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Foch 155 vs Foch B. At what price is the 155 worth buying on the Black market?

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Sir_Armand #1 Posted 28 May 2019 - 12:24 PM

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Foch B seems to better in just about everything, except for Pen+Dam.
So I wonder, is the xp/credit offset worth it in the 155? Can it be played at T10 at a profit?

At what price in Gold/credits would YOU buy it?

I'm curious, since the Black dog, and AX were the only ones I was interested in, but I missed out on the AX. I pondered, but  chose not to buy the 183, since I wanted the AX. And the one remaining item I am somewhat interested in is the 155.

So what do you think?

Spartan_93 #2 Posted 28 May 2019 - 12:39 PM

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I would pay about 30.500.000 credits. Well, all credits i have, since V/IV is for gold.

Quintuss #3 Posted 28 May 2019 - 01:04 PM

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Both are meme-tanks. You can have some fun, but "strong" or "being regulary used in CW/SH" is neither:

 

Both struggle from having paper sides/roof/back and a front armour mostly negated by extremly obvious wreak spots - basically anything that isn't your UFP will be penned by HE so expect major pain from Arty/Derps and be warned that you cannot really sidescrape against most opponents (122mm guns will mostly go though your side due to 3x overmatch).

 

Basically you can choose between a 3x 750 autoloader and a 6x 400 autoloader - with the coupled differences in intra-clip reload, accuracy,....  As strong as they look on paper you usually just suffer from the lack of a turret: using the clipping potential without yolo-ing in is hard.

 

 

While i got them both i wouldn't spent credits of buying either (unless for sake of collecting the tanks) - you can simply get a much better tank for anything they can do. 6*400 with 2 sec intraclip of the Foch B sounds great, but realistically you can just take a T57HT and get the same 400 Alpha-2 sec intraclip reload combo but with a turret (and thus way more flexibility). The 3 shot 750 Alpha autoloader sounds scarry but in reality: odds of hitting all 3 shells are low and even fiering more than 1 at a time is hard as your 5 sec intraclip is a long time. Keep in mind that the enourmous reload means that if your first clip wasn't great the game can be effectively lost before you can shoot again. A boring O268 (not even the v4) has as much Alpha, slightly better pen and doesn't need to worry about when to go into a near-1-minute reload - it can instead take shots and still keep fighting.



Sir_Armand #4 Posted 28 May 2019 - 01:37 PM

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Yeah. I am worried about the playstyle. with 5sec/shot an unarmoured fixed gun is not a brawler unless in selfdefense, also, if you don't win that brewl, you're gone. 
As a sniper that takes three shots and relocates it should be useful. Unfortunately, there are not a lot of maps suitable for that tactic.

I gess I want just a little extra something more out of the event, but... I am very dissappointed with the majority of the tanks. I guess buying the 155 for a few million might feel pretty good, since it's the first time WG does that, but... Maybe I should just be happy with my Black dog and sexton. The sexton was more for the garage slot for silver than for training british artillery tbH.

Gremlin182 #5 Posted 28 May 2019 - 04:17 PM

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Foch B is I think a little better than the Foch 155 but for pure brutality the 155 is hard to beat.

Standard round is 257 pen 750 damage, HEAT is 395 pen 750 damage or you can do what the Type 5 heavy used to do and load HE 90 pen 1100 damage

 

 



roachex #6 Posted 28 May 2019 - 08:37 PM

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F155 is a decent tank.
You have armor - can withstand 310~ heat on flat ground frontally. Sides are 80mm, you can even bounce 183 AP. A big bummer is those weakspots on roof and being a big tinderbox - reliable 0.6 bounce coefficient I would say..

The gun arc is quite good (-10/10), though gun deppresion is not great.

Camo and view range are really good for a tank like this.

The gun is a french gun - it is fairly accurate, but sometimes gunner drinks wine too much. There is a saying 750dpm tank. Not entirely true, but sometimes frustration can happen.
When you get used to it, not that bad gun at all. Just dont compare it to MTs. Its a bit trolly 750 alpha gun.

Ammunition is actually great. Ap round has 297 pen, heat is 395 and HE has 90pen/1100dmg. Sometimes even prefer first clip with HE. The price tag for ammunition is quite cheap.

It is an ambush tank. As with all auto-loaders - conserving HP is the way to go. Be patient, snipe first clips. Hold brawling action for late-game.

Economics will keep you even.
Foch B is good when you play full APCR. F155 is good with mixed ammunition.

Is it worth it? There is no other tank like it. The gameplay is far from generic 120x4.





Ionutz3d #7 Posted 01 June 2019 - 08:58 AM

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View Postroachex, on 28 May 2019 - 08:37 PM, said:

F155 is a decent tank.
You have armor - can withstand 310~ heat on flat ground frontally. Sides are 80mm, you can even bounce 183 AP. A big bummer is those weakspots on roof and being a big tinderbox - reliable 0.6 bounce coefficient I would say..

The gun arc is quite good (-10/10), though gun deppresion is not great.

Camo and view range are really good for a tank like this.

The gun is a french gun - it is fairly accurate, but sometimes gunner drinks wine too much. There is a saying 750dpm tank. Not entirely true, but sometimes frustration can happen.
When you get used to it, not that bad gun at all. Just dont compare it to MTs. Its a bit trolly 750 alpha gun.

Ammunition is actually great. Ap round has 297 pen, heat is 395 and HE has 90pen/1100dmg. Sometimes even prefer first clip with HE. The price tag for ammunition is quite cheap.

It is an ambush tank. As with all auto-loaders - conserving HP is the way to go. Be patient, snipe first clips. Hold brawling action for late-game.

Economics will keep you even.
Foch B is good when you play full APCR. F155 is good with mixed ammunition.

Is it worth it? There is no other tank like it. The gameplay is far from generic 120x4.


 

Foch 155 is not decent , is trash. He needs a mega buff. U cant snipe with him (gun 0 acc), u cant be front = no armour, hes cupola has 0 armour. U die in 1 sec all the time. U cant ambush no one 5 sec is a big time. Reload for 3 shells 46 + is too much. IZY flanked.


Edited by Ionutz3d, 01 June 2019 - 09:03 AM.


undutchable80 #8 Posted 01 June 2019 - 09:32 AM

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Honestly, I find the question a bit silly since the Foch 155 is no longer researchable in the tech tree. Question should be: How much credits are you prepared to spend on a Tier X tank that was removed from the tech tree, and previously was thought to become available only for a (probably) massive amount of bonds, which less people will be able to afford than if it were sold for credits?

Vedrano #9 Posted 10 September 2019 - 05:56 PM

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When will WG fix the credits for the 155? It's premium now but when you play it you don't get premium (more) credits, OK battles earn around 20/30k only, wtf :/ 

 

 



VarzA #10 Posted 10 September 2019 - 06:33 PM

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View PostVedrano, on 10 September 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

When will WG fix the credits for the 155? It's premium now but when you play it you don't get premium (more) credits, OK battles earn around 20/30k only, wtf :/ 

 

 

 

It's a reward tank, not premium one, like the T-55A/Obj 260 and many others.

So no credit booster applied to it.







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