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arthurwellsley #41 Posted 27 May 2019 - 02:15 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 27 May 2019 - 12:15 PM, said:

 

This would be also my pick, but frankly T-55A is just flat out better.

 

Simply because while T-54 has to make a compromise between guns, T-55A has it all with a single gun. T-54 has more armor, but not enough to make a difference.

 

This got me thinking, so I tried a game in my T55A and had this game =http://wotreplays.eu...rwellsley-t_55a

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T55A is the best tier IX medium, better than the Russian mediums

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having only played 1 T9 medium, and haven't had it for very long either, I can only say from having to fight them, over actually playing them myself


 

personally, its the 430. there's a reason its basically the only T9 medium I ever see in numbers, and the reason cant just be "cuz TX is good".


 

T50's BC's progetto's E50's, if you removed them tomorrow, few play them anyway that they'd hardly be missed. sure, they can all work in good hands, but for the average bob? 430 has it better. no stock grind, armour, big gun, useable view range, decent camo.

why bother with anything else?



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View PostIsharial, on 27 May 2019 - 02:27 PM, said:

having only played 1 T9 medium, and haven't had it for very long either, I can only say from having to fight them, over actually playing them myself


 

personally, its the 430. there's a reason its basically the only T9 medium I ever see in numbers, and the reason cant just be "cuz TX is good".


 

T50's BC's progetto's E50's, if you removed them tomorrow, few play them anyway that they'd hardly be missed. sure, they can all work in good hands, but for the average bob? 430 has it better. no stock grind, armour, big gun, useable view range, decent camo.

why bother with anything else?

 

T55A is better than the 430, and its not even close.

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 27 May 2019 - 02:15 PM, said:

 

This got me thinking, so I tried a game in my T55A and had this game =http://wotreplays.eu...rwellsley-t_55a

i'll add mine: http://wotreplays.eu...81fe6052c0c882f

was the first game for the day. not my best but it will do for now, a average game is the best. those were you do 10 kills and above 5k damage are just RNG


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View Postpecopad, on 27 May 2019 - 02:29 PM, said:

 

T55A is better than the 430, and its not even close.

 

 

never see them. which speak volumes in itself.

 

ofcourse, that tank is not easy to acquire, so for the average bob, its not a tank they can even hope of getting


 

tbf, I don't even have that tank yet either, as I will barely ever be able to do HT-15 for it with a bunch of French heavies....



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View PostThe_Naa, on 27 May 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

i'll add mine: http://wotreplays.eu...81fe6052c0c882f

was the first game for the day. not my best but it will do for now, a average game is the best. those were you do 10 kills and above 5k damage are just RNG

 

Interesting that the WZ 120 with 3159 damage, 928 assisted, and 1 kill is base experience 849 = second class.

Whereas the T55A with 3255 damage, 1051 assisted and 3 kills is base experience 872 = third class.

 

Tends to suggest that the requirements for the T55A are higher, as it has a higher potential to do well, and is therefore the better vehicle?



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 27 May 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

Interesting that the WZ 120 with 3159 damage, 928 assisted, and 1 kill is base experience 849 = second class.

Whereas the T55A with 3255 damage, 1051 assisted and 3 kills is base experience 872 = third class.

 

Tends to suggest that the requirements for the T55A are higher, as it has a higher potential to do well, and is therefore the better vehicle?

 

 

or that not every noob has one ^^

 

T55A is a lot more difficult to get hold of given its a reward for the 3rd PM set..


 

id say that difference is down to simply better players owning the T55A, over it performing that much better than the WZ..


 

ofcourse, I could be wrong on that too...



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View Postarthurwellsley, on 27 May 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

 

Interesting that the WZ 120 with 3159 damage, 928 assisted, and 1 kill is base experience 849 = second class.

Whereas the T55A with 3255 damage, 1051 assisted and 3 kills is base experience 872 = third class.

 

Tends to suggest that the requirements for the T55A are higher, as it has a higher potential to do well, and is therefore the better vehicle?

 

View PostIsharial, on 27 May 2019 - 02:53 PM, said:

 

 

or that not every noob has one ^^

 

T55A is a lot more difficult to get hold of given its a reward for the 3rd PM set..


 

id say that difference is down to simply better players owning the T55A, over it performing that much better than the WZ..


 

ofcourse, I could be wrong on that too...

 

or the ''horrible'' stock grind… T55A comes with best parts right away.

i bought the best parts with free XP. got the top engine from WZ-111 1-4, top gun from 113,  so i only needed tracks and the turret.

 

anyone can grind painfully for the WZ-120 but it needs skill to get the T-55A

 

 


Edited by The_Naa, 27 May 2019 - 03:00 PM.


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Skoda for autoloader fun, T55A for good turret armour and DPM fun and E50 for all rounder fun. Those three pretty much cover all what you could want from meds.

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 27 May 2019 - 01:47 PM, said:

 

Interesting that the WZ 120 with 3159 damage, 928 assisted, and 1 kill is base experience 849 = second class.

Whereas the T55A with 3255 damage, 1051 assisted and 3 kills is base experience 872 = third class.

 

Tends to suggest that the requirements for the T55A are higher, as it has a higher potential to do well, and is therefore the better vehicle?

 

You'll be looking at around 6k battle for an Ace, same as the 430. This was a 1372 base xp for only a 1st class with 6k+ combined damage I still needed to land a couple of more shots if I had a chance for an ace. Annoying thing was, I happened to see Orzy streaming while at work the next day and he Aced it with 1420 xp base for about the same just vs different tiers so... that's where the bar's set or at least where it was at the time but it goes up and down.

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4750720#stats

 

Played the AMX 30 for the first time since my potato pc a few days ago and it took over 1400 base to Ace, standards are high for some tanks.

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4893080#tundra-tungstenhitman-amx_30_1er_prototype


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M46 Patton and E-50 for me.

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View PostSfinski, on 27 May 2019 - 02:08 PM, said:

Skoda for autoloader fun, T55A for good turret armour and DPM fun and E50 for all rounder fun. Those three pretty much cover all what you could want from meds.

 

I support this... because it's the onyl tier 9 meds I have atm :teethhappy:



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View PostIsharial, on 27 May 2019 - 02:53 PM, said:

 

 

or that not every noob has one ^^

 

T55A is a lot more difficult to get hold of given its a reward for the 3rd PM set..


 

id say that difference is down to simply better players owning the T55A, over it performing that much better than the WZ..


 

ofcourse, I could be wrong on that too...

 

I think its harder to play tier 9 tanks than to get the T55A, I speak by experience because I did the missions,but struggle to play tier 9 and tier X.

 

My advice is that its OK to play tier 9 if you are grinding tanks(like I do), but someone who wasn't able to get the T55A should just avoid tier 9 battles in medium tanks.



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I dont have swedish MT, so...

1-T 55A

2-Obj 430

3-T54



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View Postpecopad, on 27 May 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

 

I think its harder to play tier 9 tanks than to get the T55A, I speak by experience because I did the missions,but struggle to play tier 9 and tier X.

 

My advice is that its OK to play tier 9 if you are grinding tanks(like I do), but someone who wasn't able to get the T55A should just avoid tier 9 battles in medium tanks.

 

wut? :amazed: your advice is "don't play T9 if you don't have a T55A"? are you for real or just trolling?

 

 


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E 50, Skoda T50, T54/55 and 430, Patton, probably Standard B and the new swedish one and i also liked Leopard PTA.

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View PostIsharial, on 27 May 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

 

wut? :amazed: your advice is "don't play T9 if you don't have a T55A"? are you for real or just trolling?

 

 

 

Yes, you shouldn't play tier 9 medium tanks if you do not have the skill to get the T55A, and even then its questionable (like in my case)

Isharial #59 Posted 27 May 2019 - 05:06 PM

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View Postpecopad, on 27 May 2019 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

Yes, you shouldn't play tier 9 medium tanks if you do not have the skill to get the T55A, and even then its questionable (like in my case)

 

 


 

I don't know how you come to the conclusion that if you don't have a bunch of tanks that aren't mediums, then you shouldn't play T9 mediums.. because that is absolute garbage.


 

Since when does not owning any other class but mediums make you incapable of playing T9? you don't get enough orders to skip all but medium missions, so how would someone get the T55A otherwise?

id also like to know how you do HT-15 for the T55A with a T8 and under heavy tank, as that would be one hell of a game to equal 12k... you'd probably have to deal around 6k~, block 4k~ and then take the rest as HP, which is almost statistically impossible for the majority of people, especially in the current MM, probably even with a defender that kind of game would be rare


 

I think what is questionable is your logic :facepalm:



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View PostIsharial, on 27 May 2019 - 05:06 PM, said:

 

 


 

I don't know how you come to the conclusion that if you don't have a bunch of tanks that aren't mediums, then you shouldn't play T9 mediums.. because that is absolute garbage.


 

Since when does not owning any other class but mediums make you incapable of playing T9? you don't get enough orders to skip all but medium missions, so how would someone get the T55A otherwise?

id also like to know how you do HT-15 for the T55A with a T8 and under heavy tank, as that would be one hell of a game to equal 12k... you'd probably have to deal around 6k~, block 4k~ and then take the rest as HP, which is almost statistically impossible for the majority of people, especially in the current MM, probably even with a defender that kind of game would be rare


 

I think what is questionable is your logic :facepalm:

 

You do the other mission with honors and then use it for HT 15 and others...

And I wasn't saying you shouldn't play tier 9, I was suggesting that you shouldn't be playing tier 9 medium tanks, except for grinding purposes.






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