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JimboJones2000 #1 Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:03 AM

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I've never thought that team damage would have been bad idea because of trolling players, but today I simply couldn't take it anymore. 

Check this replay and think about it. Should WG think about removing or changing team damage system?

 

Link: http://wotreplays.eu...etto_m35_mod_46

 

Special thanks to this unbelieveble player *edited* that basically ruined my whole game without a reason. You're one of many. We need more of your kind of players... Or less. 

 

I know that someone will get angry about the topic or about that I posted this trolls name, so it's useless to cry about it for me, I don't care.


Edited by SilviettaG, 22 May 2019 - 03:47 PM.
Naming & shaming


The_Naa #2 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:19 AM

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Team damage is nice. A enemy shoots an enemy. its all good.

Also in b4 the lock :popcorn:



PowJay #3 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:25 AM

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Nope.

DuncaN_101 #4 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:28 AM

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Ow look... This again.
How about nope.

If they can't damage you these players (and I use the term lightly there) will find other ways to annoy people in game so it won't solve anything.

Also... Nice naming and shaming there sir good way to get noticed

shikaka9 #5 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:29 AM

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and then how else you gonna punish deserters, comrade? 

 

P.S. or shot players who killed you in battle before? :trollface:  i was killed twice this week because this, it seems it is necessary


Edited by shikaka9, 22 May 2019 - 09:32 AM.


ThinGun #6 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:31 AM

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It's just part of the game.  Generally there is ALWAYS someone who ruins your game.  Sometimes they happen to be on your team, is all.  Go pet the dog, kiss the wife, smell the roses and then come back and carry on playing.  No-one ACTUALLY died.

Laatikkomafia #7 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:45 AM

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Old topic. Includes naming n' shaming.

 

 

^ never gets old.



Japualtah #8 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:59 AM

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They are slowly phasing team damage out of the game.

It's gone from frontline, it should be gone from ranked (I tried and damaged an ally, sorry, couldn't resist, didn't test it a second time) and if everything goes fine it will be removed from randoms.

Or that sounds like the plan.



TungstenHitman #9 Posted 22 May 2019 - 10:08 AM

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There isn't too much griefing in the game most the time and what little there, the most common problems I encounter with teammates are those that try to push me out into enemy fire, block my retreat efforts behind solid cover I would have been using so I get killed, using me a shield when they get spotted and of course, the odd lunatic that on very rare battles just decides they want to spend the battle pushing, nudging and bashing your tank hoping you will shoot them I guess. So none of these things involved team damage.

 

Sure, I get TK'd the odd time and in most cases it's accidental, sometimes it's a guy being a dope and sometimes maybe I deserved it... and visa versa. Yesterday I was on 94.5% MoE and some teammate for whatever reason, maybe I was black listed(which needs to be removed btw, why have a black list? to make a TK list of every griefer you meat? get rid of it WG it's toxic) but anyway immediately from the start he tried to push me down a cliff to my death and would just not let up, he just kept trying to do, pretended he was finished, even drove away ONLY so he could build up speed to try knock me down this cliff. My tank was to slow to relocate and the battle was already live and not much else I could go so I settled it the only way I could to which he had the nerve to say "all report!" and I was blue. Luckily the teammates didn't kill me, I guess maybe they had seen this idiot trying to kill me over and over and I was able to not lose any progress with the marks. I was also lucky my tank had the engine power to resist his repeated efforts otherwise I was TK'd and zero dmg round.

 

You can see the replay on wot replays I won't attach it but it's an interesting topic for sure. Sometimes a TK is the only way, I know some won't agree with that but if a guy is in your face, trying to kill you, showing no interest in doing anything else and you have a way to end it, I have no issue with that. If you can't relocate, if you can't do anything other than leave the battle which is an offence in itself, why should you put up with it? You didn't ask for this attention, you didn't do anything wrong and you just want to play the game... if you can remove the problem, do it... and send the replay to support.



Gremlin182 #10 Posted 22 May 2019 - 10:09 AM

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If team damage was a big problem then maybe and also if some players were not complete idiots then again maybe.

 

I see team damage occasionally not daily maybe not even weekly but it does happen

I have only shot a friendly and been shot once this year both complete accidents.

Been pushed only once or twice this year too.

I do see idiots firing near other tanks as they drive away at the start and 5 or more shots near someones tracks isn't an accident.

 

If they removed team damage all bets would be off and players would be shooting they team nearly every game.

They would ping the map tell other players how they should play or where to go and if they didn't like it they would shoot them.

 

So if you remove the damage part at least keep a standard penalty for hitting a friendly tank.

So I shoot you and hit you take no damage get no compensation but I would get a fine.

That at least would stop some of the idiots.



Balc0ra #11 Posted 22 May 2019 - 10:21 AM

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It needs to be reworked. Not removed.

 

I say that based on how I did see console did react to it after it's removal there. It got worse. As in if they want to ruin your game for you there, they still can. As then they have to put more effort into it vs just shooting you one time. And get more inventive in their ways of doing it. As there are redit topics on how to flip a Maus the best way to ruin their game if you have 2-3 meds since they can't shoot it. As there is no crush damage either. So going back on a Swedish TD won't kill them. So they have time to flip you over. And thus none of those new ways of ruining the games for you have an automated system for it. So... I'm still saying it's better to leave it there. But it still needs a rework to make it stricter. Even more so if they are in platoon. 



Bordhaw #12 Posted 22 May 2019 - 06:54 PM

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View PostJimboJones2000, on 22 May 2019 - 07:03 AM, said:

Team dmg need to be removed from the game

 

WG plan is to remove it by the end of this year. 

Zylon0 #13 Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:01 PM

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Bad idea no.. keep team damage in the game.

Add harsher penalties for repeat offenders. Works much better.



friedeggnchips #14 Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:11 PM

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Dorander #15 Posted 22 May 2019 - 07:16 PM

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View PostThinGun, on 22 May 2019 - 08:31 AM, said:

Go kiss the dog, smell the wife, pet the roses and then come back and carry on playing.  No-one ACTUALLY died.

 

Fixed the first sentence, in case it was the wife who actually died. :hiding:

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View PostBordhaw, on 22 May 2019 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

WG plan is to remove it by the end of this year. 

 

Got a source for that? I know it's in the pipeline but never seen a date about it before. They've already taken another step by taking team damage out of ranked battles, so it definitely seems to be coming, no matter what we discuss about it here (which has been done, extensively).

SnowRelic #16 Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:00 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 22 May 2019 - 09:28 AM, said:

If they can't damage you these players (and I use the term lightly there) will find other ways to annoy people in game so it won't solve anything.

 

Exactly. On front-line you cannot shoot teammates. If I could have, I could have prevented one pushing my tank off the bridge by tracking him and driving away. The game did give me compensation for team damage, so at least that bit still worked. That was a pleasant surprise.

 

There will always illegitimate sons of dogs of the female persuasion (thank you Terry Pratchett). They will always find a rule to abuse. And you cannot have a game without rules. Changing the rules only means you change the way rules can be abused.



Steeleye_Spam #17 Posted 22 May 2019 - 08:29 PM

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oh look, another thread the same as the one last week, and the one before that. And oh look, people have the same views as before. Its amazing.

_RNG #18 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:20 PM

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than also remove collision or it dont work = lame game
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View PostBordhaw, on 22 May 2019 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

WG plan is to remove it by the end of this year. 

 

when the last player is milked ofc

wEight_Tanker #19 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:24 PM

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No.

Homer_J #20 Posted 22 May 2019 - 09:36 PM

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View PostJimboJones2000, on 22 May 2019 - 08:03 AM, said:

I've never thought that team damage would have been bad idea because of trolling players, but today I simply couldn't take it anymore. 

Check this replay and think about it. Should WG think about removing or changing team damage system?

 

Remove it no.

 

Hand out punishments earlier except for low tier autocannons and get rid of the blue status so people can't use it to gauge when to stop.







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