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Csucskos #1 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:38 PM

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To be honest, I have no evidence, but have a feeling, that mastery badges are effected by premium account. I don't usually have p.a. but sometimes get it through missions or something, and I've noticed that I get much better marks, when I have p.a.

 

Again, I'm not sure if this is the case, but if yes, that is a big problem. For a long time mastery badges worth nothing, but I still liked to get at least 1st class on every vehicle. (Just to show off.) So this would not be a real issue if not for the new missions. The second front contains missions where you are obliged to get 1st class or even ace. So if the mastery badges are not based on base XP, but something else, it should be changed as soon as possible.

 

P.S.: Maybe I play better when I have premium account, but I don't think so.

 

P.S.S.: I think low tiers are broken in terms of mastery badge, but again, maybe only I don't know how to play tier 1 tanks. (It took me 140 battles to get a 1st class on the Renault FT...)



P33K #2 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:44 PM

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Been doing the second front last missions with and without premium lately and noticed no difference. Xp of course varies of the enemy tier etc, so the mm changes of course affect some.

onderschepper #3 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:47 PM

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The only imbalance of Mastery Badges is with the hit and miss nature of who has played X tank in the last seven days.

 

If it's 99% clueless individuals with no crew skills, then the Ace Tanker shall be a doddle.

 

Conversely if it's 99% old skool players with max crew skills, then it shall be much more difficult to obtain.



ExclamationMark #4 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:47 PM

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No.

Also since when is getting 1st classes an achievement? :confused:



The_Naa #5 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:49 PM

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why is it that when F2P player gets a taste of something premium, -> they have a good game = Tinfoil conspiracy. :sceptic:

Tramp_In_Armour #6 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:50 PM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 11 June 2019 - 08:47 PM, said:

No.

Also since when is getting 1st classes an achievement? :confused:

 

It is for me. :hiding:

PayMore #7 Posted 11 June 2019 - 08:56 PM

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I have the same feeling, OP. 

FrantisekBascovansky #8 Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:09 PM

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Why do you care?

BTW, i heard getting ace on tier 1 tanks is hard.



The_Naa #9 Posted 11 June 2019 - 09:53 PM

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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 11 June 2019 - 09:09 PM, said:

 

BTW, i heard getting ace on tier 1 tanks is hard.

 

it is, i can confirm.

it took me a 7 hours to get the Ace mark on the NC-31. thats half of my daily play time. :angry:

Tier 2 is easier tho, i aced the T-26G FT with the first game. Clean record. :)



Pansenmann #10 Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:05 PM

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After all those years, I still didnt get an Ace Medal for my IS-3 :(

 

I'd say it is easier to three-mark a Tiger I (H)



The_Naa #11 Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:11 PM

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View PostPansenmann, on 11 June 2019 - 10:05 PM, said:

After all those years, I still didnt get an Ace Medal for my IS-3 :(

 

I'd say it is easier to three-mark a Tiger I (H)

 

Tiger 2 was fairly easy to Ace.

i think the best kind of Ace tanker is when you just get it from a random good game without trying to actually get it.



crnakoza #12 Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:34 PM

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View PostCsucskos, on 11 June 2019 - 08:38 PM, said:

P.S.: Maybe I play better when I have premium account, but I don't think so.

 

Confirmation bias. Could also be that you play more expensive tanks (and shoot more premium ammo) when you know you get more credits to cover the costs.

WoT_RU_Doing #13 Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:47 PM

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View Postcrnakoza, on 11 June 2019 - 09:34 PM, said:

 

Confirmation bias. Could also be that you play more expensive tanks (and shoot more premium ammo) when you know you get more credits to cover the costs.

 

Maybe you need to look at the tanks you play. If you need an Ace for a mission, I check wotreplays.eu, and see what the people have had to achieve for all suitable tanks, then I play the one that looks easiest for the sort of playstyle that suits me. Much to my surprise, this resulted in me repurchasing the Churchill GC, and I got two aces and an MoE in around 30 battles.

I don't think it has anything to do with premium account, but if you're that bothered you could research that on wotreplays too (I suspect it'll disprove your theory though).



kaneloon #14 Posted 11 June 2019 - 10:53 PM

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I don't think that premium account has anything to do with mastery badge, how could it ?

 

On the contrary : in case it gives a better MM, it would mean that you have higher tiers or better team, and it is not what gives a "M".

A "M" is often the result of you Versus bad opponents, and bad allies who let you do the job.

 

I think that what you experience is playing tanks that lots of good/very good players are spamming, with the crew / food / special ammo that a non-premium player can't sustain in every battle.



Pansenmann #15 Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:54 AM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 11 June 2019 - 10:11 PM, said:

 

Tiger 2 was fairly easy to Ace.

i think the best kind of Ace tanker is when you just get it from a random good game without trying to actually get it.

 

well those have been my Pool's medal games...

LordMuffin #16 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:12 AM

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Is any tank particularly hard to ace since WG fixed the T1 bug and made it possible to ace T1 tanks again.

 

If I don't get a 1st class on a win, I would say I had a pretty bad battle.


Edited by LordMuffin, 12 June 2019 - 01:13 AM.


TankkiPoju #17 Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:46 AM

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Yes mastery badges are kind of affected by premium account, because many tanks require good crews to be really effective, and grinding crews is much easier with a premium account.

 

Heck, many f2p players don't even have equipment on their tanks, besides camonet and binos.

 

It's the same as shooting premium ammo, really. F2P players can't afford to spam gold in every game.



Blubba #18 Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:54 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 11 June 2019 - 07:47 PM, said:

No.

Also since when is getting 1st classes an achievement? :confused:

 

You've clearly never seen me play!

As for OP, can't see it myself. There's no advantage for WG to program that in if they don't tell you about it. In fact, I'd say it's comments which conspire to suggest that it is premium account time that adds so much to the account that sells more than anything WG could come up with. Assuming they don't alter the program, the best thing WG can do is to say nothing....and that's exactly what they do.



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #19 Posted 12 June 2019 - 07:48 AM

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View PostCsucskos, on 11 June 2019 - 07:38 PM, said:

 

P.S.S.: I think low tiers are broken in terms of mastery badge, but again, maybe only I don't know how to play tier 1 tanks. (It took me 140 battles to get a 1st class on the Renault FT...)

ITS NOT P.S.S

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View PostThe_Naa, on 11 June 2019 - 08:53 PM, said:

 

 

it took me a 7 hours to get the Ace mark on the NC-31. thats half of my daily play time. :angry:

 

 

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ON the topic, and I know im gonna regret it: Pz38T is a Mastery/XVM monster. If i only played this tank my XVM would be 4k. I range from 3 to 18 k XVM rating each game. Don't know why.

Edited by Asklepi0s, 12 June 2019 - 09:38 AM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inflammatory remarks


jack_timber #20 Posted 12 June 2019 - 08:04 AM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 12 June 2019 - 06:48 AM, said:

ITS NOT P.S.S 

06:52 Added after 3 minutes

 

Edited

 Did some one get out of bed the wrong side this morning?


Edited by Asklepi0s, 12 June 2019 - 09:37 AM.






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