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Zodiac1960s #1 Posted 31 May 2019 - 08:28 AM

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It's been six months since you mentioned it.  When  Can we expect it? 

vasilinhorulezz #2 Posted 31 May 2019 - 08:33 AM

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XxKuzkina_MatxX #3 Posted 31 May 2019 - 08:38 AM

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After patch 1.5.1!

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7thSyndicate #4 Posted 31 May 2019 - 08:51 AM

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it was garbage 6 years ago, do you really expect changes from wg in 6 months...

Zodiac1960s #5 Posted 31 May 2019 - 09:02 AM

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View Post7thSyndicate, on 31 May 2019 - 07:51 AM, said:

it was garbage 6 years ago, do you really expect changes from wg in 6 months...

I'm sorry for asking, Mass murder me now.. 



Geno1isme #6 Posted 31 May 2019 - 09:12 AM

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WG announced that after 1.5.1 which brings significant changes to mediums they'll work on "perfecting" the heavies, so probably August/September.

Dava_117 #7 Posted 31 May 2019 - 09:13 AM

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View PostZodiac1960s, on 31 May 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

It's been six months since you mentioned it.  When  Can we expect it? 

 

Hope will be the next, when MT rework will go live.

undutchable80 #8 Posted 31 May 2019 - 09:18 AM

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Lets hope the US HTs (T32, M103 and T110E5) also get some love 

Aimless #9 Posted 31 May 2019 - 09:19 AM

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View PostGeno1isme, on 31 May 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

WG announced that after 1.5.1 which brings significant changes to mediums they'll work on "perfecting" the heavies, so probably August/September.

 

This only means that it won't happen before 1.5.1 :P

Balc0ra #10 Posted 31 May 2019 - 09:30 AM

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View PostZodiac1960s, on 31 May 2019 - 08:28 AM, said:

It's been six months since you mentioned it.  When  Can we expect it? 

 

IS-4 has gone on and off the shelf more of then the Grille 15 in WG's heads. As they can't decide if it works or not. I suspect the ST-II plans died out too. E100 was mentined as part of a wider patch by patch balance change. Much like we had at the end of 2017 and early 18 with the UK and French TD changes etc, vs everything in one go.  As I'm sure you know, the German and Jap meds are next patch. Tiger II has been mentioned to come with the E100 in one of the next upcoming major patches. 



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View PostAimless, on 31 May 2019 - 10:19 AM, said:

 

This only means that it won't happen before 1.5.1 :P

 

Sure, but I doubt they'll delay it until Christmas (as it should happen this year according to the original announcement at WG fest).

ValkyrionX #12 Posted 31 May 2019 - 10:38 AM

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this is the turrets that the E100 deserves

 

this is the Type-C turret, definitely more logical compared with the design of the tiger 2 and e75 turrets


Surely it will not be impossible to penetrate with the gold as the current turret but surely it has a better design that would allow a greater probability of non penetrations of shots and some ricochet

The current turret of this tank has no logical sense compared to those used by the previous tier 8 and 9, so strictly speaking this would be the most sensible and adequate turret.

 

 

 

as far as IS4 is concerned , the only thing to improve is the gun handling and give it a bit more mobility and the removal on the weakspot/overmatch on the top of the turret  as it is not absolutely realistic as weakspot

 


otherwise it has a decent armor and does not need other types of improvements


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I'd presume they are waiting for the premium ammo tests to go through before touching the heavies because it will have a bigger impact on them than it would meds.

 

Doesn't really matter what ammo you should at a 30b or Leo 1, but suddenly everyone doing 25% less damage with prem ammo to an E100 is essentially a big buff, either it essentially gets a big HP buff, so it effectively has 3400 HP against premium ammo or people have to use more standard ammo against it and its armour becomes more effective.

 

In that situation a massive buff to it could make these tanks OP. 



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View Posttajj7, on 31 May 2019 - 09:47 AM, said:

I'd presume they are waiting for the premium ammo tests to go through before touching the heavies because it will have a bigger impact on them than it would meds.

 

Doesn't really matter what ammo you should at a 30b or Leo 1, but suddenly everyone doing 25% less damage with prem ammo to an E100 is essentially a big buff, either it essentially gets a big HP buff, so it effectively has 3400 HP against premium ammo or people have to use more standard ammo against it and its armour becomes more effective.

 

In that situation a massive buff to it could make these tanks OP. 

 

If they dont change e100 turret, and only increase its hp by 700 like you said, i dont think its buff its just one or two more heats you are getting in cheek. They need to angle a front side of turrent a little bit more, sides are okey if you use them like you should no way you are getting pend

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View Posttajj7, on 31 May 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

I'd presume they are waiting for the premium ammo tests to go through before touching the heavies because it will have a bigger impact on them than it would meds.

 

Well the E100 was listed as part of the getting planned buffs to compensate for the then planned "special ammo" change. The Leo and Type 5 was on that list too. 

 

 



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View PostValkyrionX, on 31 May 2019 - 10:38 AM, said:

this is the turrets that the E100 deserves

 

this is the Type-C turret, definitely more logical compared with the design of the tiger 2 and e75 turrets


Surely it will not be impossible to penetrate with the gold as the current turret but surely it has a better design that would allow a greater probability of non penetrations of shots and some ricochet

The current turret of this tank has no logical sense compared to those used by the previous tier 8 and 9, so strictly speaking this would be the most sensible and adequate turret.

 

 

 

 

That turret shape is only better then the old E-100 one if you aren't aware of the ingame armor mechanics tho. The box turret of the current E-100 allows for more efficient angling. That octagonal shape makes sure you can't angle the turret anymore, making it easier for shells to pen it (I assume same armor values).

So yes bad players will bounce more shots in their E-100, good players bounce less, because angling the turret isn't an option anymore.

 

In short, that turret shape would buff bad players & nerf good players. I doubt that is your intention tho.

 


Edited by UrQuan, 31 May 2019 - 11:08 AM.


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View PostUrQuan, on 31 May 2019 - 11:06 AM, said:

 

That turret shape is only better then the old E-100 one if you aren't aware of the ingame armor mechanics tho. The box turret of the current E-100 allows for more efficient angling. That octagonal shape makes sure you can't angle the turret anymore, making it easier for shells to pen it (I assume same armor values).

So yes bad players will bounce more shots in their E-100, good players bounce less, because angling the turret isn't an option anymore.

 

In short, that turret shape would buff bad players & nerf good players. I doubt that is your intention tho.

 

 

 

I do not completely agree with you, if the armor in terms of millimeters were decent it could be a good turret, the wg SHOULD be able to also insert this turret as a choice for e100 without removing the current one

 

it seems to me a sensible idea

 



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View Postdd_keky, on 31 May 2019 - 09:56 AM, said:

 

If they dont change e100 turret, and only increase its hp by 700 like you said, i dont think its buff its just one or two more heats you are getting in cheek. They need to angle a front side of turrent a little bit more, sides are okey if you use them like you should no way you are getting pend

 

I don't think they need to buff the E100 turret, not every tier 10 needs over buffed turrets. Especially if the premium ammo change happens which is going to be a massive buff to armoured tanks.

 

The ability to take like two extra shots gives the E100 the ability to trade 2 extra shots, that is potentially massive as it could be over 1500 damage and game changing. 

 

Just look at the Maus buffs, they gave that tank an extra 200 HP and it made a big difference, so they had to change it back.

 

All premium ammo doing 25% less damage is a massive buff to armoured tanks, you are thinking in too specific scenarios, not every premium round is 330-340 HEAT, think a flanking tier 8 med that has got an E100 side and needs prem ammo now only doing 180 damage or whatever.

 

Not every premium ammo round pens every time, it would give the E100 player more survivability those more time and chance to do stuff in game. 

 

 

View PostBalc0ra, on 31 May 2019 - 10:04 AM, said:

 

Well the E100 was listed as part of the getting planned buffs to compensate for the then planned "special ammo" change. The Leo and Type 5 was on that list too. 

 

 

 

Yeh it was but my theory is that in the special ammo testing these tanks became a lot stronger and they have decided to hold off for the moment.

 

The Type 5 wasn't on the list from what I remember, I think it was mentioned elsewhere. Plus it needed nerfing because of the gun being broken more than anything. 

 

Super heavies are going to be the biggest benefactors of the premium ammo change, the other tanks on the list, the Kranvagn, Leo 1, 30b, STB-1 etc. are less impacted by the change due to either less relying on armour or in Kranvagns case premium ammo matters little to its turret. 



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No money in it, so will be a long time still.
Most of WG's staff busy doing more premium tanks, you can buy.

TheDrownedApe #20 Posted 31 May 2019 - 12:26 PM

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View PostZodiac1960s, on 31 May 2019 - 08:02 AM, said:

I'm sorry for asking, Mass murder me now.. 

 

Is it possible to "mass murder" one person?? :trollface:

 

But, generally, WG don't reply to Qs posted in here.


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