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Dadford #1 Posted 05 June 2019 - 09:51 PM

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Do you know if relaying skill for radio op adds anything of worth, like you get a share of damage assistance?

Laatikkomafia #2 Posted 05 June 2019 - 09:55 PM

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Apart from being a great meme of a skill, the answer is no.

 

The skill is utterly useless.



Dadford #3 Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:05 PM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 05 June 2019 - 08:55 PM, said:

Apart from being a great meme of a skill, the answer is no.

 

The skill is utterly useless.

 

Thank you :teethhappy:

Laur_Balaur_XD #4 Posted 05 June 2019 - 10:25 PM

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Absolutely useless.

bitslice #5 Posted 06 June 2019 - 12:02 AM

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WG needs to do a rethink on some skills, they either do little of worth or in the case of Arty, are completely irrelevant

ValkyrionX #6 Posted 06 June 2019 - 12:17 AM

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it serves almost nothing


Vaununalle #7 Posted 06 June 2019 - 12:47 AM

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Great skill.

Only best radio operators have it.



Dorander #8 Posted 06 June 2019 - 12:49 AM

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I've never picked that skill, ever. I occasionally notice in low level battles that I'm out of radio range and have no idea what my allies who are pretty much on the other side of the map are doing, and I can't affect that anyway so it barely matters.

 

Consider that the max rendering range is 550m, you can hit things beyond that range with blindshots but it gets really iffy if you can't see what you're doing so let's generously round it up to 600m. That means two tanks need to average 300m radio range between them to communicate. You hit that at what, tier 4?



Pansenmann #9 Posted 06 June 2019 - 01:14 AM

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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 05 June 2019 - 09:55 PM, said:

Apart from being a great meme of a skill, the answer is no.

 

The skill is utterly useless.

 

well, it depends on what tier you are playing.

for tier 3 teammates for example it can make a difference.

 

but yes, it is one of the skills you take when there is nothing worthwile left.

 

PS: ELC still has crap radio range, so a passive boost from a team mate might come in handy in very special situations


Edited by Pansenmann, 06 June 2019 - 01:15 AM.


UrQuan #10 Posted 06 June 2019 - 07:34 AM

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The skill isn't worth taking before others really. Albeit in certain situations it can offer something extra. Low tiers, because radiorange is bad there. At t8 it can also help in Grand Battles & Frontline, as some tanks don't have adequate radiorange for such large maps (not that many granted). My KV-4 has a radiorange of 1000+ meters (it is a mobile armored radiotower, yay!) & also has relay skill. In rare cases I can notice a tiny difference on minimap presented tanks when I drive the KV-4 vs Lowe.

At TX you got grand battles as well, but about all tanks got huge radioranges, so doesn't serve much of a purpose once more. 

Only general use I can think of is that it helps an ally maintain radiorange after his radio got damaged (which doesn't seem to happen that much)

 

Note: still only pick it if nothing else is left. The KV-4 has relay skill, because the radioman has trained all useful skills & perks already (including camo)



Laatikkomafia #11 Posted 06 June 2019 - 09:05 AM

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View PostPansenmann, on 06 June 2019 - 02:14 AM, said:

 

well, it depends on what tier you are playing.

for tier 3 teammates for example it can make a difference.

 

but yes, it is one of the skills you take when there is nothing worthwile left.

 

PS: ELC still has crap radio range, so a passive boost from a team mate might come in handy in very special situations

 

 

If playing lower tiers, relying on allies dealing damage is kinda pointless. At lower tiers, view range > radio range.

 

PS: If an ally is 700-800 meters away from me, they aren't going to fire at the targets lit up to begin with ;) The skill becomes essentially unobtainable when the commander becomes the radio operator, as SS, BiA, Sit. Awareness, Recon, Repairs (and with some tanks, even camo) > Relaying.



Steffin #12 Posted 06 June 2019 - 09:07 AM

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View PostVaununalle, on 06 June 2019 - 12:47 AM, said:

Great skill.

Only best radio operators have it.

 

Yes, but that is only because they had no other skills left to pick.

ExclamationMark #13 Posted 06 June 2019 - 09:09 AM

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I've been playing this game for years and I can safely say I've never used this skill.

BlackBloodBandit #14 Posted 06 June 2019 - 11:17 AM

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View PostDadford, on 05 June 2019 - 09:51 PM, said:

Do you know if relaying skill for radio op adds anything of worth, like you get a share of damage assistance?

Damage assistance? it's about radio range and has nothing to do with spotting.

It extends radio range so it makes a chain of radio range I guess?



Dorander #15 Posted 06 June 2019 - 11:32 AM

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View PostBlackBloodBandit, on 06 June 2019 - 10:17 AM, said:

Damage assistance? it's about radio range and has nothing to do with spotting.

It extends radio range so it makes a chain of radio range I guess?

 

Yup, basically. Normal radio: Each player has a radius for their radio range. Player A and player B can communicate with each other if their circles overlap, so in short if the distance between them is equal to or less than the sum of their radius...es? No idea what the correct plural is.

 

The relay skill allows players A and B to communicate with each other with the help of player C in the middle who has overlap to both of them, when players A and B have no overlap with each other.



Zodiac1960s #16 Posted 06 June 2019 - 11:37 AM

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Crew skills have always been messed up.  Some require 3 members and others 6. Sometimes the commander has some skills,  other times he doesn't..  The more members you have the more you spend on retraining.  It's dumb as hell.

Dadford #17 Posted 06 June 2019 - 01:44 PM

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I'll forget this skill then :D

crnakoza #18 Posted 06 June 2019 - 08:10 PM

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View PostDadford, on 05 June 2019 - 09:51 PM, said:

Do you know if relaying skill for radio op adds anything of worth, like you get a share of damage assistance?

 

It is a skill that is really made for very low tiers in mind, where radio ranges suck. But now it is pointless even on starting tiers since they are stuck on playing on small maps. When I started playing you could play malinovka on tier 1 and stuff like that.




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