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Suurpolskija #1 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:05 PM

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So, it's a nice treat today for us Twitch Prime subs. We get a brand new tier 7 american heavy tank, the Captured King Tiger. 

 

What are your thoughts on the matter? 

 

I've very loudly been a big fan of the German Tier7 premium heavy, VK45.03 in the past and compared to that, King Tiger is kinda heavy old girl. When you play them after each other the KT feels like it's stuck in the Lakeville valley all the time. The gun feels very inaccurate too, while I have very good crews in both. 

 

Getting the armor from a tier8 heavy, Tiger ll I find at the same time sort of ironic, but it doesn't feel that overpowered since it actually has legit weakspots and against tier7's even the turret front wont hold very well. Also I think the roof (40mm thick) can be overmatched by IS and KV-3. 

 

All in all it's nice to get a free tiger. It looks good, performs well enough, but I'll still prefer my VK45.03 over this. 


Edited by Suurpolskija, 30 May 2019 - 09:08 PM.


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My thoughts: if you don't want to make money selling tanks, you don't make money. Tier 7 Tiger II with the production turret would have been an instant buy. I found the tier 6 tiger work decently and expect the same of a tier 7 Tiger II. After all, the great big bonus WG gave to German tanks was a free +1 tier.

r00barb #3 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:14 PM

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My thoughts - with the Tiger 131 on tier 6 and now this on tier 7, the German heavy line should probably be revised to move the regular tanks down to match.

ExclamationMark #4 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:15 PM

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when where and what?

Don't believe I've ever seen the tank, and it's not on tanks.gg?



olmocap #5 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:32 PM

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Nice but... can you put german camouflages in that tank? Id really like to have the 3 tone camo



Suurpolskija #6 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:37 PM

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View Postolmocap, on 30 May 2019 - 10:32 PM, said:

Nice but... can you put german camouflages in that tank? Id really like to have the 3 tone camo

 

Probably not. It comes with the special style. I suppose if you remove that, you can put american camos on it. 

FluffyRedFox #7 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:38 PM

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I'm loving it so far. Really nice gun, good armour and mobility is alright. Seems to make a crap ton of credits too.

Nishi_Kinuyo #8 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:43 PM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 30 May 2019 - 09:15 PM, said:

when where and what?

Don't believe I've ever seen the tank, and it's not on tanks.gg?

Here it is: https://tanks.gg/tank/tiger-ii-h

Except they renamed and nerfed it.

Updated Stats:

 


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 30 May 2019 - 09:45 PM.


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Ahh... well that explains why I missed it. I did look at it, but nothing on the visual skin made it look like a captured tank.

https://tanks.gg/tank/tiger-ii-h/model?vm=visual

 

For anyone who wants to see how it compares to its other German competitors: https://tanks.gg/compare/tiger-ii-h?t=vk-4503~tiger-i~tiger-ii

 

TL;DR, statistically:

VK 45.03 is better in most regards, other than armour

Tiger 1 is worse in most regards, other than gun

 

Seems to basically be a standard T8 Tiger ll, but toned down slightly and with the standard German 88. Should be pretty powerful at T7 with that armour, but still has the terrible mobility. Use 105-octane if you've got credits to spare.


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Xanjori #10 Posted 30 May 2019 - 09:52 PM

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I have enjoyed the few games I played in it. I mean you get what you expect, its not got the DPM of the standard Tiger, but its still an ok RoF and good pen for a t7 gun. It also looks pretty cool imo! Not a bad tank all around in my opinion.

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View Postr00barb, on 31 May 2019 - 12:14 AM, said:

My thoughts - with the Tiger 131 on tier 6 and now this on tier 7, the German heavy line should probably be revised to move the regular tanks down to match.

 

You might have seen this before but there are some interesting designs/proposals...

 

Spoiler

 



Nishi_Kinuyo #12 Posted 30 May 2019 - 10:08 PM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 30 May 2019 - 09:47 PM, said:

Ahh... well that explains why I missed it. I did look at it, but nothing on the visual skin made it look like a captured tank.

https://tanks.gg/tank/tiger-ii-h/model?vm=visual

 

For anyone who wants to see how it compares to its other German competitors: https://tanks.gg/compare/tiger-ii-h?t=vk-4503~tiger-i~tiger-ii

 

TL;DR, statistically:

VK 45.03 is better in most regards, other than armour

Tiger 1 is worse in most regards, other than gun

 

Seems to basically be a standard T8 Tiger ll, but toned down slightly and with the standard German 88. Should be pretty powerful at T7 with that armour, but still has the terrible mobility. Use 105-octane if you've got credits to spare.

Afaik, special styles are never shown on tanks.gg, only the base model.

And the filthy murikan debased version was mentioned to be a special style.

View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 30 May 2019 - 09:52 PM, said:

 

You might have seen this before but there are some interesting designs/proposals...

 

Spoiler

 

Minor note: all E-90 variants are fake.

And possibly all other variants in those images could be fake.


Edited by Nishi_Kinuyo, 30 May 2019 - 10:09 PM.


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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 31 May 2019 - 01:08 AM, said:

Minor note: all E-90 variants are fake.

And possibly all other variants in those images could be fake.

 

Yes they're mostly fake but that sloped turret for the E-100 is a nice idea.

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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 30 May 2019 - 10:08 PM, said:

Afaik, special styles are never shown on tanks.gg, only the base model.

 

https://tanks.gg/tank/skorpion-g/model?vm=visual

https://tanks.gg/tank/skorpion/model?vm=visual

 

They do, apparently.

 

View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 30 May 2019 - 10:08 PM, said:

And the filthy murikan debased version was mentioned to be a special style.

 

Ahh, yeah, that'd make sense then. 



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Seen a fair few already. Not a prime sub atm, so did not get it. Nor do I want to reboot it for that.

 

Seems like it's a capable tank in terms of the gun. Armor is more or less like the Lowe one tier up. In the open they die rather vs most guns. Side or hull down as top tier they can bounce all day.



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I shall remain in the hope they bring the King Tiger across from PS4, one of the main things I was disappointed to find absent from the PC version.

 

https://console.worl..._Tiger_II_Hero/



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I saw two of them in opposing teams, while driving around in my T-50-2.

Nishi_Kinuyo #18 Posted 30 May 2019 - 11:34 PM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 30 May 2019 - 10:15 PM, said:

Skorpion G isn't a special style though.

So nice try but no cigar.



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View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 30 May 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

Skorpion G isn't a special style though.

So nice try but no cigar.

 

I was confusing special tank with special tank style... my bad :facepalm:

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I'm happy with that drop, might give it a go at some point.




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