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Sfinski #21 Posted 08 June 2019 - 06:04 PM

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View Post15JG52Brauer, on 08 June 2019 - 06:57 PM, said:

 

Fixed that for you ;-)
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For what it's worth I have had many good games in arty in city maps, and many bad ones - it's part of the game - just like a Type 5 player taking the chance of getting Campinovka -  it's the same for all classess more or less - they have strong and weak maps - in the long run it averages out - dont waste your breath raging at what you cant fix ;-)

 

Being part of the game doesn't mean it should continue being part of it. 

ExclamationMark #22 Posted 08 June 2019 - 06:07 PM

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 getting city maps in my arties 

Bordhaw #23 Posted 08 June 2019 - 06:34 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 08 June 2019 - 01:13 PM, said:

It's 2019 and artillery still spawn on urban maps?

 

Then pay premium and block those maps innit. 



NekoPuffer_PPP #24 Posted 08 June 2019 - 07:15 PM

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View PostBordhaw, on 08 June 2019 - 06:34 PM, said:

Then pay premium and block those maps innit. 

 

I got premium time from a campaign mission. Blocked Himmelsdorf and Ensk. Got Paris. :facepalm:



WindSplitter1 #25 Posted 08 June 2019 - 08:11 PM

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View PostUrQuan, on 08 June 2019 - 01:27 PM, said:

Look, I get to spawn on Prokorovka & Malinovka with my KV-4. Where i can feel as useful as an arty on Paris & Himmelsdorf. And that counts for any slow tank that can't hulldown.

Also, I dread lights in the engame in Paris/Himmelsdorf/other citymaps , especially when there's few tanks left, then those buggers turn into hunter-seeker killer tanks when driven by someone competent. Especially as it is very easy to break line of sight & the bugger can pop up anywhere.

 

I aced my Type 4 in Prokh - HT in open map

I aced my EBR 75 in Lake Debille - LT in city map (fwiw)

 

It's more than possible to have good games against all odds, provided that you are thrown a bone.

 

@Ontopic: SPGs in city maps and HTs in open maps isn't always a bad thing.

 

It's just some maps are unforgivable, like Ensk. Apart from HTs, all other classes are useless there, but in Himmels' there's plenty of places a clicker can ruin your day (game-wise, not the "reeeee!1! clicka ruins the game 'bacause' indirect 'faya'1!!").

 

 

On another subject, even though I agree with the OP, PPP, aren't you just another arty hater yourself?



15JG52Brauer #26 Posted 08 June 2019 - 09:19 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 08 June 2019 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

Being part of the game doesn't mean it should continue being part of it. 

 

Crying about it on the forum doesn't mean it will go away either .

NekoPuffer_PPP #27 Posted 08 June 2019 - 09:33 PM

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View Post15JG52Brauer, on 08 June 2019 - 09:19 PM, said:

Crying about it on the forum doesn't mean it will go away either .

 

...and making it go away doesn't mean the crying will stop cuz' people always find something else that tickles their nickels.

crnakoza #28 Posted 08 June 2019 - 09:38 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 08 June 2019 - 02:13 PM, said:

Can we all agree on this?

 

No, we can't. Ensk and Ruinberg are meh but workable. Himmelsdorf is actually fine for artillery. The only thing remaining is Paris, which is kind of bad, but that doesn't count because that map sucks for everyone involved. Get creative on Paris.

I_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I #29 Posted 08 June 2019 - 09:43 PM

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Removing Arta would be a solution.

Riggerby #30 Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:08 PM

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Good. The less ability those clicking vermin have the better. 

ExclamationMark #31 Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:14 PM

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View PostI_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I, on 08 June 2019 - 09:43 PM, said:

Removing Arta would be a solution.

 

Wouldn't make a difference, people would just start complaining about TDs 24/7.

As it is I far prefer arty in its' current state than TDs.



Blubba #32 Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:16 PM

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Can't recall my time in my Bert but the Bishop absolutely LOVES Himmelsdorf. It has to be one of the best maps for it. There is practically no where it can't hit without a little manoeuvring. Sorry but what goes around comes around. Either that or exclude the maps through the premium account option.

Japualtah #33 Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:20 PM

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I can use arty fine on all maps.

 

 

Unfortunately.



Sfinski #34 Posted 08 June 2019 - 10:22 PM

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View Post15JG52Brauer, on 08 June 2019 - 10:19 PM, said:

 

Crying about it on the forum doesn't mean it will go away either .

 

 Complaining about broken mechanic in a game is given, and competent devs listen to their playerbase. It has made it go through multiple changes, and far bigger than any other class. I'd say it's working, slowly, but still. And complains wont stop until it is removed. That I can assure you. 

LordMuffin #35 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:04 AM

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We can all agree it is ridiculous that arty still, in 2019, are allowed to spawn on any WoT map.


Edited by LordMuffin, 09 June 2019 - 12:09 AM.


15JG52Brauer #36 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:40 AM

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View PostLordMuffin, on 08 June 2019 - 11:04 PM, said:

We can all agree it is ridiculous that arty haters still, in 2019, are allowed to cry salty tears when arty spawn on any WoT map.

 

Fixed it for you ;-)

Balc0ra #37 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:44 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 08 June 2019 - 10:14 PM, said:

 

Wouldn't make a difference, people would just start complaining about TDs 24/7.

As it is I far prefer arty in its' current state than TDs.

 

One class will always get the hate, even if arty was not there. As in the class that ruins it for the other more played classes. FPS usually have that hate vs snipers. And the FPS that doesn't have a sniper class, well they still whine about something. So I suspect TD's would be it until removed. Then lights, then meds leaving just HT's left alone. As those are usually the targets getting picked on by the others.

15JG52Brauer #38 Posted 09 June 2019 - 12:49 AM

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Seriously though if WG did remove it and give all the XP etc back - then fine - but it wont happen  - WG has said that so  you can either keep getting your hopes up or adapt. Personally I would be happy with a limit of 1 arty per game - no one likes 3 arty games, that I think we can all agree on.

P33K #39 Posted 09 June 2019 - 02:55 AM

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In theory, I agree. Who the hell would bring spg's to a city.

In practice, they can work out fine on those maps if you lnow what you're doing. Sure it might be somewhat situational, but arty can work even on Ensk (that I blocked though, becouse of small map). Ofc it's not that massive damage always.

Sfinski #40 Posted 09 June 2019 - 04:58 AM

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View Post15JG52Brauer, on 09 June 2019 - 01:49 AM, said:

Seriously though if WG did remove it and give all the XP etc back - then fine - but it wont happen  - WG has said that so  you can either keep getting your hopes up or adapt. Personally I would be happy with a limit of 1 arty per game - no one likes 3 arty games, that I think we can all agree on.

 

Cause WG is known for keeping their promises... They lie all the time, so I wouldnt trust anything they say until they actually have done it, or the opposite of it, what they said.




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