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SplittingVoid #1 Posted 12 June 2019 - 10:24 AM

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Said everything in other numerous posts..

 

Now that it is on the live server, my opinion on its performance in one word.

 

Garbage.

 

thats all..have a nice day



Ricky_Baby #2 Posted 12 June 2019 - 10:57 AM

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View PostSplittingVoid, on 12 June 2019 - 10:24 AM, said:

Said everything in other numerous posts..

 

Now that it is on the live server, my opinion on its performance in one word.

 

Garbage.

 

thats all..have a nice day

I have found it to be excellent,perhaps its not suited to your playstyle 

And that was not a review,just the usual troll post  

that's all..have a nice day  :)

 


Edited by Ricky_Baby, 12 June 2019 - 11:00 AM.


tajj7 #3 Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:01 AM

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You were hardly stellar in it before so I am not sure your 'review' holds much water. 

 

It was good on test from the games I played and that was before the further buffs it got. I seriously doubt its going to be some uber meta tank but I also think its a long way away from 'garbage' 



8126Jakobsson #4 Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:25 AM

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I'm listening to Floppy's stream while I am playing myself. He's one of those weirdos that have always played the Leo. He likes it better now.

It's something. 



Nexuss9383 #5 Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:43 PM

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i like the punchyness they added smacking a rival leo or any other tank for a highroll of 500 is quite a nice number to see also having a good crew brings my aimtime to 1.5sec so im loving mine for now but its still team reliant 100%

Edited by Nexuss9383, 12 June 2019 - 12:43 PM.


hoveruss #6 Posted 12 June 2019 - 12:51 PM

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QB says it's awesome, and he's Godlike to me and I believe everything he says. <fanboi mode off>

TankkiPoju #7 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:03 PM

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No thin armored tank is worth it in this game unless it has an autoloader/autoreloader, or some other gimmick like high tier Swedish meds/TDs with autobounce armor.

 

The reason is you can't clip enemy tanks, trade effectively or track them (because they just repair and drive away), and take so much hit point and module damage from HE. IMHO tanks like Leopard 1 are just out of the meta.

 

Enjoy those drive by French wheeled memers, shooting your Leopard 1 for 500 damage while autoaiming. That unspotted 183 or FV4005? Good luck with that buddy, too bad German tanks dont have any camo either.

 

And WG didn't of course want to buff those hidden gun bloom stats because it's a German tank. Isn't that funny, enjoy also shooting the moon and ridges with the "accurate German sniper gun".


Edited by TankkiPoju, 12 June 2019 - 01:06 PM.


Balc0ra #8 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:07 PM

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View Posthoveruss, on 12 June 2019 - 12:51 PM, said:

QB says it's awesome, and he's Godlike to me and I believe everything he says. <fanboi mode off>

 

So it's better then the E50?

DangerMouse #9 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:18 PM

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View Post8126Jakobsson, on 12 June 2019 - 10:25 AM, said:

I'm listening to Floppy's stream while I am playing with myself. 

 

 

Corrected that for you!

 

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fwhaatpiraat #10 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:30 PM

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No disadvantage at all for exclusively shooting premium ammo, besides paying more credits. Great!

tajj7 #11 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:44 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 12 June 2019 - 12:03 PM, said:

And WG didn't of course want to buff those hidden gun bloom stats because it's a German tank. Isn't that funny, enjoy also shooting the moon and ridges with the "accurate German sniper gun".

 

They did buff the dispersion, its got better gun handling than a 907, its probably with the aim time advantage on par with a 140 and T-62A. 

gitgud_cannot #12 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:45 PM

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git gud pleb :D

Japualtah #13 Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:57 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 12 June 2019 - 11:01 AM, said:

You were hardly stellar in it before so I am not sure your 'review' holds much water.

 

*edited*

Tanks are not designed for the top players; in fact, nobody cares about the top players if not themselves.

*edited*

 

Aside from that, I have absolutely no opinion whatsoever about the Leopard.

Except that I lived for years with the real ones, but that's a very long time ago, I can't even remember how they sound.

Blitzing in the middle of tank platoons on my motorbike, on the other hand, I shall never forget, I was vibrating from the soles of my boots to the top of my helmet, that was a thing!


Edited by SilviettaG, 14 June 2019 - 05:46 PM.
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pecopad #14 Posted 12 June 2019 - 02:23 PM

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Don't understand why the L7 in the leopard is different from the rest of the L7's.... I think its criminal.

 

Why don't they just make up a German medium tank with the best stats in the game and solve this issue once for all. Just don't use the L7, put the Grille or the JPZ E100 gun in a RU with the Lowe cupola, and get over this, or else we are always going to have to listen to the German fanboys complaining about Russian bias.

 

This or give them the 430U GDR version... with better stats like the T55A ,because its German


Edited by pecopad, 12 June 2019 - 05:38 PM.


tajj7 #15 Posted 12 June 2019 - 03:23 PM

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View PostJapualtah, on 12 June 2019 - 12:57 PM, said:

 

No need to come across as a jerk, mate.

Tanks are not designed for the top players; in fact, nobody cares about the top players if not themselves.

If average players, which means the majority, which means WG revenue, don't like something, that thing is indeed garbage.

 

Nope, just nope.

 

Very clearly some tanks have been designed/balanced as being harder to play and higher reward, Leo 1 fits more in that category. 

 

If people can't make use of its attributes because they lack the skills, that is not the tank's or games fault, its theirs. 



Strizi #16 Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:43 PM

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They should have removed all counternerfs, 100 hp are not much but thats sometimes one shot more you could take - leopard 1 didnt need even the smallest of nerfs. The buffs are ok but i would have prefered heat for these annoying swedish tanks and a bigger accuracy buff.

pecopad #17 Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:45 PM

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View Posttajj7, on 12 June 2019 - 03:23 PM, said:

 

Nope, just nope.

 

Very clearly some tanks have been designed/balanced as being harder to play and higher reward, Leo 1 fits more in that category. 

 

If people can't make use of its attributes because they lack the skills, that is not the tank's or games fault, its theirs. 

 

Leopard is supposed to be a mobile, flexible platform for the L7 British gun, there is absolutely no reason for the buffs on the gun. I would have no problem if the platform was buffed with more mobility, acceleration, etc but changing the gun stats makes no sense, and it goes against the "spirit" of the tank. L7 is a gun shared with several tanks, there is plenty to choose from.

 

We have other paper medium tanks in WoT, its a game style we all know and some can do it, and other's can't. In the end all that made teh Old Leopard work will continue to do it, and the others who struggled will continue to struggle, specially considering this is one of the tanks most research by players in the EU server and usually, along with the Tiger, is one of the first tank players want (don't understand why...)


Edited by pecopad, 12 June 2019 - 05:46 PM.


tank276 #18 Posted 12 June 2019 - 05:55 PM

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Leopard 1 is definetely better than it used to be, same goes for Leo PTA and Mutz.

Didnt notice much of a buff in STB-1, Type 61 and STA 2, but it is still pretty early to judge.



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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 12 June 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

No disadvantage at all for exclusively shooting premium ammo, besides paying more credits. Great!

 

This is my main gripe with the tank... Giving something "better" APCR is kinda stupid, especially for a "designated sniper tank". HEAT is far better for sniping in WoT's current state. Give it that APCR a few years ago, sure woulda been nice. But now not having HEAT as prem ammo is a huge disadvantage.

Edited by ExclamationMark, 12 June 2019 - 09:42 PM.


Cobra6 #20 Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:30 AM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 12 June 2019 - 08:41 PM, said:

 

This is my main gripe with the tank... Giving something "better" APCR is kinda stupid, especially for a "designated sniper tank". HEAT is far better for sniping in WoT's current state. Give it that APCR a few years ago, sure woulda been nice. But now not having HEAT as prem ammo is a huge disadvantage.

 

Indeed, many people still fail to see that HEAT is the best sniping ammo as it loses 0 penetration over range, the only APCR good for sniping is that of the T92 light as it loses only 2mm pen over 500m (unique in WoT).

APCR is terrible for sniping as it losing more pen over range then standard ammo so penetrating armor becomes harder at range.

 

HEAT hates spaced armor but APCR will bounce off that spaced armour at range just as easily since it lost most it's pen.

 

This is why I think it's hilarious that sniping tanks get APCR premium while Russian mediums (brawlers) get HEAT, this completely flips the roles around.

 

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