the same

 

No-one ever complains about the ability to roflstomp all over tanks

"please make it harder for me WG! I hate crushing lower tier tanks with my tier 10 russian mega tank!"

 

But when someone can roflstomp you the crying and wailing starts

Boo hoo waa waa

 

View it as a form of therapy

It's a tuff old world and your time playing WoT will help you to deal with it


Edited by If_I_Die_You_Die_Too, 18 May 2019 - 08:58 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #19 Posted 18 May 2019 - 09:12 AM

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OP, 1040 battles in SU122-A and 3-marked... because he hates arty...

unhappy_bunny #20 Posted 18 May 2019 - 09:16 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 18 May 2019 - 08:12 AM, said:

OP, 1040 battles in SU122-A and 3-marked... because he hates arty...

 

Be fair. He was talking about 90% of the playerbase. He never said he was in that 90%. 

Also, you can tell he doesn't hate arty nor was this thread an arty whine because at no time did he post in CAPS.

Serious whiners always use CAPS. 






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