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Special Shells Rebalancing: Taking Another Step Forward


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Community #1 Posted 31 May 2019 - 02:55 PM

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Hey everyone,
please share all feedback HERE in the Sandbox Forum.

Have fun testing!

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Edited by thePhilX, 04 June 2019 - 04:26 PM.
test is live!!!


KanonenVogel19 #2 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:06 PM

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Yes! Finally! :great: :harp:  :bajan:

 

Unfortunately you didn't post any information on the changes, so now we all have to sit and wait patiently...

 

Anyhow, looking forward to the changes, and personally I hope that you've eliminated the entire premium ammo concept and instead focused on having different shells for different situations that all cost (about) the same.

 

See you on Sandbox :izmena:



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Sounds good

thePhilX #4 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:10 PM

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View PostKanonenVogel19, on 31 May 2019 - 02:06 PM, said:

Unfortunately you didn't post any information on the changes, so now we all have to sit and wait patiently...

 

See you on Sandbox :izmena:

 

The test already starts next week, so enjoy your weekend with one of our current events (e.g. try out the new Kingtiger ©) and check out the details after.

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Free shells .. problem solved forever

KanonenVogel19 #6 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:14 PM

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View PostthePhilX, on 31 May 2019 - 03:10 PM, said:

The test already starts next week, so enjoy your weekend with one of our current events (e.g. try out the new Kingtiger ©) and check out the details after.

 

How can we enjoy the weekend when the thoughts keep running towards what you've planned with the shell rework? :P

 

Regarding the Königstiger, do you have any plans for the Deutsche Tiger II (H):)

Maybe we could have that one as a marathon reward? :hiding:



Denton_0451 #7 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:14 PM

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I hope this new concept will be better than the one outlined in the Supertest news post. Can't wait to see what you came up with.

 

View PostKanonenVogel19, on 31 May 2019 - 03:14 PM, said:

 

Regarding the Königstiger, do you have any plans for the Deutsche Tiger II (H):)

Maybe we could have that one as a marathon reward? :hiding:

 

I think it was a template for the captured Tiger so they could balance it without revealing their plans of making it a captured vehicle and there are no plans to release it to the public.


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View PostKanonenVogel19, on 31 May 2019 - 03:06 PM, said:

Yes! Finally! :great: :harp:  :bajan:

 

Unfortunately you didn't post any information on the changes, so now we all have to sit and wait patiently...

 

Anyhow, looking forward to the changes, and personally I hope that you've eliminated the entire premium ammo concept and instead focused on having different shells for different situations that all cost (about) the same.

 

See you on Sandbox :izmena:

 

Mostly because any presumed changes are subject-to-change. Upcoming tests will determine how far these changes will go.

ToodlePips #9 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:18 PM

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Interesting. I don't usually take part in tests, but this time I might actually do. This will be a crucial change of the game; we should all do our part to help Wargaming not to make a mess of it :sceptic:


I'm curious to see what they've come up with. Personally, I think the change is doomed to fail if there is no massive overhaul of armour layouts as well, i.e. more nerfs of massively over-armoured vehicles such as, for example, the 430U. But well, we shall see, won't we ...
 



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View PostToodlePips, on 31 May 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Interesting. I don't usually take part in tests, but this time I might actually do. This will be a crucial change of the game; we should all do our part to help Wargaming not to make a mess of it :sceptic:


I'm curious to see what they've come up with. Personally, I think the change is doomed to fail if there is no massive overhaul of armour layouts as well, i.e. more nerfs of massively over-armoured vehicles such as, for example, the 430U. But well, we shall see, won't we ...
 

 

When it comes to this: guys, we could really use your feedback. Also, testing is a good way of checking the upcoming changes. It always is :) 

KanonenVogel19 #11 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:23 PM

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View PostToodlePips, on 31 May 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

I'm curious to see what they've come up with. Personally, I think the change is doomed to fail if there is no massive overhaul of armour layouts as well, i.e. more nerfs of massively over-armoured vehicles such as, for example, the 430U. But well, we shall see, won't we ...

 

The game will still be playable even if they completely removed all high penetration (premium) shells. A lot of players play this game with a no-premium-ammo policy and still do decently, it's just more difficult. And nothing stops them from reducing armor a little bit afterwards if they get tanks that overperform. But I think it's difficult to do all changes in one go.



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View Postparim1331, on 31 May 2019 - 03:17 PM, said:

 

Mostly because any presumed changes are subject-to-change. Upcoming tests will determine how far these changes will go.

 

Except that you are asking us to participate, so it would be useful to have an idea of what mechanic we are testing this time round.  If not, then sorry, I've wasted enough time on the test server in the past trying to test new tanks/features, only to find practically everyone fires full gold ammo, making any such testing pointless.

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when are you able to download the sanbox client?

Denton_0451 #14 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:29 PM

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View PostCaptain_Tickle, on 31 May 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

 

Except that you are asking us to participate, so it would be useful to have an idea of what mechanic we are testing this time round.  If not, then sorry, I've wasted enough time on the test server in the past trying to test new tanks/features, only to find practically everyone fires full gold ammo, making any such testing pointless.

 

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 Full details of the changes will be announced just before the test, so stay tuned!

 



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View PostCaptain_Tickle, on 31 May 2019 - 03:26 PM, said:

 

Except that you are asking us to participate, so it would be useful to have an idea of what mechanic we are testing this time round.  If not, then sorry, I've wasted enough time on the test server in the past trying to test new tanks/features, only to find practically everyone fires full gold ammo, making any such testing pointless.

 

The problem with giving out any numbers is that some people might take them for changes already set in stone. That's why, to avoid any possible confusion, we'll announce the changes as soon as they will be ready to be tested.

Edited by parim1331, 31 May 2019 - 03:30 PM.


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Still..you could have shared some details about the concept of the changes. You only told us it is something different from the last one. This is a news post without any news.

Edited by R3b00t, 31 May 2019 - 03:31 PM.


parim1331 #17 Posted 31 May 2019 - 03:36 PM

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View PostR3b00t, on 31 May 2019 - 03:30 PM, said:

Still..you could have shared some details about the concept of the changes. You only told us it is something different from the last one. This is a news post without any news.

 

But hey! Now you have a date which you can look forward to, I know because myself, I will be looking forward to those tests. :)

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Well, before testing we already know nerfing damage wont work for sure. Nerfing OP armour should be done the same time as prem ammo testing. They go hand in hand. IS3 has to be able to pen Type 5, otherwise, there's no balance. With prem ammo or without.

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Will not be testing anything without knowing the details of what I'm spending time testing.  Knowing the details beforehand will not sway my conclusions. 

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View PostSfinski, on 31 May 2019 - 03:58 PM, said:

Well, before testing we already know nerfing damage wont work for sure. Nerfing OP armour should be done the same time as prem ammo testing. They go hand in hand. IS3 has to be able to pen Type 5, otherwise, there's no balance. With prem ammo or without.

 

That's the thing, we cannot know for sure before the actual tests.

 

View PostGruff_, on 31 May 2019 - 04:00 PM, said:

Will not be testing anything without knowing the details of what I'm spending time testing.  Knowing the details beforehand will not sway my conclusions. 

 

As it is written in the article, more information will pop up just before the tests.






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