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_DeadWolf #1 Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:00 PM

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Sup guys looking for advice from some tech nerds. I just inherited an old laptop, maybe 2010/11 i think, wondering how well WoT post 1.0 update will run on this. 

 

Heres the hardware info after running dxdiag

 

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System Information
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Time of this report: 5/23/2019, 21:49:05
       Machine name: COSMOS-PC
   Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_gdr.100618-1621)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
       System Model: XPS L701X   
               BIOS: Ver 1.00 BIOS A09 PARTTBLb
          Processor: Intel® Core™ i7 CPU       Q 740  @ 1.73GHz (8 CPUs), ~1.7GHz
             Memory: 4096MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 4028MB RAM
          Page File: 2109MB used, 5945MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 11

 

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 445M
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GT 445M
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DD2&SUBSYS_046C1028&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 4058 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3034 MB
      Shared Memory: 1023 MB
       Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: unknown
         Monitor Id: LGD021D
        Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.085Hz)
        Output Type: Internal



VonniVidiVici #2 Posted 23 May 2019 - 10:05 PM

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I'd guess not particularly well, you can kill graphics settings to ease up on the GPU load but I don't expect much from a first gen i7 at that frequency. One way to find out for sure though.

SuedKAT #3 Posted 24 May 2019 - 11:17 PM

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It will run it, but you'll most likely need to tune stuff down to the extent that what you see ain't always the same as what's the hitbox on things etc, up to you to decide if that's playable or not.

 

There are the system requirements WG officially state:

https://eu.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wot/article/10249/

 

I'm skeptical towards those though, might have been the case pre 1.0, but to get something to run and to get a decent playable experience are two different things.



_DeadWolf #4 Posted 26 May 2019 - 03:43 AM

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Okay guys ive run into a serious problem... the game worked perfectly fine, getting 90+FPS on standard graphics and 25-30fps on advanced graphics with most settings set to off/low with terrain detail at medium (object shape detail to avoid the invisible walls)

 

now heres the problem... as i had to do a factory reset with this laptop i needed to download windows 7 service pack 1 so i could run a couple programs for my game modding on steam. after updating the laptop to service pack 1 and going to through 170 individual updates, 4 reboots with 1-4 update installations each, i tried to run WoT today but it crashed upon entering the garage saying that theres a graphics device driver error and i need to check the settings or try restarting, multiple restarts and still getting the same error... ive gone onto the Nvidia website to download the official notebook device driver program to automatically update the graphics drivers and still im getting the same error message when getting into the garage upon loading WoT.... before using the nvidia device driver program the driver was this version -

 

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 445M
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GT 445M
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DD2&SUBSYS_046C1028&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 4095 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3019 MB
      Shared Memory: 1076 MB
       Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: unknown
         Monitor Id: LGD021D
        Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.085Hz)
        Output Type: Internal
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 9.18.0013.3165 (English)
     Driver Version: 9.18.13.3165
        DDI Version: 11

       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 12/18/2013 14:42:50, 18199872 bytes

 

now after doing the update from the official nvidia program i get this driver version - 

 

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 445M
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GT 445M
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DD2&SUBSYS_046C1028&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 4095 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3034 MB
      Shared Memory: 1061 MB
       Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: unknown
         Monitor Id: LGD021D
        Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.085Hz)
        Output Type: Internal
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.8562 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.17.12.8562
        DDI Version: 11

   
   Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 10/15/2011 09:53:00, 15693120 bytes

 

10/15/2011 driver date instead of 12/18/2013.... so the update installed an older driver version... however when WoT WAS working, the device driver version was an even older date -

 

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Display Devices
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          Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GT 445M
       Manufacturer: NVIDIA
          Chip type: GeForce GT 445M
           DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
         Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0DD2&SUBSYS_046C1028&REV_A1
     Display Memory: 4058 MB
   Dedicated Memory: 3034 MB
      Shared Memory: 1023 MB
       Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
       Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
      Monitor Model: unknown
         Monitor Id: LGD021D
        Native Mode: 1600 x 900(p) (60.085Hz)
        Output Type: Internal
        Driver Name: nvd3dumx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvwgf2umx.dll,nvd3dum,nvwgf2um,nvwgf2um
Driver File Version: 8.17.0012.5939 (English)
     Driver Version: 8.17.12.5939
        DDI Version: 10.1

       Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
  Driver Attributes: Final Retail
   Driver Date/Size: 8/13/2010 10:35:00, 12476520 bytes

 

8/13/2010.... so i cant understand why the oldest driver version for the graphics card was the only version that WoT would work on... im really stumped and dont wanna have to resort to retracing my steps with a system restore back to before the service pack 1 update and finding out whats causing the problem, as it took a full 12 hours to fully complete the entire update process

 

oh and also every other game i have loaded onto this laptop so far works fine... its just WoT that refuses to run with the graphics drivers version


Edited by _DeadWolf, 26 May 2019 - 03:59 AM.


SuedKAT #5 Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:21 AM

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When you say the "official Nvidia program" are you referring to "Nvidia Geforce Experience" or something else?

 

While checking the support page for your laptop I'm not surprised to find that Dell lists loads of drivers and most of them are extremely out of date:

https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/xps-17/drivers?lwp=rt

 

 For example the latest driver for your card is this one:

Version: 391.35  WHQL
Release Date: 2018.3.27

 https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/132844/en-us

 

That's not exactly the one you got or the one listed on Dells support site, however there is a possibility that the card is an OEM card, in other words a Dell branded card and if you use the official Nvidia drivers they might come back and tell you that they are not supported due to it being a Dell card.

 

I suggest you do this:

View PostSuedKAT, on 25 May 2019 - 09:33 PM, said:

From other thread:

 

Then go here: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/intel-driver-support-assistant.html

You'll be able to download and install a "driver updater" for Intel related stuff, after installation you'll find an icon down in your notification center in the shape of a blue circle with a spanner/wrench in it, if you right click on that and select "Check for new drivers" it will most likely find a couple of Intel drivers that are out of date on your system which HP don't provide on their support page for your laptop.

 

Then since it's a somewhat older laptop I'd utilize a driver updater that I've used in the past to save you some trouble:

https://sdi-tool.org/download/

If you download the lite version and unpack that you'll get a file named "SDI_x64_R1904.exe" which is the 64bit version of the tool, open that and when the initial pop-up appears select "download indexes only", then change the ugly grass theme to dark so you can actually look at the tool, now you'll have a window that looks like this:

 

You'll most likely see a bunch of drivers that it have found that are newer than the ones you got, either create a restore point via the tool and select, download and install the drivers via the tool or just use it as a pointer to what drivers you're lacking. Also keep in mind that even if you can install multiple drivers at one time I would recommend to limit it to a few at the time and restarting your computer between, of course this depends a bit on what the driver is related to like if it's the chipset drivers or the USB hub, the first a bit more critical than the last.

 

Now you should have the newest available drivers, the only exception will most likely be your Nvidia drivers which I suspect are not supported due to it most likely being an OEM branded GPU which means that we might need to add your Dell card as a supported card so the driver install as it should. Was ages ago since I did that but if I'm not mistaken you add the "code" so to speak for your card in the nv_dispi.inf file and then it won't complain that the driver ain't supported just since it's an Dell branded card.

 

​Hopefully it's not an OEM card and the official drivers works just fine, since "modding" the official drivers to support an OEM card tend to be rather fiddly, here are some links describing how that's done:

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-inf-driver-modding-guide.377158/

https://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/8128-what-is-a-modded-inf-what-is-the-performance-and-quality-inf/



_DeadWolf #6 Posted 27 May 2019 - 12:45 PM

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Ah yes you make a good point there, I had downloaded a couple drivers from the Nvidia website when searching for the graphics card, but it wasnt until after i made my last post that i then downloaded the Nvidia Geforce Experience program to see if that would help but it didnt help, couldnt even register an account to use the program :sceptic:

 

I have a funny feeling it is an OEM card on this laptop but ill give your suggestions a try and see what i can work out.

 

also i know that it was the update to windows 7 service pack 1 that screwed the device drivers as i did another factory reset after finding out the Nivdiia Geforce Experience program was getting me nowehere, and WoT runs perfectly fine once again... though i cannot understand how or why it would work on a driver version dated from 2010.....



Shad0wize #7 Posted 27 May 2019 - 01:25 PM

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You can use the SD client, download wot tweaker to disable some in-game things such as smoke and fog which will also improve your fps.

Then you need to change the resolution of the game whilst still keeping it full screen, it'll tremendously increase your fps.

 

Finally, using wot tweaker you can even compress in-game textures to get better fps, it'll change everything aside from terrain texture which doesn't matter anyway since world of tanks cannot properly place hitboxes after god knows how many years.

 

 

I get 100+ running on my IGPU since my GPU burned down. :)






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