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gitgud_cannot #1 Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:42 PM

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This one took the blacklist slot over from Paris, had many games on it where everyone camps the td hill and simply refuse to move from it for like 5-6 minutes. Tnx wg but im not playing it, until teams stop acting like monkeys on that map. Its just my opinion, but old kharkov was fine as it was, these changes have made it into useless garbage.

ThinGun #2 Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:49 PM

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View PostMajor_Gitgud, on 13 June 2019 - 04:42 PM, said:

This one took the blacklist slot over from Paris, had many games on it where everyone camps the td hill and simply refuse to move from it for like 5-6 minutes. Tnx wg but im not playing it, until teams stop acting like monkeys on that map. Its just my opinion, but old kharkov was fine as it was, these changes have made it into useless garbage.

 

Only played it once (in a TD) and spent the whole time running around looking for better firing lines.  Even ended up in town defending the cap circle at one point.

 

A proper hoot.

 

I'd suggest your bad experience was due to the teams, not the map.



crnakoza #3 Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:04 PM

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It is the "new" map which many players haven't seen, and even for those of us who played it before it is a new experience. When new maps are introduced gameplay on them is always a total shitshow until people learn the map. I so far had one game on it, and it was fine.

shikaka9 #4 Posted 13 June 2019 - 05:11 PM

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there goes learning of new map :trollface: such learning much map wow

gitgud_cannot #5 Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:06 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 13 June 2019 - 06:11 PM, said:

there goes learning of new map :trollface: such learning much map wow

 

indeed, how can you learn the map if you dont leave the spawn lul

Homer_J #6 Posted 13 June 2019 - 08:26 PM

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View PostMajor_Gitgud, on 13 June 2019 - 07:06 PM, said:

 

indeed, how can you learn the map if you dont leave the spawn lul

 

Most players wait for the "good" players to learn the map then follow their lead.

 

If the good players are going to block it then how will they ever learn.



TankkiPoju #7 Posted 14 June 2019 - 06:32 AM

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Kharkov is alright, but it's just another map from WG's "gotta have something for everyone" school of map design.

 

So it has few bushes for lights, some town for heavies, ridges for meds and camping spots for TDs. No water for arties to drown though, I guess WG forgot that.

 

It's much better than Paris.



Tyrrenus #8 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:17 AM

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I had a couple of good, extremely intense games in Karkov. One was a win, one was a loss. But I like the map. 

anonym_Z2kv0BD9jwqB #9 Posted 14 June 2019 - 07:31 AM

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One side of the map (open plains) are dream for TD I think. I devastated enemy team in Marder II.They just poured to me one by one untill no one was left.

facmanpob #10 Posted 14 June 2019 - 11:52 AM

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I've played it twice so far, once from either spawn. Both times I played around in the city and both times we won the battle. I need more time on it in medium tanks to explore more of the map, but so far its OK.

Sirebellus #11 Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:10 PM

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View PostMajor_Gitgud, on 13 June 2019 - 04:42 PM, said:

This one took the blacklist slot over from Paris, had many games on it where everyone camps the td hill

 

Not played it at all myself... but then I have only played 15 games since it was released.
I was going to question OP's use of the word 'many' but then I saw how many games he had played over the past couple of days he certainly could have played 'several' games on it.

But as the others have said it's a bit early to block it because you don't like the way people who are playing the map for the first or second time are playing it, The Red team will likely have just as many players on it who haven't got a clue what they are doing, so with more map knowledge than the enemies from the 'many' games you've played on it you should be able to seal club them !

gitgud_cannot #12 Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:49 PM

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maybe i was "lucky" to get that map quite frequently, it will stay on my blacklist for at least few weeks, good to hear that many of you had positive experience on it, but whenever there is mainly tds and meds in team, it was total campfest. Had 1 good game on it with wz111-1-4 in city farming maus and friends and thats all, the rest was total bs. 

gav00 #13 Posted 14 June 2019 - 12:56 PM

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Had this map a couple of times and in my opinion it is one of the better maps.

 

There are positions suitable for all vehicle types (something very rare on a city-esque map), there are plenty of flanking opportunities, the only issue I have with it is that the south spawn gets a low lying piece of land to play around and hide in that the north dosen't get to the same degree.



BlackBloodBandit #14 Posted 14 June 2019 - 06:45 PM

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there's already a topic about Kharkov map. next time use search function...

it's made disgusting. field is only good for campers, mostly td's. city is only punishing active playing as well. only hull-down tanks have good positions, if they don't have huge cupola's or at least good gun handling.



SteVer1n0 #15 Posted 14 June 2019 - 06:56 PM

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Until they allow 1 man training rooms where good players can study the map for a good 15-30 minutes conveniently (which they said will never happen because of server load or something) then new maps will be blacklisted without mercy. This looks like another Minsk clone but at least there are safe hulldown pokes which makes it less aggravating to play 7/8/9/0.

Bordhaw #16 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:11 PM

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View PostMajor_Gitgud, on 13 June 2019 - 03:42 PM, said:

This one took the blacklist slot over from Paris, had many games on it where everyone camps the td hill and simply refuse to move from it for like 5-6 minutes. Tnx wg but im not playing it, until teams stop acting like monkeys on that map. Its just my opinion, but old kharkov was fine as it was, these changes have made it into useless garbage.

 

It's practically a brand new map less than a few days old. People need to learn it ffs. 

Schepel #17 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:14 PM

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Got it three times. Contrary to my expectations when I saw the map, it appears to be both balanced and reasonably fun to play. Only time will tell if it is balanced, but for now I like it.



the_nebuchadnezzar #18 Posted 14 June 2019 - 08:35 PM

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I think the old map was better. This one is like a cheap chinese copy. Played 4 games on it and all where strange boring battles. No one really use the city...

7thSyndicate #19 Posted 15 June 2019 - 01:33 AM

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I like the map, good open areas are allways welcome

KanonenVogel19 #20 Posted 15 June 2019 - 09:50 AM

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I don't agree, previous Kharkov was a complete mess that only favoured HTs. LTs where out of a job because everyone spotted for themselves, TDs could not shoot without getting spotted, and SPGs could not do anything because there was a building in the way everywhere. Of course, if you play mostly HTs, no wonder you liked it, but let's keep in mind that other classes should be enjoyable too or else they might aswell be removed.

 

So far I've had one battle on the new Kharkov and I must say that I really like it so far. Sure, a few improvements could be made, but that applies to all maps, even the best ones like Prokhorovka and Sand River. I have to say that so far I think the new Kharkov goes into atleast top 10 maps, and I would never waste a blacklist slot on that map.






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