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APoliticallyCorrectName #1 Posted 01 June 2019 - 04:31 PM

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TYPE 5 now has a bad gun, still has no armor when people press 2 (people press 2 90%) of the time... can't angle it like you can the Maus, so it's unplayable. WHY would you completely nerf the gun and leave the tank as it is? At least make it faster. NO, it's not faster. It's slow as crap, has 500 dpm and has no armor. NICE

And as for the FV4005... CMON? REALLY? When 215b 183 exists? Which has more armor, faster aim, less dispersion, more accurate, is faster and has more HP? REALLY? *Edited*


Edited by Nebiros_1, 01 June 2019 - 04:43 PM.
Non-constructive.


SuedKAT #2 Posted 01 June 2019 - 04:32 PM

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Uhmm no lets not.

SuNo_TeSLa #3 Posted 01 June 2019 - 04:36 PM

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1/10 for trolling effort..

APoliticallyCorrectName #4 Posted 01 June 2019 - 04:47 PM

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Not trolling... those 2 tanks should be removed and player base compensated for grinding the horrible lines or buffed so they're playable again. FV4005 was completely balanced before, Type 5 was stupidly OP but now, they're both completely underpowered. 

 



Amun_RA #5 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:00 PM

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Type 5 ???  Just no!

arthurwellsley #6 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:01 PM

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I will not comment on the FV4005 as I do not own it and have only played it on test.

 

Type 5 I own. I ground out the tier X because the Type 5 was a meta CW tank on some of the town maps. That thing was ridiculous and spoilt gameplay. The gun needed to be changed. It richly deserved it's nerf.

 

However did WG go too far and make it useless?

 

Well yes they possibly did. When you compare the gun stats and dpm of the SumoType 5 to the Polish 60TP which has a 152mm gun, the poor old Sumo is just about worse in every way. Possibly consider Leggasiini's old suggestions, or make the gun performance closer to the 60TP instead of inferior to it.


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dex_1950 #7 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:10 PM

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Literally no armor.

 

 



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View Postdex_1950, on 01 June 2019 - 04:10 PM, said:

Literally no armor.

 

 

 

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View PostSuNo_TeSLa, on 01 June 2019 - 03:36 PM, said:

1/10 for trolling effort..

 

So toxic just because someone dosent agree with you. I though swdish people was more tolerant.

APoliticallyCorrectName #9 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:22 PM

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by the way... this debate is unconstructive cause WG never makes mistakes. Like Stalin.

Edited by APoliticallyCorrectName, 01 June 2019 - 05:22 PM.


MrClark56 #10 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:23 PM

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Edited by Asklepi0s, 02 June 2019 - 03:25 PM.
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Dorander #11 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:33 PM

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View Postdex_1950, on 01 June 2019 - 04:10 PM, said:

Literally no armor.

 

<snip pic>

 

 

Funny. I get an entirely differently coloured picture on tanks.gg, involving a lot more red as the IS-3's 265mm pen APCR shell has a roughly 40% chance to penetrate these 275mm plates if it manages a 0% impact angle somehow. If you call a 60% bounce chance "literally no armor" then you don't know what "literally" means and "no armour" my rear end.

 

 

As for rebuffing these broken monstrosities, just no.



dex_1950 #12 Posted 01 June 2019 - 05:49 PM

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View PostDorander, on 01 June 2019 - 05:33 PM, said:

 

Funny. I get an entirely differently coloured picture on tanks.gg, involving a lot more red as the IS-3's 265mm pen APCR shell has a roughly 40% chance to penetrate these 275mm plates if it manages a 0% impact angle somehow. If you call a 60% bounce chance "literally no armor" then you don't know what "literally" means and "no armour" my rear end.

 

 

As for rebuffing these broken monstrosities, just no.

 

I was sarcastic. 

 

Buffing already hard to penetrate 2.9k HP tanks is stupid and pointless. 



staurinsh #13 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:01 PM

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Yea, buff it back, type 5 should do 1500dmg by splash not 600-800 like before.

barison1 #14 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:22 PM

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use the 14cm perhaps and not the shitty 15cm derp

 

nerfs were needed as it took absolute 0 skill to play type5, right click left click and do some 600dmg (cus lul higher alpha on gold) while they had quite the chance to bounce of you. alot of (bad) players were overperforming with ease in it due to this stupid derp

 

 

fv4005 was nerfed wrong way, should been lowered in alpha (by far) but more accurate etc. would fit the line more aswell instead of some massive alpha increase



Japualtah #15 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:29 PM

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You don't see type 5s anymore, even less than Maus.

I don't think I've seen any in Ranked.

 

Bad armor, bad mobility, bad guns: bad tank.

Now, if they change gold ammo, things will change, but now?

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KillingJoker #16 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:48 PM

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The FV 4005 could have some wheels and reach 55 kph... 

 

The type 5 i don't know... maybe give it the jagpanzer E100 gun (i think it could be mounted in that turret) 



leggasiini #17 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:49 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 01 June 2019 - 06:01 PM, said:

However did WG go too far and make it useless?

 

Well yes they possibly did. When you compare the gun stats and dpm of the SumoType 5 to the Polish 60TP which has a 152mm gun, the poor old Sumo is just about worse in every way. Possibly consider Leggasiini's old suggestions, or make the gun performance closer to the 60TP instead of inferior to it.

Just don't use the derp :^)



Dorander #18 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:58 PM

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View Postdex_1950, on 01 June 2019 - 04:49 PM, said:

 

I was sarcastic. 

 

Buffing already hard to penetrate 2.9k HP tanks is stupid and pointless. 

 

Ah, alright, sarcasm doesn't always transfer well in text so I misunderstood.

dex_1950 #19 Posted 01 June 2019 - 06:59 PM

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View Postleggasiini, on 01 June 2019 - 06:49 PM, said:

Just don't use the derp :^)

 

But then he needs to aim (and maybe learn weak spots). Which is hard for Joe Average. 

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View Poststaurinsh, on 01 June 2019 - 06:01 PM, said:

Yea, buff it back, type 5 should do 1500dmg by splash not 600-800 like before.

 

while you on it give it a 3 shot autoloader WG, tnx




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