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E_nom1ne #1 Posted 13 June 2019 - 06:56 PM

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Please, dear WG, answer me. AMX 30B ever will get buff??? I invested so much time on that line, and if that tank will remain so weak  forever... i will have no other choise and have to find another game, that will not make my time pointless... :(  I just want to know is there any hope for this line  or not ?

Xandania #2 Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:13 PM

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Well, it is a support/2nd line heavy - but as its autoloading brothers at tier 8 and 9 it is quite good in that role.

 

How often did I think I had that nasty heavy killed just to be shot repeatedly to death by one of these siblings.

It just isn't a frontline heavy and arty loves it.



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View PostXandania, on 13 June 2019 - 07:13 PM, said:

Well, it is a support/2nd line heavy - but as its autoloading brothers at tier 8 and 9 it is quite good in that role.

 

How often did I think I had that nasty heavy killed just to be shot repeatedly to death by one of these siblings.

It just isn't a frontline heavy and arty loves it.

Lol what? 



vasilinhorulezz #4 Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:44 PM

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I thought it will come with the STB-Leo changes.

SilentFear #5 Posted 13 June 2019 - 07:45 PM

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View PostXandania, on 13 June 2019 - 06:13 PM, said:

Well, it is a support/2nd line heavy - but as its autoloading brothers at tier 8 and 9 it is quite good in that role.

 

How often did I think I had that nasty heavy killed just to be shot repeatedly to death by one of these siblings.

It just isn't a frontline heavy and arty loves it.

 

30b is the medium.

50b is the autoloader.

 

And yes the 30b has been junk from the moment they introduced it.



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If they do they cannot ignore the CDC. They don't want to buff the CDC because everybody who is not driving a CDC (the majority of players) loves to target them.. ;)

ExclamationMark #7 Posted 13 June 2019 - 08:22 PM

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when 430u gets buffed XAXAXA

Japualtah #8 Posted 13 June 2019 - 08:23 PM

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Well deserved buff for the 30B.

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View PostE_nom1ne, on 13 June 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

Please, dear WG, answer me. AMX 30B ever will get buff???

 



ValkyrionX #10 Posted 13 June 2019 - 09:54 PM

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Im waiting too for amx30b buf..like is4..121..t110e5..etc etc 

arthurwellsley #11 Posted 13 June 2019 - 10:04 PM

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View PostE_nom1ne, on 13 June 2019 - 05:56 PM, said:

Please, dear WG, answer me. AMX 30B ever will get buff??? I invested so much time on that line, and if that tank will remain so weak  forever... i will have no other choise and have to find another game, that will not make my time pointless... :(  I just want to know is there any hope for this line  or not ?

 

The 30B and 30B 1er Prototype both got re-balanced on 29th August 2017 in patch 9.20 (allegedly buffs, if you do not like it now think what it was like before this) =

AMX 30 1er prototype:

  • Decreased dispersion during movement with the AMX 30 1er prototype suspension by 11%.
  • Decreased dispersion during movement with the AMX 30 A pré-série suspension by 12%.
  • Decreased dispersion on hull traverse with the AMX 30 1er prototype suspension by 11%.
  • Decreased dispersion on hull traverse with the AMX 30 A pré-série suspension by 12%.
  • Changed dispersion of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 A pré-série turret from 0.33 m to 0.37 m.
  • Changed dispersion of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 1er prototype turret from 0.34 m to 0.38 m.
  • Decreased dispersion on turret traverse of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 A pré-série turret by 40%.
  • Decreased dispersion on turret traverse of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 1er prototype turret by 30%.
  • Changed the reload time of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 A pré-série turret from 9.9 s to 8.7 s.
  • Changed the reload time of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 1er prototype turret from 10.2 s to 9 s.
  • Improved armor protection of the turrets.
  • Changed penetration of the OFL-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun from 260 mm to 248 mm.
  • Changed penetration of the OCC-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun from 320 mm to 300 mm.

AMX 30 B:

  • Decreased dispersion during movement with the AMX 30 B suspension by 25%.
  • Decreased dispersion on hull traverse with the AMX 30 B suspension by 25%.
  • Changed dispersion of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun from 0.3 m to 0.36 m.
  • Decreased dispersion on turret traverse of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun by 33%.
  • Changed the reload time of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 B turret from 8.9 s to 7.8 s.
  • Changed the aiming time of the 105 mm mle. F1 gun for the AMX 30 B turret from 2.1 s to 2 s.
  • Improved turret armor.
  • Changed penetration of the OCC-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun from 320 mm to 300 mm.
  • Changed penetration of the OFL-105-F1 shell for the 105 mm mle. F1 gun from 260 mm to 248 mm.

 

source = https://worldoftanks...te-920-release/



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View PostSTRANGE_BREW1, on 13 June 2019 - 06:28 PM, said:

Lol what? 

 

View PostSilentFear, on 13 June 2019 - 06:45 PM, said:

 

30b is the medium.

50b is the autoloader.

 

And yes the 30b has been junk from the moment they introduced it.

 

Oops - serves me right for drinking earlier than usual...

vasilinhorulezz #13 Posted 14 June 2019 - 03:39 PM

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View PostExclamationMark, on 13 June 2019 - 08:22 PM, said:

when 430u gets buffed XAXAXA

 

Actually, a 430U buff is more likely :P.

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View Postvasilinhorulezz, on 13 June 2019 - 06:44 PM, said:

I thought it will come with the STB-Leo changes.

 

It was and then they decided to change their minds for some reason. 

 

It actually looked all right from the proposed changes. 



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Japualtah #16 Posted 17 June 2019 - 05:59 PM

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The 30 is actually much better than the 30B, it's almost as if they could swap them and adapt the DPM.

Nilegah #17 Posted 21 June 2019 - 12:35 AM

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BUFF the AMX 30B Wargaming!!!! Its just stupide bad.... and nerf the 430u as you suggested if you want to keep us playing this game. 

Cpt_Vuulnyth #18 Posted 23 June 2019 - 02:40 AM

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Actually,i will not blame Wargaming for not buffing this tank nor do i agree with them not buffing it.I just want to know clearly if they are going to buff it or not.

All of this happened in the making of current update.

They begin saying that they will buff amx ALONGSIDE the other mediums.They put a pretty little summary of the tanks that are being buffed and nerfed.There is the STB-1 ,the Leopard 1 and the AMX 30B and thank god,the obj 430U is getting nerfed.

Then they do another iteration of the super test saying that they'd like to do a little more testing and are good with the change of the amx 30 b and will keep them as such.In the process they said to us that 430 is not broken and will not get nerfed(even though that tells the opposite since we now know this tank can bounce nerf aswell as shells).

Common tests arrives,amx 30 b has disappeared.No communication about this,nothing.

Update hits public server,amx 30 b has been forgoten into oblivion,it's like this tank never existed xd.

 

What i'm angry about is that Wargaming don't know how to communicate.

They would say something like ,'oh,sorry,amx 30 b is ok,git gud' ,i'd be like :"ok,whatever,i can unninstall this game and go peacefully"

 

But no,we don't know.They say one thing and do another and then they forget about it.

 

PROFFESSIONAL COMPANY BEHAVIOR

But don't worry wargaming guys,we didn't excpected less than that from you.All of us long time players know how you treat your community.

As i love this game,i'd be happy if it was to be managed by others than Sergei Sergeyovski and Ivan Cykablyatski.

But since this will not happen,i'd rather see this game die.

 

 

 



Dava_117 #19 Posted 23 June 2019 - 06:21 AM

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View PostCpt_Vuulnyth, on 23 June 2019 - 02:40 AM, said:

Actually,i will not blame Wargaming for not buffing this tank nor do i agree with them not buffing it.I just want to know clearly if they are going to buff it or not.

All of this happened in the making of current update.

They begin saying that they will buff amx ALONGSIDE the other mediums.They put a pretty little summary of the tanks that are being buffed and nerfed.There is the STB-1 ,the Leopard 1 and the AMX 30B and thank god,the obj 430U is getting nerfed.

Then they do another iteration of the super test saying that they'd like to do a little more testing and are good with the change of the amx 30 b and will keep them as such.In the process they said to us that 430 is not broken and will not get nerfed(even though that tells the opposite since we now know this tank can bounce nerf aswell as shells).

Common tests arrives,amx 30 b has disappeared.No communication about this,nothing.

Update hits public server,amx 30 b has been forgoten into oblivion,it's like this tank never existed xd.

 

What i'm angry about is that Wargaming don't know how to communicate.

They would say something like ,'oh,sorry,amx 30 b is ok,git gud' ,i'd be like :"ok,whatever,i can unninstall this game and go peacefully"

 

But no,we don't know.They say one thing and do another and then they forget about it.

 

PROFFESSIONAL COMPANY BEHAVIOR

But don't worry wargaming guys,we didn't excpected less than that from you.All of us long time players know how you treat your community.

As i love this game,i'd be happy if it was to be managed by others than Sergei Sergeyovski and Ivan Cykablyatski.

But since this will not happen,i'd rather see this game die.

 

 

 

 

But they clearly stated, after the first supertest iteration, that they needed more testing for 30B and that nerfs to 430 and 430U were cancelled.

And to be fair, there are tanks that far more need a rebalance, like IS-4, so WG delaying 30B rebalance is not a problem IMO.



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Atleast they remembered that 30B line does exist in game. We cannot say the same thing about 121 line.





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