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arthurwellsley #1 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:40 PM

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This is a picture of a tank that has just been protected by the UK government as part of measures on the 75th anniversary to commemorate D Day.

(name the tank)


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samuelx43a #2 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:43 PM

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this is going to be real far fetched, but that turret reminds me of a valentine, but I don't remember those being at D-day, unless they were

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Das Boot :P

Kozzy #4 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:44 PM

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Valentine.

 


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Lemmingtrain #5 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:47 PM

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Maybe as the Valentine was the test bed for the Sherman DD?

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DD_tank

 

http://worldwar2head...-valentine.html

 

http://tank-photogra...ne-dd-tank.html

 

 

 



FataL_ShadowZ #6 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:49 PM

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They way the turret has become dislodged (at least that how it appears to me) it shares some similarity to that fugly T-103 :girl:

Dorander #7 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:53 PM

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Swimming Sherman! ... or Sunken Sherman. Looks like it's been under water for way more than 10 seconds :teethhappy:

arthurwellsley #8 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:53 PM

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View Postsamuelx43a, on 03 June 2019 - 03:43 PM, said:

this is going to be real far fetched, but that turret reminds me of a valentine, but I don't remember those being at D-day, unless they were

 

They did sort of;

 

and

 

Valentine DD tanks were part of 79th Armoured Division (Hobart's Funnies). They were trained for D Day but were not actually used (Shermans were considered to have made the Valentine obsolete). Two DD Valentine's were however used later in the war in two river crossings in support of Shermans.


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Laur_Balaur_XD #9 Posted 03 June 2019 - 04:59 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 03 June 2019 - 03:40 PM, said:

This is a picture of a tank that has just been protected by the UK goverenment as part of measures on the 75th anniversary to commemorate D Day.

(name the tank)

 

 

Protected? How? By letting him rot at the bottom of the ocean? :confused:



arthurwellsley #10 Posted 03 June 2019 - 05:04 PM

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All those who said Valentine are correct I believe.

 

The example in the photograph is a tank that sunk during a training accident off the coast of the UK in the preparations being made for D Day.

 

Note that some of the other sunken tanks "protected" are Centaurs.



samuelx43a #11 Posted 03 June 2019 - 05:29 PM

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lol, I somehow got it right. 

continuing on the topic, is nice to have a history relic there to remind us what it was like!



MattieW #12 Posted 03 June 2019 - 05:36 PM

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View PostLaur_Balaur_XD, on 03 June 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

Protected? How? By letting him rot at the bottom of the ocean? :confused:

 

some companies (China region) will raise wreckage from the floor in order to sell for scrap.

Laur_Balaur_XD #13 Posted 03 June 2019 - 05:44 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 03 June 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

 

some companies (China region) will raise wreckage from the floor in order to sell for scrap.

 

I don't think that lifting up a tank from the bottom of the sea just to sell it for scrap would bring any kind of profit.

Dorander #14 Posted 03 June 2019 - 06:30 PM

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View PostMattieW, on 03 June 2019 - 04:36 PM, said:

 

some companies (China region) will raise wreckage from the floor in order to sell for scrap.

 

Why would you think this is somehow specific or unique to China?

 

View PostLaur_Balaur_XD, on 03 June 2019 - 04:44 PM, said:

 

I don't think that lifting up a tank from the bottom of the sea just to sell it for scrap would bring any kind of profit.

 

It's surprising what some people would pay for a completely useless piece of someone or something as long as it has a good story behind it :rolleyes:. I'm not sure what the purpose of or method for protecting this thing will be but you'd generally not want people to start playing under water with a few tons of rusted steel carrying explosives, or trying to dismantle it for souvenirs, vandalizing the thing for whatever reason... the best thing is to either raise it and process it safely (whether that's dismantling or museum) or leave it be.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #15 Posted 03 June 2019 - 07:14 PM

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Well this is a Valentine DD as Lemmingtrain mentioned above. It was supposed to float...

 

like this Sherman

 

with the screen raised it could swim in relatively shallow water using two propellers

 


Edited by XxKuzkina_MatxX, 03 June 2019 - 07:16 PM.


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View PostDorander, on 03 June 2019 - 06:30 PM, said:

 

Why would you think this is somehow specific or unique to China?

 

 

It's surprising what some people would pay for a completely useless piece of someone or something as long as it has a good story behind it :rolleyes:. I'm not sure what the purpose of or method for protecting this thing will be but you'd generally not want people to start playing under water with a few tons of rusted steel carrying explosives, or trying to dismantle it for souvenirs, vandalizing the thing for whatever reason... the best thing is to either raise it and process it safely (whether that's dismantling or museum) or leave it be.

 

Pre atom bomb metal is worth a lot for medical purposes. Nothing to do with historical value.

TheComfyChair #17 Posted 03 June 2019 - 08:07 PM

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View PostLaur_Balaur_XD, on 03 June 2019 - 04:59 PM, said:

 

Protected? How? By letting him rot at the bottom of the ocean? :confused:

 

Could be classed as a war grave if any folks corpses are inside.

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 03 June 2019 - 03:40 PM, said:

(name the tank)

 

King Tiger ( C ) 


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Stevies_Team #19 Posted 03 June 2019 - 08:36 PM

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A whole bunch got swamped by waves off omaha beach

without tank support the troops got chopped to bits on the beach

 

http://news.bbc.co.u.../uk/2016280.stm

 

https://en.wikipedia...iki/Omaha_Beach



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View PostSchepel, on 03 June 2019 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Pre atom bomb metal is worth a lot for medical purposes. Nothing to do with historical value.

 

So any metal ore that was underground when they tested is also worth a fortune? (sorry if you actually meant what you said as a joke)




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