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Lov3ll #1 Posted 04 June 2019 - 06:02 PM

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I take it as the spotting mechanics have gone back to the old days.

Edited by Lov3ll, 04 June 2019 - 08:59 PM.
Please edit the first post with the correct video or we will lock the thread tomorrow. Regards,


BlackBloodBandit #2 Posted 04 June 2019 - 07:29 PM

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Lov3ll #3 Posted 04 June 2019 - 09:05 PM

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Maybe the bottom 1 works now. Not sure how to remove top one. If neither work maybe that link will.

 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=2QsHW_6824Q



Homer_J #4 Posted 04 June 2019 - 09:39 PM

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Replay because I can't see poop from that video.

 

There seems to be a bush which disappears when you go into sniper mode.  Could also be the fact that the enemies spotting points go behind that tree.  But being able to watch properly without the flicking in and out of sniper mode will help.


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Post an actual replay please, not this YT garbage. There's a tree at the edge of the cliff which disappears when you zoom in, and most likely breaks LoS. As Homer_J already mentioned.

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Zer0RNG #7 Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:16 PM

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yes since the last patch something is f-up with the spotting/bush mechanics.. it happen for me multiple times... tank disappear at 200-300m at reaper in 100m and I had clear view in my front..  

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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

yes since the last patch something is f-up with the spotting/bush mechanics.. it happen for me multiple times... tank disappear at 200-300m at reaper in 100m and I had clear view in my front..  

 

Same goes for you: upload to wotreplays.eu.

Homer_J #9 Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:40 PM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:16 PM, said:

yes since the last patch something is f-up with the spotting/bush mechanics.. it happen for me multiple times... tank disappear at 200-300m at reaper in 100m and I had clear view in my front..  

 

Are you going to post a replay or do I have to post that "100m" image again?

Zer0RNG #10 Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:43 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 05 June 2019 - 12:40 PM, said:

 

Are you going to post a replay or do I have to post that "100m" image again?

View PostPropjesschieter, on 05 June 2019 - 12:25 PM, said:

 

Same goes for you: upload to wotreplays.eu.

 

I will try to find it... but if u did not get it from the video OP posted... then u will not get it anyway ;)

btw Lov3ll is a good player and he is not making unreasonable complains... so stop trolling ... or stop posting 


Edited by Zer0RNG, 05 June 2019 - 12:48 PM.


Homer_J #11 Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:49 PM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

 

I will try to find it... but if u did not get it from the video OP posted... then u will not get it anyway ;)

 

I got it from this one which was 100m

 

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And this one which was 15m

 

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And this one which was 20m

 

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So yes, your replay will be most interesting.



OreH75 #12 Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:51 PM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

 

I will try to find it... but if u did not get it from the video OP posted... then u will not get it anyway ;)

btw Lov3ll is a good player and he is not making unreasonable complains... so stop trolling ... or stop posting 

 

Also good players make mistakes. I like driving lights and drove mainly tier 8-10 lights last weeks and in all my games I never observed any strange spotting behaviour. So I would like to see the replay as well.

Zer0RNG #13 Posted 05 June 2019 - 12:56 PM

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View PostOreH75, on 05 June 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

 

Also good players make mistakes. I like driving lights and drove mainly tier 8-10 lights last weeks and in all my games I never observed any strange spotting behaviour. So I would like to see the replay as well.

 

what was not clear for u from 2nd video?

OreH75 #14 Posted 05 June 2019 - 01:06 PM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

 

what was not clear for u from 2nd video?

 

There is no 2nd video, there are two identical videos but did you read this comment?

View PostAliceUnchained, on 04 June 2019 - 10:55 PM, said:

Post an actual replay please, not this YT garbage. There's a tree at the edge of the cliff which disappears when you zoom in, and most likely breaks LoS. As Homer_J already mentioned.

 

That is something we could check ourselves in a replay.


Edited by OreH75, 05 June 2019 - 01:07 PM.


Zer0RNG #15 Posted 05 June 2019 - 02:05 PM

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View PostOreH75, on 05 June 2019 - 01:06 PM, said:

 

There is no 2nd video, there are two identical videos but did you read this comment?

 

That is something we could check ourselves in a replay.

if he is zoom and he can see through there should not be any problem with LoS



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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

if he is zoom and he can see through there should not be any problem with LoS

 

Right, like that maus driver that complained he had no direct line of sight with an object 140 that was penning him with ease... Till the replay got linked & turns out there was a direct line of sight! He could even shoot the Obj 140 hull rather easy.

 

It is why a replay is so needed, people often remember things wrong, your brain will remember things in your favour, often erasing/altering things that don't fit with what you belief happened. It is also why a common advice is to watch your own replays to figure out why some things happen. Often rewatching a replay at your own leisure can reveal things you missed in battle & make you go 'oh I did not notice that! now it is clear!'

And when the clear doesn't come up, ask community for advice, link a replay & we'll tell you what (possibly) happened in friendly terms. Like that recent poster who wondered how he died in his IS-7; he posted replay, community explained it to him, everybody happy.

 

 

 

Edit; in OP vid; check where he stops, right before he goes sniperview: he parks in front of a bush, enemy tank is below him, so spottingsystem makes the tank vanish briefly, because he crosses the bush & that kills the viewrange of OP, he becomes visible again once the bush isn't obstructing the direct line of sight anymore.


Edited by UrQuan, 05 June 2019 - 02:17 PM.


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As others stated before, there is a tree in front of you, that probably makes you lose line of sight. Check the first 2 seconds of the video.

Homer_J #18 Posted 05 June 2019 - 04:52 PM

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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

if he is zoom and he can see through there should not be any problem with LoS

 

When he flicks into sniper mode the bush disappears, it doesn't go transparent, so it could be he can see through it or it could be a foliage removal mod, or it could be that it isn't in his LOS.  Besides that the tree canopy and bush near the enemy tanks may have been hiding the spotting points.  But since he flicks back and forth so much it's hard to see anything properly.

Balc0ra #19 Posted 05 June 2019 - 07:03 PM

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The question you should ask yourself is this... Where is that bush and tree in your sight? As you are def not that close to them that you should not see them. They block your spotting lines. Then he went behind more trees that gave him 50% camo alone. I'm willing to bet he had 80% combined with all that tree cover moving up. Thus why you did not spot him until he got past the fence and your spotting line got under the tree in front of you I suspect. Making it drop enough for your view range to spot it. As with no items blocking your spotting lines, he should be perma spotted going down there.

 

Could be a driver issue, could be a setting issue, could be your mods making that tree not appear in your sight. As it looks like you are not as close as you should be.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 05 June 2019 - 07:05 PM.


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View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:43 PM, said:

I will try to find it... but if u did not get it from the video OP posted... then u will not get it anyway 

btw Lov3ll is a good player and he is not making unreasonable complains... so stop trolling ... or stop posting 

 

View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 12:56 PM, said:

what was not clear for u from 2nd video?

 

View PostZer0RNG, on 05 June 2019 - 02:05 PM, said:

if he is zoom and he can see through there should not be any problem with LoS

 

Seriously... did you even check the video's yourself? And if you actually did, what is wrong with your perception and cognitive capabilities?






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