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saxsan4 #1 Posted 30 May 2019 - 01:47 AM

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Hello,

 

 

Just got the 25TP and its unplayable stock, like you can actually pen anything. 



CoreX_CZ #2 Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:38 AM

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It would be a huge issue if... there was ever anything decently playable in stock. It's like that with everything else, you have to deal with it for a time being, stock 25TP is always a bit of nightmare, especially because of that 40mm gun.

Edited by CoreX_CZ, 30 May 2019 - 02:38 AM.


PayToWinDude #3 Posted 30 May 2019 - 02:40 AM

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If you dont have free expiriance, or you wont use VISa for convert expiriance...dont even play any stock tank...its nightmare.

Nexuss9383 #4 Posted 30 May 2019 - 03:06 AM

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this is how WG get ur moneys - make the tank garbage stock so you spend money - its been like that since forever

Truntea #5 Posted 30 May 2019 - 05:06 AM

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View PostCoreX_CZ, on 30 May 2019 - 02:38 AM, said:

It would be a huge issue if... there was ever anything decently playable in stock. It's like that with everything else, you have to deal with it for a time being, stock 25TP is always a bit of nightmare, especially because of that 40mm gun.

 

The Italian mediums are playable as stock all the way though. They wont be the greatest, but they can work... however none of the Polish seem playable as stock, at least up till T6.

Balc0ra #6 Posted 30 May 2019 - 05:40 AM

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The thing I never got about that tank, is that all the streamers I've seen that has 3 marked it, inc Circon used that stock clip gun for it with no pen. 

 

Tho as it's a tier 5, the XP prices on the modules are not insane. So you can leave it and farm free XP elsewhere for a bit, and come back when you have a few K in storage. Or do a few dailes with it trying to get assist vs damage vs grinding it. As I tossed binocs on mine and spotted the few first games to get the turret and gun. 



ValkyrionX #7 Posted 30 May 2019 - 06:19 AM

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Polish tanks are "worth" up to tier 8, bad way of wg to force players to convert gold into free exp

 

Totally useless technological tree made only to please Polish players, in reality it has not added anything new to the game ..I will never grind this tech tree

 



PowJay #8 Posted 30 May 2019 - 06:46 AM

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I am currently on the tier VII HT the 45TP. Along the way I have only kept the 25TP because it keeps winning. I don't quite know how, as my average damage is too low for its 62.3% WR.

 

I don't dislike it. I seem to recall that mobility was good even as stock, and it is certainly not slow. I probably used (free) Free XP as I rarely play lower tier vehicles without some Free XP upgrades, but I don't remember how the grind went with this.

 

I have played it a few times the last couple of days for crew training and I almost like it. If it could only deal more damage more consistently, it might go on the keeper list. In any case, I will keep it unless, or until, it drops to 50% WR, and at the number of battles I have played, that wouldn't be too difficult.

 

I've just upgraded the turret and gun on the 45TP and it isn't a terrible tank. A couple more good battles for x2 and I should have the engine. I hope that will help what is a rather sluggish vehicle. The gun is pretty good, however.



Sowa_95 #9 Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:53 AM

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It's a tier V shitter, free exp the modules, grind it in 10 battles, forget it. Nothing to see here.

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PointZero #10 Posted 30 May 2019 - 07:57 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 May 2019 - 07:40 AM, said:

The thing I never got about that tank, is that all the streamers I've seen that has 3 marked it, inc Circon used that stock clip gun for it with no pen.

 

Very liberal use of prem ammo (as one would expect from someone trying to 3 mark tanks) accompanied by the fact that they know where to aim to make that 85mm work leaves them with a gun that has better DPM compared to the top gun that also comes with the added benefit of having higher burst dmg. Better aimtime & dispersion values, 200dmg with a 4,79 clip reload compared to 135dmg with a 4,79 reload.

 

View Postsaxsan4, on 30 May 2019 - 03:47 AM, said:

Just got the 25TP and its unplayable stock, like you can actually pen anything. 

 

Welcome to the PL tech tree, a free xp -trap all the way to the top.



vomalios #11 Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:04 AM

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View PostPointZero, on 30 May 2019 - 08:57 AM, said:

 

Welcome to the PL tech tree, a free xp -trap all the way to the top.

 

I've heard vehicles VII+ are at least decent. Tier VI is a garbage and I wait for some x5 to grind this because I can't stand how bad it is. 

Suurpolskija #12 Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:05 AM

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I thought everything about the polish tree was horrendous until I got the top gun on 40TP, which made it ok. 45TP has been a nice tank so far. 

 



Balc0ra #13 Posted 30 May 2019 - 08:20 AM

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View PostPointZero, on 30 May 2019 - 07:57 AM, said:

 

Very liberal use of prem ammo (as one would expect from someone trying to 3 mark tanks)

 

85mm when you consider 25% low pen rolls don't leave much room in a +2 game to be reliable. Early on you needed like 300 combined to get it to go up 2%. Past 90% it was 1K combined. And 85 pen is even a bit troll vs most lower tiers. I remember circon getting trolled by Hetzers and Matildas even. As past 85% he went more on binocs then the gun.

 

I found the top gun's 3x more pen to be more reliable in most matches when I did 3 mark it, vs bust and DPM. 

 

 



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One of the best tier 5 meds as top though :)

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View Postsaxsan4, on 30 May 2019 - 01:47 AM, said:

Hello,

 

 

Just got the 25TP and its unplayable stock, like you can actually pen anything. 

 

Not true. I have made over 200dmg in one game.

resheph73 #16 Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:00 AM

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View Postsaxsan4, on 30 May 2019 - 12:47 AM, said:

Hello,

 

 

Just got the 25TP and its unplayable stock, like you can actually pen anything. 

 

It's unplayable even upgraded, and it just lead to 40tp which is garbage. But 45TP gets better, just freexp both or if you are really into BDSM three mark them 

Sirebellus #17 Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:13 AM

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If you think the 25TP is bad wait until you get the stock grind on the 40TP - it starts with a gun that is pretty much the same as the middle gun on the 25TP... slightly higher pen, but worse dispersion... and with this gun you are up against Tier 8 tanks...

 

wolfsrain #18 Posted 30 May 2019 - 12:57 PM

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25TP is a rather surprising tanks when you have all the upgraded modules. It takes a wee bit of exercising, but i had a blast playing it after getting everything on it. 40TP it's the one that will frustrate you the most, but starting with 45TP the line is fine.

Edited by wolfsrain, 30 May 2019 - 12:59 PM.


Traxx293 #19 Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:33 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 30 May 2019 - 05:40 AM, said:

The thing I never got about that tank, is that all the streamers I've seen that has 3 marked it, inc Circon used that stock clip gun for it with no pen. 

 

Tho as it's a tier 5, the XP prices on the modules are not insane. So you can leave it and farm free XP elsewhere for a bit, and come back when you have a few K in storage. Or do a few dailes with it trying to get assist vs damage vs grinding it. As I tossed binocs on mine and spotted the few first games to get the turret and gun. 

 

Circon was using it as a scout and getting spotting damage. He got over 3500 spotting in the game where he 3 marked it. He didnt do much direct damage at all and with the 40mm gun, scouting is about all you can do with it.

FTR #20 Posted 05 July 2019 - 01:58 PM

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It's meant to be unplayable so you spend money to get free experience to max it/skip it.

 

There, your mystery solved.






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