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[Sowa_95]

This is battle on Himmelsdorf. Look at the exp of CGC and E3. This is ridiculos. So arta does 600 damage and one lucky frag, and this grants him better exp than E3.

E3 did 2,3k damage, which is one tier X pretty much. I was watching him, he was fighting close combat on the banana (aka head banging zone), holding 2 tanks. He also has 4500 block damage, and lost all his HP, which is an exp for the tank role.

 

All this effort to be overtaken by arta with 600 damage.

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[Yaccay]

You forget the stun damage.

[Sowa_95]

1,3k stun, but what is stun damage? ffs, what does it do, why is it so important? Is it more important than E3 banging in the corner holding 2 tanks and eliminating whole tank? I just can't get over it.

[BlackBloodBandit]

Yaccay, on 28 May 2019 - 10:41 PM, said:

You forget the stun damage.

indeed, you don't show any assist damage (stun/tracking) the arty player received.

[Sowa_95]

BlackBloodBandit, on 28 May 2019 - 10:58 PM, said:

indeed, you don't show any assist damage (stun/tracking) the arty player received.

 

ughhhh ... I gues you are right, but still, this is bullshiet exp distribution.

 

Arta did 1.3k stun. Which apparently is more rewarding, than spotting damage (ridiculos). Because how else would you explain arta getting more exp than E3. Just cause of stun and one kill?

I've seen arta doing 3k damage, hitting clusterfck of tanks. I've seen 5k stun damage. They will get exp for this, whatever. Maybe they deserve it. But this battle was next level.

 

Or check that E5 one place above CGC. He has literally 12 more exp than arta. If not that kill he has, he would be screwed over too. WTF

It didn't matter in this battle, because they got 1 shevron for this, but imagine if this was place 3rd and 4th. I would go absolutely nuts and brake my keyboard.

 

Pic for stun damage, so you dont say I made that up XD

 

 

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[BlackBloodBandit]

It's weird indeed, but on the other hand: kills give a lot of xp. E3 didn't destroy any.

[Sowa_95]

BlackBloodBandit, on 28 May 2019 - 11:19 PM, said:

It's weird indeed, but on the other hand: kills give a lot of xp. E3 didn't destroy any.

 

E5 did 1 kill, survived the battle, and did 4 times more damage than arta. Only 12 exp more ...

[tajj7]

It's the kills. 

 

From what I have seen kills are worth around 100 XP alone, I had one game yesterday where I did 2.5k damage, blocked 1.3k, and did 2,5k assistance, but no kills, and another player in the same tank as me beat me to 3rd place (so two chevrons) with 2.5k damage, none blocked, and 400 assistance, they had over 100 XP more than me, purely because of 2 kills. 

 

I did far more for the team, but because of silly XP for kills system another player gets rewarded more than me.

 

I have had it the other way as well, I pipped a Super Conqueror player to the top 3, with less than HALF his combined damage, less blocked etc. purely because I had 3 kills and he had none, he had something like 9k combined damage and I had like 3k, he was clearly one of the reasons the team won, but didn't get the rewards because of kills.

 

XP for kills in ranked needs toning right down. 

[eldrak]

I managed to get outside of top 10 with two kills and 1300 damage so it can happen if the xp is spread very evenly.

[Geno1isme]

Most likely the CGC killed the enemy arty, that gives a massive "role-playing" bonus.

[Suurpolskija]

On the other hand, you can do 4k dmg with arty and still don't get a chevron if you don't get assist dmg. 

 

It's working as intended. Arty players get chevrons only by supporting the team and for counter battery. 

[pallie_the_artillerist]

I  do wonder if base xp calculations (so no role xp) are the same for ranked as for random battles. Kills seem to count for so much in ranked.

[Suurpolskija]

pallie_the_artillerist, on 29 May 2019 - 03:41 PM, said:

I  do wonder if base xp calculations (so no role xp) are the same for ranked as for random battles. Kills seem to count for so much in ranked.

 

They are different

[pallie_the_artillerist]

Suurpolskija, on 29 May 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

They are different

 

do you have a source?

[Sowa_95]

pallie_the_artillerist, on 29 May 2019 - 02:46 PM, said:

 

do you have a source?

 

WG said this. If the new exp system in ranked will pass the test, it will come to randoms.

[8126Jakobsson]

The role given to some tanks are bonkers. Like this 268 on my winning team that did 4277 + 1 kill and still ended outside the chevron handout. Bonkers, I tell you.

http://forum.worldof...0#entry16940970

[tajj7]

8126Jakobsson, on 30 May 2019 - 08:13 AM, said:

The role given to some tanks are bonkers. Like this 268 on my winning team that did 4277 + 1 kill and still ended outside the chevron handout. Bonkers, I tell you.

http://forum.worldof...0#entry16940970

 

Yeh its a bit stupid, because the 268 is a sniper, it should be with the Grille 15 and Strv, against tier 10 targets it has no armour, but apparently has to block damage to do its 'role'.

 

Also funnily the UDES 15/16, is in the same category as like the Leo 1, so it has no requirement to bounce (even though hull down on a ridge it can rival a Super Conqueror). 

 

They need to adjust it. IMO tanks should be waited on how good they are and you get more 'role' XP for the crapper tanks, cos like blocking damage in an E50M in ranked is a miracle and way harder than doing it in a 430U, but they are somehow in the same bracket. 

 

pallie_the_artillerist, on 29 May 2019 - 01:46 PM, said:

Suurpolskija, on 29 May 2019 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

They are different

 

do you have a source?

 

 

All the videos about the new ranked said it had a new re-worked XP system.  XP for kills is stupidly high, so I pretty much play ranked for kills now, if I can get like 2-3 kills then I know I am golden basically, largely regardless of the damage I do, it'll ensure I am top 5 on a loss and top 10 on a win, if not top 3.

 

Like 2-3k damage and 3 kills is pretty much guaranteed top 3 on win, unless 3 other people have more kills than you.  I have beaten people with like 5k damage and 4k assistance, with less than half that, just because I got kills and they didn't. 

 

It's very silly.

 

 

[Sowa_95]

8126Jakobsson, on 30 May 2019 - 09:13 AM, said:

The role given to some tanks are bonkers. Like this 268 on my winning team that did 4277 + 1 kill and still ended outside the chevron handout. Bonkers, I tell you.

http://forum.worldof...0#entry16940970

 

This is nuts, even better than my arta example. But hey, 800 damage ebola is more important right?

[8126Jakobsson]

Sowa_95, on 30 May 2019 - 09:50 AM, said:

 

This is nuts, even better than my arta example. But hey, 800 damage ebola is more important right?

 

Yeah he got proper robbed. Playing a bushwanker and does the most damage of all by shooting from the back….denied chevron because zero(!) role exp.