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Object 279(E)... How hasn't it been nerfed yet....?


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Hellfoxe #21 Posted 06 June 2019 - 03:37 PM

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View PostRiggerby, on 06 June 2019 - 09:39 AM, said:

 

You're joking right?.... How does nerfing the gun handling help all the Tier 8's and 9's which will NEVER be able to penetrate this thing? How does it help 75% of the tier 10's which will never be able to pen this thing without loading gold?. It needs a frontal weakspot. Right now its just stupidly dumb op armour. No tank in the game has this amount of armour without a massive tradeoff elsewhere, Its not even like you can flank this thing as its more mobile then the things which will need to flank it!. 

 

Obj 279(e) is immuun to guns below 130mm and even proper angle can bounce off an type 5 shot. The only guns that can pen with gold are jg e100 and FV4005.

douglarse #22 Posted 06 June 2019 - 03:41 PM

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Guess OP got owned by one then eh?

nickdragon13 #23 Posted 06 June 2019 - 03:42 PM

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Dont worry, they will nerf it when I will get it

ExclamationMark #24 Posted 06 June 2019 - 03:46 PM

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You can point out all you like that only good players have it, doesn't change the fact that it's statistically better than the rest of the RU T10 heavies and statistically that is also reflected. 

The armour is the issue, you can't have a T10 heavy with this level of mobility and that much armour. Nerf one of those aspects, job done.



LordMuffin #25 Posted 06 June 2019 - 04:08 PM

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Who could have the a tank with OP characteristics would also turn out to be OP in gameplay.

Lucky us WG put the effort in to test wether characteristically OP tanks would also be OP in gameplay.

7thSyndicate #26 Posted 06 June 2019 - 06:16 PM

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Bacause it´s Russian

TankkiPoju #27 Posted 07 June 2019 - 06:52 AM

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 06 June 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

Chieftain and 279 became probably reward tanks, because they were to OP to be in the tech tree, so not all people can get them.

Just a guess.

 

It's the other way around: They were reward tanks so they had to be very strong or OP. Otherwise there is no incentive for grinding.

TheDrownedApe #28 Posted 07 June 2019 - 07:15 AM

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yup, confirmed OP

 

I took it out for a 2nd time and won.



lassekille #29 Posted 07 June 2019 - 12:00 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 06 June 2019 - 08:48 AM, said:

 

1. The pool of 279e tanks on EU server is tiny. wotnews suggests that there are 995 on the server. Source = http://wot-news.com/.../tankinfo/en/eu

 

2. The assumption is therefore that only the very best players on the server actually own it. It has been played for 109,954 games with a win rate of 65.28%.

 

3. But look at the top ten win rate owners of it, they do even better ( hint spot the players who are in clan FAME) (first column is number of games won, second column is number of games played);

The best players by the percentage of wins

 
1 GoTard_CarryBarry 76.57% 232 303
2 Emilia_FV 76.01% 995 1 309
3 PaPaPawian 75.86% 264 348
4 Type5gud 75.08% 247 329
5 Der_Mittelfranke 73.67% 235 319
6 SpartA_1ah1 73.14% 305 417
7 marty_vole 72.9% 304 417
8 Kack_Specht 72.64% 231 318
9 PL_Tomek_Tankista_PLman 71.99% 748 1 039
10 nikod 71.63% 298 416

 

You should check these players yourself.

 

The Obj279e is GoTard_CarryBarry best tier X tank (both damage and win rate).

 

Also the best tank for Emilia_FV (winrate not counting 2 tanks with few games).

 

For almost all players on the list the Obj279e is in the top 3 on damage and win rate for tier X tanks

 


Edited by lassekille, 07 June 2019 - 12:01 PM.


EllemennT #30 Posted 07 June 2019 - 12:27 PM

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Yes, it's very strong, but based on my ranked experience, it's only strong kicking puppies in randoms. Once you get into competitive environment it's no longer that good. 

 

Also, an interesting observation from ranked...I see a lot of 50% WR, 1500 WN8 players driving this thing in ranked. Some of them with less than 25k battles. I wonder how much they paid someone on ebay to grind it for them. 



SMR_FV #31 Posted 07 June 2019 - 09:00 PM

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View Postlassekille, on 07 June 2019 - 12:00 PM, said:

 

You should check these players yourself.

 

The Obj279e is GoTard_CarryBarry best tier X tank (both damage and win rate).

 

Also the best tank for Emilia_FV (winrate not counting 2 tanks with few games).

 

For almost all players on the list the Obj279e is in the top 3 on damage and win rate for tier X tanks

 

 

Did you consider the fact that a player gets better with time, of course  you're not gonna average the same in object 279 as in IS7 (or any older tier 10) back in 2011 (insert year). It's basically two different games at this point.

speedphlux #32 Posted 07 June 2019 - 09:14 PM

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To be honest, I prefer facing off versus WTF E-100s, rather than Obj 279(e)s.

Could be just me.



jack_timber #33 Posted 08 June 2019 - 08:25 AM

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Never seen one, yet, but I am sure that arty can dent it somewhat....

Corrupted_Pling #34 Posted 08 June 2019 - 08:48 AM

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I avent even unlocked the excalibur yet :)

HassenderZerhacker #35 Posted 08 June 2019 - 07:11 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 06 June 2019 - 12:27 PM, said:

 

I find this incredibly hard to believe.

 

Everyone knows there are no women on internet.

 

but there are ladyboys !

skero #36 Posted 08 June 2019 - 11:06 PM

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View Postpallie_the_artillerist, on 06 June 2019 - 09:35 AM, said:

Mobility is not brilliant. Its winrate and DPG are high because only very strong players have it.

 

I agree it needs bit of a nerf, probably just nerf the gun handling a bit.

 

A bit nerf xD

anonym_UhRD2GDAQG31 #37 Posted 08 June 2019 - 11:12 PM

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http://wotreplays.eu/site/4918243#malinovka-room418-is-7 Just had one of the battles. Problem wasnt also that 279 (e) in our faces, but also prem ammunition. And please, devs, use brains, if you have them. Or you, DEVs, are literly shitting on your players and kissing hands to russian players. No? 

anonym_r8Y9PmK5JoBY #38 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:43 AM

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Its like wg has given up, tanks like this breaks game-play and the game...just look at the tragic state RB´s are now...no one plays it.

Yaccay #39 Posted 09 June 2019 - 07:45 AM

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View Postpallie_the_artillerist, on 06 June 2019 - 09:35 AM, said:

Mobility is not brilliant. Its winrate and DPG are high because only very strong players have it.

 

I agree it needs bit of a nerf, probably just nerf the gun handling a bit.

 

False.

Everyone who got it, overperforming in it.

A player with 50% winrate actually achieves 60% winrate in its OBJ279.

This overperformance is consistent for every player.

Source:

http://wot-news.com/game/tankinfo/en/eu/ussr/R157_Object_279R

 

 

 

 

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gitgud_cannot #40 Posted 09 June 2019 - 09:36 AM

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i find chieftains much harder to fight against, 279 is ridiculous, but at least it doesn't have  -10 gun depression and mobility of a medium. 




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