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Hellknight_asc #1 Posted 19 May 2019 - 11:46 AM

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Steelwall, Großkaliber (dont know the English wording) in almost every battle I entered (where a O430U took place).

 

Either all unicums play an object 430U or this tank combines the advantages of a heavy with those of a medium. It could be just me (only 51% WR and began 2 Weeks ago after taking a 4 yeahr break times :D) so I have to ask - is this normal? Or is this a evidence for russian bias?

 

And before you ask - no map is the same than 3 years ago so it's a completely new game for me with a German tree (T10 E100, T10 Light, T10 E50m) and I see myself as  lower medium skilled player.



ZlatanArKung #2 Posted 19 May 2019 - 11:58 AM

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View PostHellknight_asc, on 19 May 2019 - 11:46 AM, said:

Steelwall, Großkaliber (dont know the English wording) in almost every battle I entered (where a O430U took place).

 

Either all unicums play an object 430U or this tank combines the advantages of a heavy with those of a medium. It could be just me (only 51% WR and began 2 Weeks ago after taking a 4 yeahr break times :D) so I have to ask - is this normal? Or is this a evidence for russian bias?

 

And before you ask - no map is the same than 3 years ago so it's a completely new game for me with a German tree (T10 E100, T10 Light, T10 E50m) and I see myself as  lower medium skilled player.

The tank is to good and should be changed quite a bit.

But this is WG so....



XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 19 May 2019 - 12:03 PM

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The 430U is one of the best tier 10 mediums, it's normal for people to do well in a good tank. It's also normal to be average or below if you play a relic from WOT 2014.

 

Have a nice day! :)



If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #4 Posted 19 May 2019 - 12:17 PM

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WoT Tank power creep

 

That IS3A currently in the shop

Tier8

3 shots in 4 seconds after the first hit, 1200 damage

1500ms shell speed which is super sniper stuff... and all on a russkie 122mm



Japualtah #5 Posted 19 May 2019 - 12:35 PM

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0.40 dispersion / 2.30 aim time / 940 ms shell velocity.

 

I'm grinding the U atm because it's a tank worth having but I don't like the 430, mediums are about guns to me and that gun is just awkward.

What do you favor, fun or stats?

 

It looks like a great tank for stats, just not my idea of fun and if WG nerfs the gun even further - which is less work than tweaking the model - I'm not even sure I'll finish to grind it.



Hellknight_asc #6 Posted 19 May 2019 - 01:14 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 19 May 2019 - 11:03 AM, said:

The 430U is one of the best tier 10 mediums, it's normal for people to do well in a good tank. It's also normal to be average or below if you play a relic from WOT 2014.

 

Have a nice day! :)

 

It seems all tanks were buffs somehow - except the Germans :D;)

 

p.s. my times were the times were the vk2810 and the T50-2 were the top tier-rivals (Tier V I think) when there were 5 arties per side while T54 UFOs tried to hunt em  and shortly after they nerfed them in favour of higher tier lights :D


Edited by Hellknight_asc, 19 May 2019 - 01:27 PM.


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russian bias doesn't exist, learn to play noob

XxKuzkina_MatxX #8 Posted 19 May 2019 - 01:30 PM

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View PostHellknight_asc, on 19 May 2019 - 04:14 PM, said:

It seems all tanks were buffs somehow - except the Germans :D;)

 

Not really, a small portion of tier 10 tanks are good and even a smaller portion of tier 10 mediums. 121, 30B, T62A, K-91 and CAX are all examples of a mediocre to bad tier 10 mediums.

 

Rhm Pzw, Sheridan, IS-4, E100, E5, Foch B, Grille 15, Jgpz E100, E4 and the WZ113G are all examples of bad tier 10 tanks. So not just the germans!



friedeggnchips #9 Posted 19 May 2019 - 01:37 PM

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Don't worry, they're replacing it soon with the Object 3000

It will come equipped with VTOL rockets to compensate for the slow traverse speed.

It will be a solid ball of a titanium alloy and will have a tractor beam to stop targets and use the 300mm railgun cannon.

I heard as well that it may be able to take a V stab, but that may just be rumors as that would be too OP. 



Spartan_93 #10 Posted 19 May 2019 - 02:01 PM

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300mm railgun is no problem because overpenetrations deals only 1/10 of shell damage.

WindSplitter1 #11 Posted 19 May 2019 - 02:05 PM

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View Postfriedeggnchips, on 19 May 2019 - 12:37 PM, said:

Don't worry, they're replacing it soon with the Object 3000

It will come equipped with VTOL rockets to compensate for the slow traverse speed.

It will be a solid ball of a titanium alloy and will have a tractor beam to stop targets and use the 300mm railgun cannon.

I heard as well that it may be able to take a V stab, but that may just be rumors as that would be too OP. 

 

We already have that. It's the IS-8 Ball. It went on SerB's moonbase and everything and those who got on received a medal.

friedeggnchips #12 Posted 19 May 2019 - 02:07 PM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 19 May 2019 - 01:05 PM, said:

 

We already have that. It's the IS-8 Ball. It went on SerB's moonbase and everything and those who got on received a medal.

 

Thats what i was hinting toward :justwait:
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View PostSpartan_93, on 19 May 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

300mm railgun is no problem because overpenetrations deals only 1/10 of shell damage.

 

Yes but its a railgun.

It will carry any target it hits with the shell.

 

Flying maus :trollface:


Edited by friedeggnchips, 19 May 2019 - 02:09 PM.


If_I_Die_You_Die_Too #13 Posted 19 May 2019 - 02:15 PM

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German tanks got buffed with +5 alpha in 2016 to compensate

Yaccay #14 Posted 19 May 2019 - 03:20 PM

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I would say Russian bias.

And a fun fact: WG has started to rebalance tier X medium tanks. WG had planned to nerf a bit OBJ430U, then WG decided to not change (not nerf) OBJ 430U for ... special reasons....

 



Laiskamato #15 Posted 19 May 2019 - 03:36 PM

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View PostIf_I_Die_You_Die_Too, on 19 May 2019 - 02:17 PM, said:

WoT Tank power creep

 

That IS3A currently in the shop

Tier8

3 shots in 4 seconds after the first hit, 1200 damage

1500ms shell speed which is super sniper stuff... and all on a russkie 122mm

 

And you are lucky to hit even one

 

So OP



demon_tank #16 Posted 19 May 2019 - 04:30 PM

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ITS A FREE TO GET TANK.

 

Grind it and enjoy the gameplay and stop the whining.

 

WG wont nerff it because of Russian bias or Russian business bias to be exact.



lnfernaI #17 Posted 19 May 2019 - 04:48 PM

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View PostWindSplitter1, on 19 May 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:

 

We already have that. It's the IS-8 Ball. It went on SerB's moonbase and everything and those who got on received a medal.

 

Wasn't it called IS-360 or something?

 

on topic:

the tank overperforms for both unicums,good players and most bad players. It's a problem. But since nerfing it would make the russian market cry, it will still put alot of other tanks to uselessness or lesser importance.


Edited by lnfernaI, 19 May 2019 - 04:49 PM.


DeadLecter #18 Posted 19 May 2019 - 05:18 PM

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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 19 May 2019 - 02:33 PM, said:

The 430U is one of the best tier 10 mediums, it's normal for people to do well in a good tank. It's also normal to be average or below if you play a relic from WOT 2014.

 

Have a nice day! :)

 

It is the best TX MT and one of the best HTs. I have been playing 277 for some time and I ask myself why the hell did I not get a 430U instead. Same mobility, same HEAT pen, much better camo, much better armor, only 50 less DPS which is more than compensated by the better DPM. 

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View PostDeadLecter, on 19 May 2019 - 08:18 PM, said:

It is the best TX MT and one of the best HTs. I have been playing 277 for some time and I ask myself why the hell did I not get a 430U instead. Same mobility, same HEAT pen, much better camo, much better armor, only 50 less DPS which is more than compensated by the better DPM. 

 

The 277 is another case in which WG actually listened to the community's, this community, opinion about balance. Same with the Kranvagn, both are stellar tanks, right?

 

On a more serious note, the T-10 is a better tank tier for tier. Get rid of the excess baggage and buy the T-10 back.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 19 May 2019 - 08:00 PM, said:

 

The 277 is another case in which WG actually listened to the community's, this community, opinion about balance. Same with the Kranvagn, both are stellar tanks, right?

 

On a more serious note, the T-10 is a better tank tier for tier. Get rid of the excess baggage and buy the T-10 back.

 

I'm not the kind of guy to sell a TX tank but honestly I'm disappointed in 277. Except for slightly better DPM and 50 more alpha it has nothing more. 430U has more alpha, pen, DPM and armor compared to 430 so it feels like a real upgrade. I think we can say 277 is balanced but unfortunately in this meta balanced is the new under powered.




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