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Make ISU 152 great again. Give back the BL10 gun.

ISU 152 BL 10 Restore Fun

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Dava_117 #121 Posted 05 June 2019 - 04:43 PM

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View PostZylon0, on 05 June 2019 - 04:35 PM, said:

 

Of course i did not mean waaay back, as you would not be able to hit anything.

Well maybe a barn by accident.

 

One of the most fun part about ISU is being at the front with HT. Being spotted here immediately scares the enemy that tends to be less prone to push. The old BL-10 was a joy to be played at corner peeking while enemy was reloading. Now is harder and you have chance to bounce even an IS-3 pikenose, so is less effective now, even if it's still fun!

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View PostDava_117, on 05 June 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

 

One of the most fun part about ISU is being at the front with HT. Being spotted here immediately scares the enemy that tends to be less prone to push. The old BL-10 was a joy to be played at corner peeking while enemy was reloading. Now is harder and you have chance to bounce even an IS-3 pikenose, so is less effective now, even if it's still fun!

 

Yeah and thats the purpose of the topic.

Why settle for some fun, when you can have more fun if they gave back the option to install the BL10?

 

Especially if there was no grounded reason to take away the BL10 in the first place.



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View PostDava_117, on 05 June 2019 - 04:43 PM, said:

View PostZylon0, on 05 June 2019 - 04:35 PM, said:

 

Of course i did not mean waaay back, as you would not be able to hit anything.

Well maybe a barn by accident.

 

One of the most fun part about ISU is being at the front with HT. Being spotted here immediately scares the enemy that tends to be less prone to push. The old BL-10 was a joy to be played at corner peeking while enemy was reloading. Now is harder and you have chance to bounce even an IS-3 pikenose, so is less effective now, even if it's still fun!

If you're bouncing off the IS-3 front...



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I managed to bounce a Bl-10 round off the side of an A-20 back in the day - I thought these weird bounces were part of the "fun" you are lamenting is no longer available? :)

Dava_117 #125 Posted 06 June 2019 - 06:39 AM

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View PostBaldrickk, on 06 June 2019 - 01:25 AM, said:

If you're bouncing off the IS-3 front...

 

This is the perfect case of the IS-3 still pointing at you. But usually he's angled because it's retreating and around 1/3 of the pikenose is better angled. With 260 pen is easier to bounce in this plates and, considering the bad soft stat of the gun, you don't have 3-4 second to aim just at the right plate.

As I said, I would keep the current gun if they buff soft stat so that it can aim in 1 second. ISU already sacrifice all it's long range capabilities for being avarage at most at CQC.



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View PostDava_117, on 06 June 2019 - 06:39 AM, said:

 

This is the perfect case of the IS-3 still pointing at you. But usually he's angled because it's retreating and around 1/3 of the pikenose is better angled. With 260 pen is easier to bounce in this plates and, considering the bad soft stat of the gun, you don't have 3-4 second to aim just at the right plate.

As I said, I would keep the current gun if they buff soft stat so that it can aim in 1 second. ISU already sacrifice all it's long range capabilities for being avarage at most at CQC.

It's a pike nose... It's generally easier to pen when angled...



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View PostBaldrickk, on 06 June 2019 - 08:54 AM, said:

It's a pike nose... It's generally easier to pen when angled...

 

On the half that get it's angle reduced, sure. On the other side not. 

And hitting this last zone happens relatively frequently. 

A tank that base it's gameplay on trade and fast peeks should reduce this random chance as much as possible, especially if it doesn't have the armour to compensate for a miss or bounce.



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View PostDava_117, on 06 June 2019 - 06:39 AM, said:

 

This is the perfect case of the IS-3 still pointing at you. But usually he's angled because it's retreating and around 1/3 of the pikenose is better angled. With 260 pen is easier to bounce in this plates and, considering the bad soft stat of the gun, you don't have 3-4 second to aim just at the right plate.

As I said, I would keep the current gun if they buff soft stat so that it can aim in 1 second. ISU already sacrifice all it's long range capabilities for being avarage at most at CQC.

 

1s? i hope you are joking as that is actual stupid. theres not a single reason to make it aim that fast

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View Postbarison1, on 06 June 2019 - 09:24 AM, said:

 

1s? i hope you are joking as that is actual stupid. theres not a single reason to make it aim that fast

 

Not intending to fully aim in 1 second. That would need something as 0.3s aim time! But at least to have decent accuracy. Like having, after that time, a 1m large aim circle at 20-30m. It would already be enought to aim at specific plates. So guess a 1.5s aim time would already be enough.

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Its now in premium shop called ISU-152K

Yaccay #131 Posted 11 June 2020 - 08:56 PM

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I found the BL10 gun for tier VIII Russain TD.

It is on ISU-152K.

I can not figure out why WG moved the BL10 gun from ISU-152 to ISU-152K.



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Did we need to bump a thread from a year ago? :sceptic:

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View PostYaccay, on 11 June 2020 - 07:56 PM, said:

I can not figure out why WG moved the BL10 gun from ISU-152 to ISU-152K.



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View PostYaccay, on 11 June 2020 - 10:56 PM, said:

I found the BL10 gun for tier VIII Russain TD.

It is on ISU-152K.

I can not figure out why WG moved the BL10 gun from ISU-152 to ISU-152K.

 

Maybe they just made a mistake.

Send a ticket to Support and I am sure

they will correct it in the next patch.



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View Postsaxsan4, on 11 June 2020 - 06:36 PM, said:

Its now in premium shop called ISU-152K

View PostYaccay, on 11 June 2020 - 07:56 PM, said:

I found the BL10 gun for tier VIII Russain TD.

It is on ISU-152K.

I can not figure out why WG moved the BL10 gun from ISU-152 to ISU-152K.

Did you two only find this out now?:teethhappy:



Inappropriate_noob #136 Posted 12 June 2020 - 01:40 AM

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View PostYaccay, on 11 June 2020 - 08:56 PM, said:

I found the BL10 gun for tier VIII Russain TD.

It is on ISU-152K.

I can not figure out why WG moved the BL10 gun from ISU-152 to ISU-152K.

You can't? Didn't you know WG are just money grabbing sharks out for a quick buck, seeing as the released the ISU 152k, it is hardly likely they are going to give the tech tree one it's top gun back. Cash over quality is what counts in WG's world, nothing more.



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