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BearMoon #1 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:40 AM

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So,i was "afk" from a WoT for a while...

Just wanna ask what nation have best heavy tanks tree that can suit my gameplay style?

I am looking for toe to toe,hold the line,big tank that can be in one place and trade with good angle,looking for good armor,who is more like "bunker style" play.

So i am looking some bruisers that can trade a lot,and take some punishment,ussr?germans?japanese?I know how to angle but still i have a lot to learn about this game.

 

 

And i am looking for arty that have that one shot punishment,i dont care about aiming or speed,just looking overall that one shot which can deal good amount of dmg.

Thank you  :)


Edited by BearMoon, 12 June 2019 - 01:42 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 12 June 2019 - 02:04 AM

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Maus and M53/55.

Suurpolskija #3 Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:50 AM

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Big guns? 

 

60TP with 750 alpha gun. 

 

US arty line has T92 HMC as tier x with the biggest boomstick. Also the tier9 is imo the best arty in this game. 



Nexuss9383 #4 Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:21 AM

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get the obj 430u its pretty much a heavy with a med icon with better armor

 

for artys just pick any since they all do the same thing - annoy the other team :trollface:



jack_timber #5 Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:22 AM

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View PostNexuss9383, on 12 June 2019 - 04:21 AM, said:

for artys just pick any since they all do the same thing - annoy the other team :trollface:

 Yes but the American line do it so much better :)



Tyrrenus #6 Posted 12 June 2019 - 06:30 AM

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Arty: American 

heavy: anything “object”:teethhappy:


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Dava_117 #7 Posted 12 June 2019 - 08:38 AM

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You're surely searching for one of the following:

-Muas. Best armour in game. A steel brick that, when well angled, can bounce even premium ammo quite well. The ultimate tanker in game.

-E100. Armour is less reliable than Maus, but sports the best 150mm gun of all the tier 10 HT. Can slap enemy for 750 alpha, both AP and HEAT round are useful and the HE can still deal a good amount of damage to hulldown tanks.

-60TP. The other top alpha tank at tier 10. The gun is a 152mm with slightly better overmatching capabilities and AP pen than E100, but far worst HEAT round. It got a reliable turret and UFP, but sides and LFP are very weak.

-Type5. Good allaround armour, it's something in between Maus and E100. Armour is stronger than E100 but weaker than Maus and sports a 140mm gun with workable pen and 600 alpha.

 

Can't say about arty as I find their gameplay boring and play it only when I'm lazy or doing some campaign mission.



Knuddelwolf #8 Posted 12 June 2019 - 08:53 AM

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Arty line? The american line has 2 amazing ones: at Tier VI, the M44 is your best friend. Fast reload, quick aiming in, does a good amount of damage. And as the others said, Tier IX has the M53/55. That thing is just plain nasty. Germans have good boomsticks as well, but their Tier VIII-X arty tanks are a bit too large and slow.



BearMoon #9 Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:48 PM

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Thank you guys and i will follow your instructions,thx a lot.

But german heavy tanks,if i am corect,tier 4-tier -tier7 are not so tanky,is like more sniping shot tanks right?Bcuz to me they look so weak at arrmor dont know,how to deal with that,how to grind that line?Any advice?

I know japanese are like fool proof grind with np alo as ussr  heavy tanks.

(I must mention guys i am not at your level,i am still noobish in game)

:) 


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Dava_117 #10 Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:55 PM

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View PostBearMoon, on 12 June 2019 - 12:48 PM, said:

Thank you guys and i will follow your instructions,thx a lot.

But german heavy tanks,if i am corect,tier 4-tier -tier7 are not so tanky,is like more sniping shot tanks right?Bcuz to me they look so weak at arrmor dont know,how to deal with that,how to grind that line?Any advice?

I know japanese are like fool proof grind with np alo as ussr  heavy tanks.

(I must mention guys i am not at your level,i am kinda noobish in game still)

 

German HT from low to mid tier are not brawler. This doesn't mean you can't use the armour, but that you should not rely on it too much.

They usually sports good gun too, with usually nice DPM and penetration values. Like the 7.5cm waffle on VK36 or the long 8.8cm on the Tiger1. Still you should not play too much the sniper role but being a second to first line supporter, letting more armoured teammate tank damage while letting your gun sing during reloads.

But on Maus line, from tier 8 on you get a lot of steel bricks with tons of armour and huge guns.



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Which one heavy tank line?And which one arty line?

 

Super Conqueror and Conqueror Gun Carriage, so now you can get on with it!



BearMoon #12 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:02 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 12 June 2019 - 12:55 PM, said:

 

German HT from low to mid tier are not brawler. This doesn't mean you can't use the armour, but that you should not rely on it too much.

They usually sports good gun too, with usually nice DPM and penetration values. Like the 7.5cm waffle on VK36 or the long 8.8cm on the Tiger1. Still you should not play too much the sniper role but being a second to first line supporter, letting more armoured teammate tank damage while letting your gun sing during reloads.

But on Maus line, from tier 8 on you get a lot of steel bricks with tons of armour and huge guns.

 

So,basyicly,i just play supportive rolle behind "big tanks".But i guesss its worth when i reach tier 8 :) thx man.

What about usssr or japanese,they are overall brick tanks with good dmg right,but at tier 8 they are not that "tanky" as maus line right? 

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View Postmpf1959, on 12 June 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:

Which one heavy tank line?And which one arty line?

 

Super Conqueror and Conqueror Gun Carriage, so now you can get on with it!

 

British line?Man u sure about  that? it seems the hardest line of all heavy tanks in game :D

sokolicc #13 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:13 PM

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If you were afk you know what those letters mean on gun and tank stats.
Just look for yourself, someone is excellent with 5A, someone with Conq, Maus etc. Someone would give an [edited]for 277. Check it for yourself. :)
About arta - none of them. Avoid arta, be a man.

Dava_117 #14 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:18 PM

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View PostBearMoon, on 12 June 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

 

So,basyicly,i just play supportive rolle behind "big tanks".But i guesss its worth when i reach tier 8 :) thx man.

What about usssr or japanese,they are overall brick tanks with good dmg right,but at tier 8 they are not that "tanky" as maus line right? 

 

Well, except IS-4 line, that is in dire need of some rebalancing (not on armour tho), IMHO the USSR tanks tend to be easy to be played but, at the same time, easy to counter once you have some good game knowledge of the game mechanics. After all the buffs it got, IS-7 still is a mediocre tank and 705A is an avarage one trick pony. 277 is good, but far from tanky. 

Japanese all have really strong frontal armour and many sports a derpgun. They tend to be easy to be played, but until tier 10 they have problem at angling.



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What about british heavy tank line,they are supportive playstyle right?

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View PostBearMoon, on 12 June 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

What about british heavy tank line,they are supportive playstyle right?

 

More expert player on that line may be more accurate, but the british top tier are really strong hulldown tanks. They have good guns, with high pen and DPM and good gundepression. UFP is usually enought to block lower tier or same tier AP, but can be penetrated by premium. LFP is really weack, as the sides.

Many says that SConqueror is too slow, but I personally think that 38km/h is fine for an HT.



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View PostBearMoon, on 12 June 2019 - 01:45 PM, said:

What about british heavy tank line,they are supportive playstyle right?

 

Past tier 8 they focus on turret and hulldown vs full frontal armor. And their guns are about ROF and DPM vs alpha to scare targets off. They can hold a corner just fine at times. But if they get flanked by anything they will lose HP fast unlike a Maus that can even angle his rear a bit. Tier 7 UK might pull that off as top tier. But in general they are more about supporting the bigger armor and help the main push vs holding all day. Tho some can do that too. 

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View PostBearMoon, on 12 June 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

What about british heavy tank line,they are supportive playstyle right?

 

 



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Sorry to be a bit late to the party, but I didn't see this thread before. Unless you are planning on grinding SPGs for the Campaign missions, then I would say don't bother.


There is no one-shot arty any longer, at least not on the way up the tiers. I am on the FV3805 (UK tier IX) and M53/55. I have only just got the top gun for the M53/55 so I can't comment, but the FV3805 is supposed to have 900 HP average damage per shell. I regularly- and I mean almost every time I get a decent shot- do no more than 400 HP damage.

 

My average damage per GAME is 833 HP. My hit ratio is just under 30%. The average number of stuns per battle is 5, meaning that I do get to fire an average of at least five shells per battle. Although some may stun two or more vehicles, some do miss and do nothing. So let's say five shells per battle. Average damage is 900 HP per shell and that's a potential average of 4500 HP/battle. And I get 833 HP/battle.

 

OK, a lot of those games were without the vehicle upgraded, but I am still getting those 400HP MAXIMUM shots when I took it out the last couple of weeks for crew training.

 

It's the same in German and Soviet SPGs, but I use national languages, but "That was close!" is pretty much all I hear some battles. What is even more shocking is that a direct hit often results in a big clang and ZERO damage, ZERO stun, when I get 25 HP and 10 seconds stun when it lands 3 metres away.

 

if you want SPGs for missions, then UK/US arty is the ONLY SPGs required for Primary objectives in the Second Campaign, although others have stunning as a secondary objective. I even used the SU-8 to counter-battery for the mission to do 3,000 (now 2,000) HP damage to enemy SPGs, but I have not played even one more game in it since completing that objective.

 

All I can say- once more- is that I would never (or very, very rarely) play SPGs if they were not required for missions.



Xqual #20 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:11 AM

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Arty line USA. Stop at tier9 with the M53/55 the T92 is garbage without AP shells.
The french arty line is also quite good. they do low dmg, but has rapid fire and can outrace everyone to reposition.

 

For heavies? USSR just pick one, anyone.






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